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Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
I tried to install MaxSea 10.3.2.1 on a new laptop with W7 Home
Premium. Installation went fine but it won't run. Anybody here who found a solution? Regards, Len. |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 764-bit?
Len wrote:
I tried to install MaxSea 10.3.2.1 on a new laptop with W7 Home Premium. Installation went fine but it won't run. Anybody here who found a solution? Regards, Len. Right-click the icon, and (always) run as administrator. Might work..... |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
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Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT), Len
wrote: I tried to install MaxSea 10.3.2.1 on a new laptop with W7 Home Premium. Installation went fine but it won't run. Anybody here who found a solution? Regards, Len. Yes, I've installed MaxSea 10 - something ion Windows 7 on a desktop (test) and two laptops. An Eee-900 and a Lenovo (don't remember the version) Work fine. The only "modification" I made was to set the program to run in Windows XP mode. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 03:46:23 +0000, Larry wrote:
Len wrote in news:de4faa89-476d-416c-87b8- : I tried to install MaxSea 10.3.2.1 on a new laptop with W7 Home Premium. Installation went fine but it won't run. Anybody here who found a solution? Regards, Len. Why in hell would anyone buy a new 64-bit Win7 laptop to replace a perfectly-good-working WinXP (or whatever it was) laptop that MaxSea 10.3.2.1 ran perfectly under? Is there a motive I missed?? Hot damned. you must be some sort of an old Fuddy-Duddy. Don't you want to be updated to the latest thing (:-?) Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
Bruce wrote in
: Hot damned. you must be some sort of an old Fuddy-Duddy. Don't you want to be updated to the latest thing (:-?) Not if it means losing valid navigation that's working..... I am an old Fuddy Duddy, however....but no iPhone/pad/pod/touch or anything else controlled by someone else. Too bad the softwares are for WinXP, not Ubuntu Linux. -- Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics. Larry |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:07:10 +0000, Larry wrote:
Bruce wrote in : Hot damned. you must be some sort of an old Fuddy-Duddy. Don't you want to be updated to the latest thing (:-?) Not if it means losing valid navigation that's working..... I am an old Fuddy Duddy, however....but no iPhone/pad/pod/touch or anything else controlled by someone else. No hand phone, or just the old "number's only" cell phone? Too bad the softwares are for WinXP, not Ubuntu Linux. You could try setting up a virtual system - I think Ubuntu can do that, or running it under Wine, although I don't know about Wine and USB ports. I do run Forte Agent in a Wine window and have for several years now,with no problems. Other then the initial Wine installation which sometimes seems to be successful and at other times not for some unexplainable reason, having to do with gecko I think. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
Bruce wrote in
: No hand phone, or just the old "number's only" cell phone? USA nationwide service on Verizon Wireless' most complete system, the best of the best in the USA..... 50 cents per month user fee + 3.6 cents per minute ($US2.16/hour) prepaid on MVNO system of Pageplus Cellular. No $4000 phone bills, no bogus fees and charges noone can explain, no Verizon wienies lying to you every time they open their mouths. NOONE beats Pageplus for service and price point. http://www.pagepluscellular.com/ The numbers on this website need to be updated. It used to cost us 5.3c/min, but $80 PINs now get you 2000 minutes for about $72 with the discounts Callingmart gives us so the price numbers on the webpage are too high but the concept works great: http://nordicgroup.us/prepaid/pageplus.html We must buy "something", even if it's only a $10 payment, within 120 days of the last entry. It's as simple as entering the PIN number we get from Callingmart.com. We can buy PINs at big discounts when Callingmart has a sale, then store the PIN on Callingmart until our next 120 days is up....or....you can store the PIN up to a year on Callingmart's account to use any time you like. Noone here beats the price point. Verizon has the finest coverage of any carrier in the USA and Pageplus uses the same system across the country. Yep...."just the old "number's only" cell phone". That's me. No monthly bill....NO FUNNY BUSINESS....No giving back minutes every month you don't use, which is crazy. Last month's cellular service cost me less than $11US -- Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics. Larry |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 02:00:06 +0000, Larry wrote:
