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How tom make the electronics EMP-proof ???
You know, the stupid French may test a nuclear weapon again and the
EMP may destroy my boat's electronics. So it's better to make the electronics EMP-proof. How can I do this? |
vacuum tubes, your only hope.
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Karl-Hugo Weesberg wrote:
You know, the stupid French may test a nuclear weapon again and the EMP may destroy my boat's electronics. So it's better to make the electronics EMP-proof. How can I do this? If your boat is close enough to be affected by the EMP, I feel fairly confident you will NOT have a boat to go back to. -Jim |
"Jim" wrote in message ...
If your boat is close enough to be affected by the EMP, I feel fairly confident you will NOT have a boat to go back to. Sure you have. If a moderate (what is that anyway) nuclear bomb explodes at high altitude, say 30km, there will be hardly any physical damage on the ground, but in a radius of about 1000km, all electronics will be destroyed because of an EMP. Meindert |
The French can't possibly be contemplating an above ground explosion??
That's against international treaties and would spark a lot of outrage. If you have a below ground test, say 1km down, will EMP be a problem? It seems to me that most discussion around EMP is related to wartime above ground explosions. In that situation most of us will have other worries. "Meindert Sprang" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... If your boat is close enough to be affected by the EMP, I feel fairly confident you will NOT have a boat to go back to. Sure you have. If a moderate (what is that anyway) nuclear bomb explodes at high altitude, say 30km, there will be hardly any physical damage on the ground, but in a radius of about 1000km, all electronics will be destroyed because of an EMP. Meindert |
In article wsvgd.21579$VA5.4785@clgrps13,
"Gordon Wedman" wrote: It seems to me that most discussion around EMP is related to wartime above ground explosions. In that situation most of us will have other worries. Wait a minute here, there have been only Three Wartime Nuke explosions in history, and they were in August 1945, and the original Nevada Test. EMP wasn't discovered untill the first Hydrogen Bomb tests in the South Pacific, years later. Let us get our FACTS Straight before we go around expounding our expertiese........ Me |
"Gordon Wedman" wrote in message news:wsvgd.21579$VA5.4785@clgrps13... The French can't possibly be contemplating an above ground explosion?? That's against international treaties and would spark a lot of outrage. Since when have the French worried about international treaties or opinion if it interfered with their wishes. Didn't they sink a Green Peace boat in New Zealand killing a crew member so that it wouldn't protest an H bomb test. I will assume that there was sarcasm in your post and that I was too dense to see it. Rob |
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:54:46 GMT, Me wrote:
EMP wasn't discovered untill the first Hydrogen Bomb tests in the South Pacific, years later. ========================= More precisely, it wasn't discovered until after the first high altitude tests in 1962. The tests caused scattered power outages in Hawaii 800 miles away. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Rob wrote: "Gordon Wedman" wrote in message news:wsvgd.21579$VA5.4785@clgrps13... The French can't possibly be contemplating an above ground explosion?? That's against international treaties and would spark a lot of outrage. Since when have the French worried about international treaties or opinion if it interfered with their wishes. Why single the French out? Since 2001, the US has broken or extricated itself from one treaty after another. Well, it's difficult to extricate one's country from a morass of stupidity in one action; we have to whittle away the crap one treaty at a time. And if the French are offended, well, they know how to shrug, eh? Ed |
"Ed Price" wrote Well, it's difficult to extricate one's country from a morass of stupidity in one action; we have to whittle away the crap one treaty at a time. And if the French are offended, well, they know how to shrug, eh? French set new security-level: HIDE French security conditions (lowest to highest risk): 1. Hide 2. Retreat 3. Surrender 4. Collaborate Jack |
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:13:12 -0700, Ed Price wrote:
....snip I suppose we should just trust him. Last time I trusted Democrats, I got the Bay of Pigs and Viet Nam. Ed wb6wsn Hi Ed, I'm not a Democrat, but it seems like the last one we elected gave us 8 years of economic prosperity and eliminated deficit spending. I don't think one can use such a broad brush. No flame. -- Larry email is rapp at lmr dot com 10/31/04 10:12:49 AM |
"Larry" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:13:12 -0700, Ed Price wrote: ...snip I suppose we should just trust him. Last time I trusted Democrats, I got the Bay of Pigs and Viet Nam. Ed wb6wsn Hi Ed, I'm not a Democrat, but it seems like the last one we elected gave us 8 years of economic prosperity and eliminated deficit spending. I don't think one can use such a broad brush. No flame. -- Larry email is rapp at lmr dot com 10/31/04 10:12:49 AM No flame taken. Just a little reminder to those whose memories are about as long as a fruit fly. I'm not too fond of either candidate, and even less fond of the two major parties. But I think Bush's judgmental mistakes pale in comparison to Kerry's prevarications; the last Kerry quote I heard was a promise to hunt down and punish terrorists. Who's gonna do that, how they gonna get there, and what effect would they have, if we had followed Kerry's Senatorial voting record opposing almost all military systems? Finally, a President doesn't "give" us an economy, at least not for a few years. Our system is so ponderous that it's not very responsive to legislative tinkering. I used to think that was a fault, but considering the agendas of each administration, I now think it's a blessing. Ed wb6wsn |
