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John Proctor January 6th 05 08:10 PM

Non-mechanical Wind Transducers
 
I thought I'd ask the group for any experiences with non-mechanical (no
bearings, roating cups etc) wind transducers. The technology seems
reasonably well established (ultrasonic, heated wire etc) in commercial
and military applications and there are a couple of ones with NMEA
output as well as one with Seatalk as an output option. Has anyone had
any experience good, bad or indifferent with them and are there any
reliability issues with them?

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall


Gerard van Toornenberg. January 6th 05 08:43 PM

Where to see the Seatalk one option?

Gerard

"John Proctor" schreef in bericht
news:2005010707100416807%lost@nowhereorg...
I thought I'd ask the group for any experiences with non-mechanical (no
bearings, roating cups etc) wind transducers. The technology seems
reasonably well established (ultrasonic, heated wire etc) in commercial and
military applications and there are a couple of ones with NMEA output as
well as one with Seatalk as an output option. Has anyone had any experience
good, bad or indifferent with them and are there any reliability issues
with them?

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall




Doug Dotson January 7th 05 03:13 AM

Raymarine makes one. I assume it speaks SeaTalk.

"Gerard van Toornenberg." wrote in message
...
Where to see the Seatalk one option?

Gerard

"John Proctor" schreef in bericht
news:2005010707100416807%lost@nowhereorg...
I thought I'd ask the group for any experiences with non-mechanical (no
bearings, roating cups etc) wind transducers. The technology seems
reasonably well established (ultrasonic, heated wire etc) in commercial
and military applications and there are a couple of ones with NMEA output
as well as one with Seatalk as an output option. Has anyone had any
experience good, bad or indifferent with them and are there any
reliability issues with them?

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall






John Proctor January 7th 05 09:58 AM

On 2005-01-07 07:43:12 +1100, "Gerard van Toornenberg."
said:

Where to see the Seatalk one option?

Gerard

"John Proctor" schreef in bericht
news:2005010707100416807%lost@nowhereorg...
I thought I'd ask the group for any experiences with non-mechanical (no
bearings, roating cups etc) wind transducers. The technology seems
reasonably well established (ultrasonic, heated wire etc) in commercial
and military applications and there are a couple of ones with NMEA
output as well as one with Seatalk as an output option. Has anyone had
any experience good, bad or indifferent with them and are there any
reliability issues with them?

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall


I don't know that Raymarine makes one. But Ocean Radio has one that
purports to have a ST option. Look at this URL:

http://www.radio-ocean.com/pdf/rowind/nc_ROWind_a.PDF


--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall


TomS January 7th 05 03:44 PM


"John Proctor" wrote in message
news:2005010720584116807%lost@nowhereorg...
On 2005-01-07 07:43:12 +1100, "Gerard van Toornenberg."
said:

Where to see the Seatalk one option?

Gerard

"John Proctor" schreef in bericht
news:2005010707100416807%lost@nowhereorg...
I thought I'd ask the group for any experiences with non-mechanical (no
bearings, roating cups etc) wind transducers. The technology seems
reasonably well established (ultrasonic, heated wire etc) in commercial
and military applications and there are a couple of ones with NMEA
output as well as one with Seatalk as an output option. Has anyone had
any experience good, bad or indifferent with them and are there any
reliability issues with them?

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall


I don't know that Raymarine makes one. But Ocean Radio has one that
purports to have a ST option. Look at this URL:

http://www.radio-ocean.com/pdf/rowind/nc_ROWind_a.PDF


--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall


I have no real experience with them, but here are some thoughts about them
(in sailboat use).
-The technique seems to be where we are heading in the future. No movig or
wearing parts.
-On ships and in weather stations etc. this technique has been used for some
time.
-The ROWind would be very hard to calibrate when connected to most
instrument systems. One would have to go up in the mast and rotate the
transducer to get the thing calibrated.
-Most advanced (I don's know any that wouldn't) instrumet systems needs
propriatery wind transducers in order to be able to calibarte them from the
display. Also I do not know what
would happend to the true wind, one would probaly not get that.

Regards,
TomS



Doug Dotson January 7th 05 06:01 PM

Raytheon offered one when I ordered my last set of instruments about
5 years ago. That was when I worked for Raytheon before they
became Raymarine though.

Doug
s/v Callista

"John Proctor" wrote in message
news:2005010720584116807%lost@nowhereorg...
On 2005-01-07 07:43:12 +1100, "Gerard van Toornenberg."
said:

Where to see the Seatalk one option?

Gerard

"John Proctor" schreef in bericht
news:2005010707100416807%lost@nowhereorg...
I thought I'd ask the group for any experiences with non-mechanical (no
bearings, roating cups etc) wind transducers. The technology seems
reasonably well established (ultrasonic, heated wire etc) in commercial
and military applications and there are a couple of ones with NMEA
output as well as one with Seatalk as an output option. Has anyone had
any experience good, bad or indifferent with them and are there any
reliability issues with them?

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall


I don't know that Raymarine makes one. But Ocean Radio has one that
purports to have a ST option. Look at this URL:

http://www.radio-ocean.com/pdf/rowind/nc_ROWind_a.PDF


--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall




Gerard van Toornenberg. January 7th 05 06:37 PM

I know only the standard one in top of your mast or the rotavectra more or
less used by motor boaters.