Bruce wrote in : No hand phone, or just the old "number's only" cell phone? USA nationwide service on Verizon Wireless' most complete system, the best of the best in the USA..... 50 cents per month user fee + 3.6 cents per minute ($US2.16/hour) prepaid on MVNO system of Pageplus Cellular. No $4000 phone bills, no bogus fees and charges noone can explain, no Verizon wienies lying to you every time they open their mouths. NOONE beats Pageplus for service and price point. http://www.pagepluscellular.com/ The numbers on this website need to be updated. It used to cost us 5.3c/min, but $80 PINs now get you 2000 minutes for about $72 with the discounts Callingmart gives us so the price numbers on the webpage are too high but the concept works great: http://nordicgroup.us/prepaid/pageplus.html We must buy "something", even if it's only a $10 payment, within 120 days of the last entry. It's as simple as entering the PIN number we get from Callingmart.com. We can buy PINs at big discounts when Callingmart has a sale, then store the PIN on Callingmart until our next 120 days is up....or....you can store the PIN up to a year on Callingmart's account to use any time you like. Noone here beats the price point. Verizon has the finest coverage of any carrier in the USA and Pageplus uses the same system across the country. Yep...."just the old "number's only" cell phone". That's me. No monthly bill....NO FUNNY BUSINESS....No giving back minutes every month you don't use, which is crazy. Last month's cellular service cost me less than $11US You are right down to what us benighted 3rd world residents pay. I use prepaid refills - the most popular phone scheme in Thailand, and it seldom costs me US$ 12.00 a month. Usually a bit less. And I can travel anywhere in the country and the cost per minute is the same. No long distance changes. Actually, a hand phone is cheaper then a land line as the land line charges long distance charges for anywhere outside your local area. New Subject: Am in the process of making a wi-fi "dual quad" antenna, two diamond shaped lobes with the feed line and ground connected at each side at the center.. . My question is if the actual shape of the lobes is critical, assuming that the length of the loop is correct. In other words, if it were two triangles instead of two squares would it make a measurable difference? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
Bruce wrote in
: Am in the process of making a wi-fi "dual quad" antenna, two diamond shaped lobes with the feed line and ground connected at each side at the center.. . My question is if the actual shape of the lobes is critical, assuming that the length of the loop is correct. In other words, if it were two triangles instead of two squares would it make a measurable difference? Wrong thinking. The quad has side and rear reception. Unless you live in a totally rural (in Bangkok??!! HA!!) area with no other interfering signals, your enemy is other stations getting into your receiver, crashing with your packets coming from the node. Quads are for HF, maybe VHF to 150 Mhz as I had dual 2 meter quads up for years. Wifi is a microwave band where microwave antennas are king. Waveguide antennas are far better than any quad at 2.4Ghz. The N band at 5.5 Ghz is even worse. Every time someone within 5 miles lights off a 2.450 Ghz leaky microwave oven, your signal is trashed. Build one of these for almost nothing: http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html Look at the various designs and note the gain and interference figures. That quad would be 10 meters long in a tin shed to even come close to a good Pringle's can with the internal flatwasher tuning to set its bandwidth for only this band. We're building this one: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/448 His gain measurements are very close to our observations: Here were the average received signal and noise readings from each, in roughly the same position: Antenna Signal Noise 10db A: -83db -92db 10db B: -83db -92db 11db: -82db -95db 24db: -67db -102db Pringles can (shotgun): -78db -99db Pringles can (internal): -81db -98db Here's your other enemy: "The test partner (AP side) signal results were virtually the same. Interestingly, even at only 0.6 mile, we saw some thermal fade effect; as the evening turned into night, we saw about 3db gain across the board (it had been a particularly hot day: almost 100 degrees. I don't know what the relative humidity was, but it felt