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Terry C September 16th 04 12:24 AM

Second the 182C. Bought mine new through ebay for tremendous discount and
have had great luck with it. One comment - go color.
T

"Tamaroak" wrote in message
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Garmin 182C. Best customer service you'll ever find. Buy them on eBay.

Capt. Jeff




Jack Erbes September 16th 04 02:09 AM

Bobsprit wrote:

Northstar.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"


Junk.
Go Garmin, who sets the pace for marine units.

RB


Northstar is junk? Let me guess, you own a Garmin and have never used a
Northstar, right?

Jack

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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jacker at midmaine dot com

Doug Dotson September 16th 04 02:58 AM

I find the Navman as easy to use as the Gamin.

Doug
s/v CAllista

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Northstar.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"


Junk.
Go Garmin, who sets the pace for marine units.

RB




Bobsprit September 16th 04 11:16 AM

Northstar is junk? Let me guess, you own a Garmin and have never used a
Northstar, right?


Wrong! Here's a review:

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Northstar...splay_~reviews

Meanwhile, my buddy's P39 had a color version with a screen that lost pixles.
ZERO support from company.
Always buy products with good support.

RB

Sailman September 16th 04 03:20 PM

Your epinions link is a data point of one. That's not very
compelling.

I have a 951 and 6000i. Both work flawlessly. I have spoken with
customer support re. upgrades, and they have been very responsive.

Do a little more homework before you bash a company.


(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
Northstar is junk? Let me guess, you own a Garmin and have never used a
Northstar, right?


Wrong! Here's a review:

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Northstar...splay_~reviews

Meanwhile, my buddy's P39 had a color version with a screen that lost pixles.
ZERO support from company.
Always buy products with good support.

RB


Doug September 16th 04 08:20 PM

Do you have any timeline on the Garmin Radar/XM radio link?
I am aware in their avionics products line that the XM link is used to
display radar NexRad info about every 5 mins. Also, Jeppesen, a major
aviation navigation charting firm, is supposedly going to market a predicted
radar display along route of travel for up to 4 hours in advance. Probably
won't migrate to the boating community very soon, if ever.
Doug K7ABX


"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:58:02 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

I find the Navman as easy to use as the Gamin.

Doug
s/v CAllista

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Northstar.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"


Junk.
Go Garmin, who sets the pace for marine units.

RB



I was considering the Navman before I purchased my Garmin 182C. The
Garmin charts seemed a bit better and the display is certainly better.

I was wondering what Brunswick was going to do with Navman since they
now own the company. Perhaps "SeaRay" brand navigation equipment
instead of RayMarine in their boats.

BTW, Garmin is coming out with Radar and an XM or similar radio function
that will be able to show weather maps right on the chartplotter.

This sounds very interesting.




Jack Erbes September 16th 04 08:35 PM

Bobsprit wrote:

Northstar is junk? Let me guess, you own a Garmin and have never used a
Northstar, right?


Wrong! Here's a review:

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Northstar...splay_~reviews

Meanwhile, my buddy's P39 had a color version with a screen that lost pixles.
ZERO support from company.
Always buy products with good support.


I've made two delivery trips (two days on the water for each) between
Maine and the Cape Cod area using Northstars and never saw one fog up.

In fact, I have never had a single complaint or problem in using them
and have not heard anyone else mention the fogging issue or complain
about anything else.

If you buddy mailed his warranty card and was still in the two year
window, Northstar would have worked on it for him. That requires the
unit to be sent in to them (in Acton, Mass., also quite close to that
purportedly troublesome Cape Cod Bay area). Their service center has a
good reputation for both professionalism and turnaround.

I know for a fact that Northstar (and Garmin too) consider bad pixels to
be covered under their two year warranties.

All in all, I don't find all the specifics in that review to be
believable.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jacker at midmaine dot com

Jack Erbes September 16th 04 08:51 PM

WaIIy wrote:

snip
BTW, Garmin is coming out with Radar and an XM or similar radio function
that will be able to show weather maps right on the chartplotter.

This sounds very interesting.



Yep,

Some details are here http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap3006c/
and here http://www.garmin.com/marinenetworking/.

I love looking at the electronic toys, and these look like nice ones.

I am wondering about their "proprietary ethernet-based network" though.
It seems like being able to have a PC on that network too would be a
nice to have feature and I don't see one there yet. PC's in one form or
another are more common on boats all the time.

Both Furuno and Raymarine networks will include a PC, I'm thinking
Garmin will get one into the picture eventually. Or did I miss it already?

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jacker at midmaine dot com

SAIL LOCO September 17th 04 02:10 AM

Readers should be aware that "Bobsprit" better known on other newsgroups as
"The Boob", "Boobsprit" and "Boob****" among other "handles knows nothing about
boats or boating equipment. The Boob's boat is old and loaded with antiquated
equipment therefore he spends his lonely days and nights attempting to bash
other people stuff.
Most consider Northstar chartplotters as the standard all others are compared
to.
I've owned a 951XD and now own a 952XDW and I've never experienced any type
of fogging. The units are waterproof!


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Doug Dotson September 17th 04 03:43 AM

Doesn't Garmin use CMAP cartridges?

Doug
s/v Callista

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:58:02 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

I find the Navman as easy to use as the Gamin.

Doug
s/v CAllista

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Northstar.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"


Junk.
Go Garmin, who sets the pace for marine units.

RB



I was considering the Navman before I purchased my Garmin 182C. The
Garmin charts seemed a bit better and the display is certainly better.

I was wondering what Brunswick was going to do with Navman since they
now own the company. Perhaps "SeaRay" brand navigation equipment
instead of RayMarine in their boats.

BTW, Garmin is coming out with Radar and an XM or similar radio function
that will be able to show weather maps right on the chartplotter.

This sounds very interesting.





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