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BOEING377 February 8th 05 11:17 PM

Morrow SSSB-150... how to program this xcvr?
 
I bought n old Morrow SSSB-150 39 ch. synth HF marine radio and wonder if
anyone has info on how to program it. Is this rig from the company in Oregon
that made the early ham mobile gear and later got into Lorans? Never saw any
Morrow marine HF radios before this one. Thanks, Mark

Me February 9th 05 06:38 PM

In article ,
(BOEING377) wrote:

I bought n old Morrow SSSB-150 39 ch. synth HF marine radio and wonder if
anyone has info on how to program it. Is this rig from the company in Oregon
that made the early ham mobile gear and later got into Lorans? Never saw any
Morrow marine HF radios before this one. Thanks, Mark


I haven't seen one of those things in 20 years. Very rudimentry SSB
Radio, that had a bunch of flaws. Peter Hopp was one of the designers
of that thing, before he left Morrow, and went to SEA, and learned how
to design Marine Radios the right way. Don't load the Tx up to max
or the Amp will melt down, right in front of you.

Good Luck finding any doc's for that thing. They didn't make very many
of them. Less than 200, if I recall.

Me

Doug February 10th 05 12:44 AM


"BOEING377" wrote in message
...
I bought n old Morrow SSSB-150 39 ch. synth HF marine radio and wonder if
anyone has info on how to program it. Is this rig from the company in

Oregon
that made the early ham mobile gear and later got into Lorans? Never saw

any
Morrow marine HF radios before this one. Thanks, Mark


Frequency stability was only +/- 1 PPM. Not legal these days.

73
Doug K7ABX



Doug February 10th 05 12:45 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "BOEING377"
Newsgroups: rec.boats.electronics
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:17 PM
Subject: Morrow SSSB-150... how to program this xcvr?


I bought n old Morrow SSSB-150 39 ch. synth HF marine radio and wonder if
anyone has info on how to program it. Is this rig from the company in

Oregon
that made the early ham mobile gear and later got into Lorans? Never saw

any
Morrow marine HF radios before this one. Thanks, Mark


I blew the dust off the shops old Morrow notebooks and found a "service"
manual for this radio. It is poor quality Xerox at best with schematics. I
haven't had time to review it in depth, but all I found in a fast scan
regarding programming was a list of HF SSB stations that looks way, way out
of date.
Yes, it was the original Morrow Company who made it, now part of ArNav I
think. IIMorrow came about later by the sons of the Morrow founder. The
were bought out by United Parcel Systems after a lot of money thrown away
trying to produce ACSSB commercially. Remember when US hams lost most of 220
MHz to that fiasco? Anyway, UPS uses the former IIMorrow to make GPS
tracking systems for their fleet and I believe the aviation part has since
been acquired by Garmin. At least some warranty for Garmin goes to Salem, OR
for aviation stuff.

Doug K7ABX



Gary Schafer February 10th 05 02:34 AM

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:45:32 GMT, "Doug"
wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "BOEING377"
Newsgroups: rec.boats.electronics
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:17 PM
Subject: Morrow SSSB-150... how to program this xcvr?


I bought n old Morrow SSSB-150 39 ch. synth HF marine radio and wonder if
anyone has info on how to program it. Is this rig from the company in

Oregon
that made the early ham mobile gear and later got into Lorans? Never saw

any
Morrow marine HF radios before this one. Thanks, Mark


I blew the dust off the shops old Morrow notebooks and found a "service"
manual for this radio. It is poor quality Xerox at best with schematics. I
haven't had time to review it in depth, but all I found in a fast scan
regarding programming was a list of HF SSB stations that looks way, way out
of date.
Yes, it was the original Morrow Company who made it, now part of ArNav I
think. IIMorrow came about later by the sons of the Morrow founder. The
were bought out by United Parcel Systems after a lot of money thrown away
trying to produce ACSSB commercially. Remember when US hams lost most of 220
MHz to that fiasco? Anyway, UPS uses the former IIMorrow to make GPS
tracking systems for their fleet and I believe the aviation part has since
been acquired by Garmin. At least some warranty for Garmin goes to Salem, OR
for aviation stuff.

Doug K7ABX


IImorrow started out with loran vehicle location equipment. It kind of
worked.
The ACSB equipment was built by SEA and they were responsible for the
220 band being acquired for it.

