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Steve August 12th 04 03:53 AM

Alternative 192kHz transducers
 
I need a new through hull transducer (as in "though a hole in the hull"
rather than glued to the inside of the hull) for an Lowrance X-65 fish
finder. It is a 192kHz system. Does anyone know if there is a
alternative supplier of these other than Lowrance? I don't mind changing
connectors if it saves me a few bucks.

Cheers,

Steve


Vaughan Henderson August 25th 04 09:43 AM

Hi Steve,

Can't help you with a through-hull transducer but do have a few new
192kHz ones intended for installation inside the hull.

Regards Vaughan

Steve August 25th 04 11:41 PM

Vaughan,

What brand are they? Is that the "shoot though hull" type. My boat is
ferro and I seem to remember reading somewhere that these don't work on
ferro. Or am I wrong?

Thanks for the reply,

Steve

Vaughan Henderson wrote:

Hi Steve,

Can't help you with a through-hull transducer but do have a few new
192kHz ones intended for installation inside the hull.

Regards Vaughan


Lisa Collins August 26th 04 09:08 PM

If you have any kind of metal hull, a shoot through the hull type of
transducer will not work. You would have to go with either a transom
mount transducer or a in hull transducer. Most of the 192 kHZ transducers
we stock utilize a 20 degree cone. We have a few 192kHZ tranducers that
utilize the smaller 8 degree cone.

Also if you use a through hull transducer and your boat is capable of high
speed i.e. planing type of hull or you have more than 10 degrees of dead
rise you typically need a fairing block.

For hulls made of steel or aluminum the safest bet is a plastic transducer.
This solution avoids the typical electrolysis problems.

Regards,
Lisa
www.ultimatepassage.com



Steve wrote:

Vaughan,

What brand are they? Is that the "shoot though hull" type. My boat is
ferro and I seem to remember reading somewhere that these don't work on
ferro. Or am I wrong?

Thanks for the reply,

Steve

Vaughan Henderson wrote:

Hi Steve,

Can't help you with a through-hull transducer but do have a few new
192kHz ones intended for installation inside the hull.

Regards Vaughan



Stephen Scheiding August 27th 04 06:55 AM

glass hulls are the only ones that i've heard are able to mount the
xduser an inside bubble. for a source of xdusers, try airmar. most of
the brands get theirs from airmar,

http://www.airmar.com/

steve scheiding


Lisa Collins wrote:

If you have any kind of metal hull, a shoot through the hull type of
transducer will not work. You would have to go with either a transom
mount transducer or a in hull transducer. Most of the 192 kHZ transducers
we stock utilize a 20 degree cone. We have a few 192kHZ tranducers that
utilize the smaller 8 degree cone.

Also if you use a through hull transducer and your boat is capable of high
speed i.e. planing type of hull or you have more than 10 degrees of dead
rise you typically need a fairing block.

For hulls made of steel or aluminum the safest bet is a plastic transducer.
This solution avoids the typical electrolysis problems.

Regards,
Lisa
www.ultimatepassage.com



Steve wrote:

Vaughan,

What brand are they? Is that the "shoot though hull" type. My boat is
ferro and I seem to remember reading somewhere that these don't work on
ferro. Or am I wrong?

Thanks for the reply,

Steve

Vaughan Henderson wrote:

Hi Steve,

Can't help you with a through-hull transducer but do have a few new
192kHz ones intended for installation inside the hull.

Regards Vaughan




Doug September 1st 04 06:11 PM

AirMar through the hulls will work with some metal hulls. They gave
presentations at Furuno, Raymarine and Northstar service seminars. What was
interesting was that in some cases thicker aluminum hull material was better
than thinner metal. I suggest you check AirMar literature regarding what
metals work and recommended thickness for through the hull ducers.
Doug K7ABX

"Lisa Collins" wrote in message
...
If you have any kind of metal hull, a shoot through the hull type of
transducer will not work. You would have to go with either a transom
mount transducer or a in hull transducer. Most of the 192 kHZ transducers
we stock utilize a 20 degree cone. We have a few 192kHZ tranducers that
utilize the smaller 8 degree cone.

Also if you use a through hull transducer and your boat is capable of high
speed i.e. planing type of hull or you have more than 10 degrees of dead
rise you typically need a fairing block.

For hulls made of steel or aluminum the safest bet is a plastic

transducer.
This solution avoids the typical electrolysis problems.

Regards,
Lisa
www.ultimatepassage.com



Steve wrote:

Vaughan,

What brand are they? Is that the "shoot though hull" type. My boat is
ferro and I seem to remember reading somewhere that these don't work on
ferro. Or am I wrong?

Thanks for the reply,

Steve

Vaughan Henderson wrote:

Hi Steve,

Can't help you with a through-hull transducer but do have a few new
192kHz ones intended for installation inside the hull.

Regards Vaughan





Bruce in Alaska September 2nd 04 03:57 AM

In article t,
"Doug" wrote:

AirMar through the hulls will work with some metal hulls. They gave
presentations at Furuno, Raymarine and Northstar service seminars. What was
interesting was that in some cases thicker aluminum hull material was better
than thinner metal. I suggest you check AirMar literature regarding what
metals work and recommended thickness for through the hull ducers.
Doug K7ABX


When I worked at Northern Radio in Seattle, (30 years ago) I worked on a
DE in Todd Shipyard that used a Hydrolic Ram to shock the Hull and make
it ring at the designed frequency of the sonar. Totally Mechanical Sonar
Transmitter and very sensitive Receiving Transducers. They figured that
the transmit power was in the hundreds of KWs and you really couldn't
sleep when it was active, because the whole hull was vibrating at the
resonate frequency.

Bruce in alaska
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Steve September 2nd 04 11:24 AM

How cool is that! Pneumatic drill on the hull as a transmitter for me then.

Nice one.

Bruce in Alaska wrote:
In article t,
"Doug" wrote:


AirMar through the hulls will work with some metal hulls. They gave
presentations at Furuno, Raymarine and Northstar service seminars. What was
interesting was that in some cases thicker aluminum hull material was better
than thinner metal. I suggest you check AirMar literature regarding what
metals work and recommended thickness for through the hull ducers.
Doug K7ABX



When I worked at Northern Radio in Seattle, (30 years ago) I worked on a
DE in Todd Shipyard that used a Hydrolic Ram to shock the Hull and make
it ring at the designed frequency of the sonar. Totally Mechanical Sonar
Transmitter and very sensitive Receiving Transducers. They figured that
the transmit power was in the hundreds of KWs and you really couldn't
sleep when it was active, because the whole hull was vibrating at the
resonate frequency.

Bruce in alaska




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