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:20:32 -0800, Ed Price wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:13:12 -0700, Ed Price wrote: ...snip I suppose we should just trust him. Last time I trusted Democrats, I got the Bay of Pigs and Viet Nam. Ed wb6wsn Hi Ed, I'm not a Democrat, but it seems like the last one we elected gave us 8 years of economic prosperity and eliminated deficit spending. I don't think one can use such a broad brush. No flame. -- Larry email is rapp at lmr dot com 10/31/04 10:12:49 AM No flame taken. Just a little reminder to those whose memories are about as long as a fruit fly. I'm not too fond of either candidate, and even less fond of the two major parties. But I think Bush's judgmental mistakes pale in comparison to Kerry's prevarications; the last Kerry quote I heard was a promise to hunt down and punish terrorists. Who's gonna do that, how they gonna get there, and what effect would they have, if we had followed Kerry's Senatorial voting record opposing almost all military systems? Finally, a President doesn't "give" us an economy, at least not for a few years. Our system is so ponderous that it's not very responsive to legislative tinkering. I used to think that was a fault, but considering the agendas of each administration, I now think it's a blessing. Ed wb6wsn We certainly agree on both candidates. Personally, I'm quite disappointed that McCain didn't make it. Regarding Kerry's Senate voting record - I hate to be seen as supporting the guy, but it certainly appears that he felt that supporting those major weapons systems would do little against the enemy we now face. Frankly, the only logical way to get those guys is with "boots on the ground" and a greatly improved intelligence community. I realize that the economy was not a direct result of 8 years of Clinton - in fact, it probably had more to do with Greenspan than Clinton, but it did occur under Clinton's watch. And certainly one can't argue that he eliminated deficit spending, although he certainly wasn't the sole cause. Perhaps the best solution is when one party controls the Congress and the other controls the Presidency. This has been a pet theory of mine for years. In such a situation, there is more than the usual amount of conflict and little gets done. By and large, that seems to be a good thing! There is less special interest legislation and what gets passed is scrutinized more carefully. It's hard to characterize the Democrats as "tax and spend" and the Republicans as "fiscally conservative" when you look at the last four years. -- Larry W1HJF email is rapp at lmr dot com 11/01/04 9:57:07 AM |
"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:1JRgd.86645$kz3.26082@fed1read02... Oil is damn important to the American economy. Oil is damn important to a lot of other country's economies. (Think Japan in 1941.) As long as people like Sadaam can influence how many grannies freeze to death in Buffalo this winter, we have a right to influence the future of people like Sadaam. Okay, I think I get the picture here. So, following the same line: when your local supermarket stops supplying a certain product you want, it gives you the right to arrest the manager and kill some employees along the way as collateral damage...... Meindert |
Also Sprach Meindert Sprang :
Okay, I think I get the picture here. So, following the same line: when your local supermarket stops supplying a certain product you want, it gives you the right to arrest the manager and kill some employees along the way as collateral damage...... Also, Legolas and The Hulk beat the **** out of the entire Greek army. That would have been a much better movie. Dan -- War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left. |
"Meindert Sprang" wrote in message ... "Ed Price" wrote in message news:1JRgd.86645$kz3.26082@fed1read02... Oil is damn important to the American economy. Oil is damn important to a lot of other country's economies. (Think Japan in 1941.) As long as people like Sadaam can influence how many grannies freeze to death in Buffalo this winter, we have a right to influence the future of people like Sadaam. Okay, I think I get the picture here. So, following the same line: when your local supermarket stops supplying a certain product you want, it gives you the right to arrest the manager and kill some employees along the way as collateral damage...... Meindert Yeah Meindert, so long as you can equate a local supermarket with OPEC. You're not that dumb, so I must assume mendacity. Ed wb6wsn |
"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:iZ5id.91450$kz3.52094@fed1read02... Yeah Meindert, so long as you can equate a local supermarket with OPEC. You're not that dumb, so I must assume mendacity. I still believe there is a huge difference between dealing with the oil problem through OPEC and invading a country for false reasons. If a country is lacking resources, it should either get them elsewhere in a legitimate way or do something about it's demand. Just invading a country that has these resources and killing people along the way is, in my opinion, an act of war for which I can have no sympathy. Meindert |
