"Jetcap" wrote in message
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Doug Dotson wrote:

Sorry Rick. You'll have to do better than that.

It appears that older restricted permits are not listed. I will concede
that Larry may hold an old restricted radiotelephone ticket, one of those
licenses far easier to obtain than the "giveaway" GROL or GMDSS tickets he
was sneering at before he got caught lying about his own license level.

I'm not really sure why the Restriced Permit even exists other than for
the FCC to make money. There are no qualifications, no callsign, no
anything. They make sure the price stays indexed to inflation though.
Mine cost $10 back in 1970, my wife's cost $40 4 years ago. Most
folks I know don't even bother to get one.

"Better" than what? Larry is the one trashing a lot of good people who
actually hold the licenses he says are useless while he claims to hold
tickets he doesn't. He is a fraud, a ham who is bent and bitter that no
one will let him play radio operator outside his closet.

I seem to recall have to do a fair amount of studying to get my ham, GROL,
and GMDSS tickets. I certainly wouldn't call them giveaways.

Rick

Doug Dotson wrote:

I seem to recall have to do a fair amount of studying to get my ham, GROL,
and GMDSS tickets. I certainly wouldn't call them giveaways.

Few of us who hold them do. Larry, on the other hand, who does not hold
anything other than a ham ticket and as he claimed today, a restricted
operator's permit, has spent considerable time trashing those who do. He
is the one who called them "giveaways" not me.

I am just on his case for his false claims and his bizarre attacks on
those who actually hold the tickets he claimed.

If he holds them all he has to do is post the numbers ... otherwise it
proves he is a fraud.

Rick

In article ,
Larry W4CSC wrote:

Bruce Gordon wrote in news:bruceg-
:

Actually you have been able to contact Bridge Tenders on Channel 13
(the Navigation Channel) for MANY years, but a few years back, the FCC
and USCG decided to move those Comms to Channel 9, when they designated
that Channel as a Secondary Calling Channel in the Maritime Mobile Radio
Service. This was advised, so as to free up Channel 13 for strictly
Bridge to Bridge Radio Traffic.


Me


ALL bridges in South Carolina monitor Channel NINE.

By "Bridge to Bridge Radio Traffic", I hope you mean ship bridges, not car-
train bridges....(c;



Yes, I do mean "Bridge to Bridge" Radio traffic as in Bridge to Bridge
Act, which is now Subpart U of Part 90 47CFR.

Bruce in alaska
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In article ,
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

was sneering at before he got caught lying about his own license level.

I'm not really sure why the Restriced Permit even exists other than for
the FCC to make money. There are no qualifications, no callsign, no
anything. They make sure the price stays indexed to inflation though.
Mine cost $10 back in 1970, my wife's cost $40 4 years ago. Most
folks I know don't even bother to get one.

They exist because it is a requirment of the International Radio Treaties
that the US is signitory to. All radio operations that are, or could be
international in nature, are required to be made by LICENSED Radio
Operators from LICENSED Radio Stations. Therefor, if you sail or fly
internationally, you MUST have a vaild Station License, and Operators
License issued by the Government of your vessels or aircrafts Flag.
I have assisted many pilots and skippers navigate the FLS of our FCC, to
secure the appropriate licenses for international operations. These
folks actually PAY me, to help them obtain the licensing that they need.
I also do licensing consulating for Part 90, Part 87, Part 80, and Part
22 operations.


Bruce in alaska used to be a FED and that helps a lot........
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In article ,
Larry W4CSC wrote:

I've never seen anyone killed by 150W from these little transmitters.
1.5KW from a ham rig is another matter...(c;

Maybe not killed, but RF Burns were very common when the RF Grounding
System wasn't big enough to support the transmitter.


Bruce in alaska
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"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

was sneering at before he got caught lying about his own license level.

I'm not really sure why the Restriced Permit even exists other than for
the FCC to make money. There are no qualifications, no callsign, no
anything. They make sure the price stays indexed to inflation though.
Mine cost $10 back in 1970, my wife's cost $40 4 years ago. Most
folks I know don't even bother to get one.

They exist because it is a requirment of the International Radio Treaties
that the US is signitory to. All radio operations that are, or could be
international in nature, are required to be made by LICENSED Radio
Operators from LICENSED Radio Stations. Therefor, if you sail or fly
internationally, you MUST have a vaild Station License, and Operators
License issued by the Government of your vessels or aircrafts Flag.

So it is international mumbo-jumbo. Station license makes sense. A license
with no means of identification (ie. callsign) isn;t worth much. Perhaps
the ITU will eliminate it like the Morse Code requirement.

I have assisted many pilots and skippers navigate the FLS of our FCC, to
secure the appropriate licenses for international operations. These
folks actually PAY me, to help them obtain the licensing that they need.
I also do licensing consulating for Part 90, Part 87, Part 80, and Part
22 operations.

Hummmnmnmnn. Perhaps being smart enough to navigate FLS should be
a prerequisite to getting a license. Kind of like a basic intelligence test
:)


Bruce in alaska used to be a FED and that helps a lot........
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First please note I tried to reply to this article via email but the
address made it impossible. Please give a pointer to
your actual email in your sig if nothing else such as the one in mine
below.

Since you didn't I guess I"ll put my asbestos suit on and take the
flames for waht I'm about to post. I can always ignore those without
real points to make other than flamage.