Regards
Gary

Gary Schafer February 10th 05 02:35 AM

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:44:06 GMT, "Doug"
wrote:


"BOEING377" wrote in message
...
I bought n old Morrow SSSB-150 39 ch. synth HF marine radio and wonder if
anyone has info on how to program it. Is this rig from the company in

Oregon
that made the early ham mobile gear and later got into Lorans? Never saw

any
Morrow marine HF radios before this one. Thanks, Mark


Frequency stability was only +/- 1 PPM. Not legal these days.

73
Doug K7ABX


What's wrong with 1 ppm?

Regards
Gary

Bruce in Alaska February 10th 05 07:16 PM

In article ,
Gary Schafer wrote:

What's wrong with 1 ppm?

Regards
Gary


1 PPM is 1 Hz/Mhz Figure at 26 Mhz your now at 26 Hz plus or minus
Now the spec for modern MF/HF SSB Commercial Radios is +/- 20 Hz, so
you out of tolerence on frequency.
Not good enough to meet current Type Acceptance Spec's.....


Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

Gary Schafer February 10th 05 07:32 PM

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:16:23 GMT, Bruce in Alaska
wrote:

In article ,
Gary Schafer wrote:

What's wrong with 1 ppm?

Regards
Gary


1 PPM is 1 Hz/Mhz Figure at 26 Mhz your now at 26 Hz plus or minus
Now the spec for modern MF/HF SSB Commercial Radios is +/- 20 Hz, so
you out of tolerence on frequency.
Not good enough to meet current Type Acceptance Spec's.....


Bruce in alaska



Hi Bruce,

Yes I understand the spec. But as far back as I can remember ssb being
used for marine applications the spec has been +- 20 hz. That was even
before synthesizers came to the market.

So I would guess that if the radio was specked at 1 ppm that it
probably did not cover anything above 20 mhz?? Probably only covered
through 16 mhz?

Regards
Gary

Doug February 10th 05 11:17 PM


"Gary Schafer" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:45:32 GMT, "Doug"
wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "BOEING377"
Newsgroups: rec.boats.electronics
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:17 PM
Subject: Morrow SSSB-150... how to program this xcvr?


I bought n old Morrow SSSB-150 39 ch. synth HF marine radio and wonder

if
anyone has info on how to program it. Is this rig from the company in

Oregon
that made the early ham mobile gear and later got into Lorans? Never

saw
any
Morrow marine HF radios before this one. Thanks, Mark


I blew the dust off the shops old Morrow notebooks and found a "service"
manual for this radio. It is poor quality Xerox at best with schematics.

I
haven't had time to review it in depth, but all I found in a fast scan
regarding programming was a list of HF SSB stations that looks way, way

out
of date.
Yes, it was the original Morrow Company who made it, now part of ArNav I
think. IIMorrow came about later by the sons of the Morrow founder. The
were bought out by United Parcel Systems after a lot of money thrown away
trying to produce ACSSB commercially. Remember when US hams lost most of

220
MHz to that fiasco? Anyway, UPS uses the former IIMorrow to make GPS
tracking systems for their fleet and I believe the aviation part has

since
been acquired by Garmin. At least some warranty for Garmin goes to Salem,

OR
for aviation stuff.

Doug K7ABX


IImorrow started out with loran vehicle location equipment. It kind of
worked.
The ACSB equipment was built by SEA and they were responsible for the
220 band being acquired for it.

Regards
Gary


I have no recall of SEA being in the ACSSB push, but know for a fact
IIMorrow was, and ran employment ads every few months in the Portland
"Oregonian" for ACSSB engineers and technicians until shortly after UPS
acquired them. I know, as I submitted my resume in the late 80s. Perhaps
Bruce can address SEA involvement. I seem to recall IIMorrow was a
petitioner to the FCC for the 220 MHz frequency allocation which claimed it
was an unused amateur band in the Oregon area. In their area, back in the
50s and possibly even early 60s, 220 MHZ was unuseable due to military
preemptive use for the old old Nike missile system used to defend
metropolitan areas. The long since closed Camp Adair SAGE site and Mt Hebo
radar site were part of that system in the area.

73
Doug, K7ABX



Jetcap February 11th 05 12:41 PM

Larry W4CSC wrote:

I just put 220.350 Mhz into the FCC Search engine and got:



What do you find when you put in BUTLER, LARRY

Bwahahahahahaha

Rick


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