In article ws8id.46270$_g6.39467@okepread03,
"Jack Painter" wrote: The only land the United States has ever asked for from countries we liberated was enough room to bury our dead. Not quite true here Jackieboy.... what about the Phillipines, Cuba, Italy, Germany, We got bases in all those countrys AFTER "Liberating them"...... Me History is a double edged Sword....... |
"Meindert Sprang" wrote in message
... So where the US. See http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm Meindert |
wrote "Jack Painter" wrote: The only land the United States has ever asked for from countries we liberated was enough room to bury our dead. Not quite true here Jackieboy.... what about the Phillipines, Cuba, Italy, Germany, We got bases in all those countrys AFTER "Liberating them"...... Me History is a double edged Sword....... Dear no-such-person, hiding behind a phony address and name: "got bases" is a little broad a term for the very different reasons we lease property from those countries today. Most were enemies conquered in world or regional wars, and once housed occupying armies (and Navies). Another was a possession that had nothing to do with liberation, there was never a country there. It is of course a free and sovereign country now, thanks only to the efforts of the United States. A double edged sword to you would be the pencil you once take exams with, it's obvious you poked yourself in the eye more than scored with it. Jack Painter Virginia Beach VA |
"Meindert Sprang" wrote in message ... "Meindert Sprang" wrote in message ... So where the US. See http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm Meindert Hi Meindert, that isn't news, that has been widely known and accepted since it was conceived. How is it perplexing to you that a country would support the enemies of their enemies? I once lived in Germany as an exchange student, and traveled all over Europe many times since. I have never met a European so utterly daft about all things political as you. And this from a supposedly educated engineer, although that could be an improper title for your education, I'm having doubts now. You're not on a fast track to win friends and influence Americans, I can assure you. Whether that is a concern of yours or not, it is my goal to expose idiots wherever they crawl out from when they insult my country and my government. Especially when spouting off from a country my Father and Great Grandfather defeated in two world wars. I will add for the enjoyment of the group (and to stay on topic), that my Father, having fought across most of France and Germany also, later commented that after knowing both, he thought we were "fighting the wrong people". Jack Painter Virginia Beach VA |
"Jack Painter" wrote in message
news:Subid.38689$G15.13798@fed1read03... I have never met a European so utterly daft about all things political as you. My political opinion is just different than yours. Why can't you live with that without starting to call me daft? And this from a supposedly educated engineer, although that could be an improper title for your education, I'm having doubts now. What do my engineering skills and education have to do with my political opinion? You're not on a fast track to win friends and influence Americans, I can assure you. My experience with many happy customers tell me otherwise. Whether that is a concern of yours or not, it is my goal to expose idiots wherever they crawl out from when they insult my country and my government. Especially when spouting off from a country my Father and Great Grandfather defeated in two world wars. I will add for the enjoyment of the group (and to stay on topic), that my Father, having fought across most of France and Germany also, later commented that after knowing both, he thought we were "fighting the wrong people". Not that excuse again. Does the fact that the US helped us in the past automatically mean that we should agree with all decisions made by the US governement afterwards? Let's end this pointless discussion Jack. We both have different views and opinions, let us just respect that fact. Meindert |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Today George W. Bush made a very compelling and thoughtful argument for why he should not be reelected. In his own words, he told the American people that "...a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your Commander-in-Chief." And he got in anyway, with an even bigger majority. |
"Meindert Sprang" wrote Let's end this pointless discussion Jack. We both have different views and opinions, let us just respect that fact. Meindert, we both share interests in marine electronics and engineering, where I would gladly limit our discussions. And you would be welcome to visit my home if you ever stop in the Norfolk VA area. Best regards, Jack |
Its beyond all logical explanation as to why he got re-elected.
"BrianR" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Today George W. Bush made a very compelling and thoughtful argument for why he should not be reelected. In his own words, he told the American people that "...a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your Commander-in-Chief." And he got in anyway, with an even bigger majority. |
"Jack Painter" wrote in message
news:YGuid.2$uT4.1@lakeread03... Meindert, we both share interests in marine electronics and engineering, where I would gladly limit our discussions. And you would be welcome to visit my home if you ever stop in the Norfolk VA area. Thanks for the invitation Jack. I'll definately keep that in mind whenever the occasion. Best regards, Meindert |
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