On 2005-02-03 said:
"What rank are you?", some CAP wannabee colonel would ask me in my
Levis and T-shirt, all setup in the pouring down rain to provide
4585 Khz and 148.15 comms in my non-CAP-funded motorhome when some
plane was down. "Corporal", I'd always reply. "Who cares? We've
been here for 3 hours. Why did it take you Wing guys so long to
get here?" The guy could have died while waiting for them to put
on their dress blues to look sharp for the TV cams.
snippage
If anyone needs emergency comms
on any freq between 1.8 and 30.0 Mhz, I can provide
CW/AM/SSB/packet/AMTOR-SITOR/PSK16-31 and RTTY with 650 watts of HF
RF power to an omnidirectional large, erectable anywhere antenna
with 3KW of emergency AC power in my old Air Force stepvan any time
it's needed. The system can also provide VHF to VHF to HF packet
gateway service as well as dual-band APRS inband and crossband
repeater service. I can provide phone patch service if there's a
live phone line available. If Knology Cable is available, I can
also provide gateway service to the internet. Give me a couple
hours notice and point me to the spot to set up. I'll be there....
just so long as I don't have to wear some silly wannabe uniform and
play soldier.
Ditto! I tried to interest branches of the military in my services
when I was 18 (height of the vietnam war when many of my generation
were carrying signs instead) and was told, hey you're a blind man we
don't need you!!!

A local hospital which is the go-to resource for most of the city of
NEw Orleans appreciates what I can offer. I have 24/7 access to the
station at the hospital for the reason that I've spent years training
to handle such emergencies and can make sure the station is on the air
and ready to provide them disaster comms when the need arises.

What blows me away is all the wanna be ops that show up, handheld on
each hip with their uniforms and their badges. MEanwhile they're
using jargon that folks not in their particular service can understand
and don't have the first clue how to really communicate to get the
message across. I can communicate when using voice in such a manner
that you'll be able to get the message written down for passing to the
appropriate people without asking me for a bunch of repeats. YEt the
wanna be ops don't want to take part in any meaningful training.

I can sho up with my van, two portable masts giving you comms anywhere
from 3.5 megs to 450 megs. My xyl is also a licensed ham.

I spend time as a net manager for two networks handling written
traffic through ham radio as well as a net control on the maritime
mobile service net. I'm not interested in all the rah rah, just
getting communications handled for those in need when they need us. I
take the part of the rules which says ham radio consists of a trained
pool of volunteer radio communicators quite seriously. I get bugged
at those who want to show off but don't want to train. Without the
training you're next to useless when the stuff hits the fan.

Btw I believe training is something anybody should do on a regular
basis. Just as musicians should rehearse and athletes who are part of
a team should practice emergency communicators should train regularly
to keep their skills sharp.

73 de nf5b



Richard Webb, amateur radio callsign nf5b
active on the Maritime Mobile service network, 14.300 mhz
REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email

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wrote:

First please note I tried to reply to this article via email but the
address made it impossible. Please give a pointer to
your actual email in your sig if nothing else such as the one in mine
below.

Since you didn't I guess I"ll put my asbestos suit on and take the
flames for waht I'm about to post. I can always ignore those without
real points to make other than flamage.

snipped for brevity


73 de nf5b



Richard Webb, amateur radio callsign nf5b
active on the Maritime Mobile service network, 14.300 mhz
REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email

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Oh, Hmmm, Ahhhhh, I see, Just another my Pee pee is bigger than your
Pee Pee, Na na na na nana naw.......


Me

Bruce in Alaska wrote in news:bruceg-
:


Maybe not killed, but RF Burns were very common when the RF Grounding
System wasn't big enough to support the transmitter.


Bruce in alaska

When I was a MINELANT, we had a problem with the old, wooden minesweepers
that had URC-32, 500W transmitters on them. A sailor was burned quite
badly in his hands when he came in contact between two sections of well-
grounded handrail from the RF induced. The handrail sections had separate
ground paths to ship's ground. They checked out the grounding and it was
all intact and the electricians tasked with the problem were scratching
their heads as to how he could have gotten zapped.

AS 1/4 wavelength back from ship's ground was a virtual open, and that
ground strap, itself, were part of the "handrail antenna", I had a lot of
convincing to them that this was the problem. The two lengths of ground
straps were different, so one hand rail was at a different RF potential
than the other when the transmitter was keyed up.

To satisfy both DC grounding requirements and to stop the RF buildup on the
components, I convinced them to put RF chokes in series with the ground
straps at the handrail end, eliminating the big vertical antenna of the
strap across the wooden hull. Worked great, on all frequencies.

On fiberglass flybridges, all those cables under the helm exposed to the RF
from a nearby HF antenna and its tuner can create havoc to the NMEA network
and everything attached to it. I found one boat where the panel lighting
would glow when the HF transmitter was on the 4 Mhz band as the wiring
resonated just right.

Of course, if the manufacturers would use NMEA's BALANCED specifications,
instead of hooking between one leg of the balanced system and ground for
their NMEA in/out connections, they could help stop the intrusion of RF
into the system in the first place. The "ground" wire hooked to the boat's
battery negative is a great HF antenna up on the flybridge end....

Bruce in Alaska wrote in
:


Yes, I do mean "Bridge to Bridge" Radio traffic as in Bridge to Bridge
Act, which is now Subpart U of Part 90 47CFR.

Bruce in alaska

Now, if we could only get some ENFORCEMENT to run the MARINAS off the only
pleasure boat to pleasure boat channel.....(sigh)