Gerard

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom schreef in bericht
...
Raytheon offered one when I ordered my last set of instruments about
5 years ago. That was when I worked for Raytheon before they
became Raymarine though.

Doug
s/v Callista

"John Proctor" wrote in message
news:2005010720584116807%lost@nowhereorg...
On 2005-01-07 07:43:12 +1100, "Gerard van Toornenberg."
said:

Where to see the Seatalk one option?

Gerard

"John Proctor" schreef in bericht
news:2005010707100416807%lost@nowhereorg...
I thought I'd ask the group for any experiences with non-mechanical (no
bearings, roating cups etc) wind transducers. The technology seems
reasonably well established (ultrasonic, heated wire etc) in commercial
and military applications and there are a couple of ones with NMEA
output as well as one with Seatalk as an output option. Has anyone had
any experience good, bad or indifferent with them and are there any
reliability issues with them?

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall


I don't know that Raymarine makes one. But Ocean Radio has one that
purports to have a ST option. Look at this URL:

http://www.radio-ocean.com/pdf/rowind/nc_ROWind_a.PDF


--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall






Doug Dotson January 8th 05 12:27 AM

OK? I've seen both used on both. What's your point?

"Gerard van Toornenberg." wrote in message
...
I know only the standard one in top of your mast or the rotavectra more or
less used by motor boaters.

Gerard

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom schreef in bericht
...
Raytheon offered one when I ordered my last set of instruments about
5 years ago. That was when I worked for Raytheon before they
became Raymarine though.

Doug
s/v Callista

"John Proctor" wrote in message
news:2005010720584116807%lost@nowhereorg...
On 2005-01-07 07:43:12 +1100, "Gerard van Toornenberg."
said:

Where to see the Seatalk one option?

Gerard

"John Proctor" schreef in bericht
news:2005010707100416807%lost@nowhereorg...
I thought I'd ask the group for any experiences with non-mechanical
(no bearings, roating cups etc) wind transducers. The technology seems
reasonably well established (ultrasonic, heated wire etc) in
commercial and military applications and there are a couple of ones
with NMEA output as well as one with Seatalk as an output option. Has
anyone had any experience good, bad or indifferent with them and are
there any reliability issues with them?

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall

I don't know that Raymarine makes one. But Ocean Radio has one that
purports to have a ST option. Look at this URL:

http://www.radio-ocean.com/pdf/rowind/nc_ROWind_a.PDF


--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall








Gerard van Toornenberg. January 8th 05 01:16 AM

Have Raymarine also a Non-mechanical Wind Transducer?

Gerard

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom schreef in bericht
...
OK? I've seen both used on both. What's your point?

"Gerard van Toornenberg." wrote in message
...
I know only the standard one in top of your mast or the rotavectra more or
less used by motor boaters.

Gerard

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom schreef in bericht
...
Raytheon offered one when I ordered my last set of instruments about
5 years ago. That was when I worked for Raytheon before they
became Raymarine though.

Doug
s/v Callista

"John Proctor" wrote in message
news:2005010720584116807%lost@nowhereorg...
On 2005-01-07 07:43:12 +1100, "Gerard van Toornenberg."
said:

Where to see the Seatalk one option?

Gerard

"John Proctor" schreef in bericht
news:2005010707100416807%lost@nowhereorg...
I thought I'd ask the group for any experiences with non-mechanical
(no bearings, roating cups etc) wind transducers. The technology
seems reasonably well established (ultrasonic, heated wire etc) in
commercial and military applications and there are a couple of ones
with NMEA output as well as one with Seatalk as an output option. Has
anyone had any experience good, bad or indifferent with them and are
there any reliability issues with them?

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall

I don't know that Raymarine makes one. But Ocean Radio has one that
purports to have a ST option. Look at this URL:

http://www.radio-ocean.com/pdf/rowind/nc_ROWind_a.PDF


--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall










Doug Dotson January 8th 05 01:46 AM

Yes!

"Gerard van Toornenberg." wrote in message
...
Have Raymarine also a Non-mechanical Wind Transducer?

Gerard

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom schreef in bericht
...
OK? I've seen both used on both. What's your point?

"Gerard van Toornenberg." wrote in
message ...
I know only the standard one in top of your mast or the rotavectra more
or less used by motor boaters.

Gerard

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom schreef in bericht
...
Raytheon offered one when I ordered my last set of instruments about
5 years ago. That was when I worked for Raytheon before they
became Raymarine though.

Doug
s/v Callista

"John Proctor" wrote in message
news:2005010720584116807%lost@nowhereorg...
On 2005-01-07 07:43:12 +1100, "Gerard van Toornenberg."
said:

Where to see the Seatalk one option?

Gerard

"John Proctor" schreef in bericht
news:2005010707100416807%lost@nowhereorg...
I thought I'd ask the group for any experiences with non-mechanical
(no bearings, roating cups etc) wind transducers. The technology
seems reasonably well established (ultrasonic, heated wire etc) in
commercial and military applications and there are a couple of ones
with NMEA output as well as one with Seatalk as an output option.
Has anyone had any experience good, bad or indifferent with them and
are there any reliability issues with them?

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall

I don't know that Raymarine makes one. But Ocean Radio has one that
purports to have a ST option. Look at this URL:

http://www.radio-ocean.com/pdf/rowind/nc_ROWind_a.PDF


--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall













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