fairly dry.)" That quad would have to be a thousand metres in the air to keep from seeing the hot buildings and parking lots around it. Night shots are much less noisy. At 2.4Ghz, the thermal noise is a killer. Two 12db Pringles cans like his will connect up in flat terrain about 4 km, reliably, if there are no obstructions. Mountain top to mountain top, 10 km is easy, maybe 15 km is possible. It's about 1.5km between my public hotspot with a 3db omnidirectional antenna running 200mw ERP up 10 meters inside an inverted plastic bucket to keep the rain off my router on Channel 6, to the Pringle's antennas on top of the enlisted barracks at the Air Force Base. Except in rain storms, which suck up 2.4Ghz like a carbon sponge, the boys have a nicely usable signal over that path. There isn't much interference because I'm across the street from the base and the Air Force doesn't trust wifi for its own stuff, of course, so that keeps them off the air. Works great...(c;] -- Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics. Larry |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:55:43 +0000, Larry wrote:
Bruce wrote in : Am in the process of making a wi-fi "dual quad" antenna, two diamond shaped lobes with the feed line and ground connected at each side at the center.. . My question is if the actual shape of the lobes is critical, assuming that the length of the loop is correct. In other words, if it were two triangles instead of two squares would it make a measurable difference? Wrong thinking. The quad has side and rear reception. Unless you live in a totally rural (in Bangkok??!! HA!!) area with no other interfering signals, your enemy is other stations getting into your receiver, crashing with your packets coming from the node. Quads are for HF, maybe VHF to 150 Mhz as I had dual 2 meter quads up for years. Wifi is a microwave band where microwave antennas are king. Waveguide antennas are far better than any quad at 2.4Ghz. The N band at 5.5 Ghz is even worse. Every time someone within 5 miles lights off a 2.450 Ghz leaky microwave oven, your signal is trashed. Build one of these for almost nothing: http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html Look at the various designs and note the gain and interference figures. That quad would be 10 meters long in a tin shed to even come close to a good Pringle's can with the internal flatwasher tuning to set its bandwidth for only this band. We're building this one: r His gain measurements are very close to our observations: Here were the average received signal and noise readings from each, in roughly the same position: Antenna Signal Noise 10db A: -83db -92db 10db B: -83db -92db 11db: -82db -95db 24db: -67db -102db Pringles can (shotgun): -78db -99db Pringles can (internal): -81db -98db Here's your other enemy: "The test partner (AP side) signal results were virtually the same. Interestingly, even at only 0.6 mile, we saw some thermal fade effect; as the evening turned into night, we saw about 3db gain across the board (it had been a particularly hot day: almost 100 degrees. I don't know what the relative humidity was, but it felt fairly dry.)" That quad would have to be a thousand metres in the air to keep from seeing the hot buildings and parking lots around it. Night shots are much less noisy. At 2.4Ghz, the thermal noise is a killer. Two 12db Pringles cans like his will connect up in flat terrain about 4 km, reliably, if there are no obstructions. Mountain top to mountain top, 10 km is easy, maybe 15 km is possible. It's about 1.5km between my public hotspot with a 3db omnidirectional antenna running 200mw ERP up 10 meters inside an inverted plastic bucket to keep the rain off my router on Channel 6, to the Pringle's antennas on top of the enlisted barracks at the Air Force Base. Except in rain storms, which suck up 2.4Ghz like a carbon sponge, the boys have a nicely usable signal over that path. There isn't much interference because I'm across the street from the base and the Air Force doesn't trust wifi for its own stuff, of course, so that keeps them off the air. Works great...(c;] Interesting. The "double quad's all use a reflector which greatly attenuates interference from the back side of the antenna. What I'll do is build one of each and see :-) Thanks for the idea. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
Bruce wrote in
: What I'll do is build one of each and see :-) Thanks for the idea. Cheers, Screwing around with wifi is almost as much fun as ham radio used to be.... (c;] They used to make an aluminium dish for the kids to slide downhill in the snow called a snow coaster. It had two handles to hang onto and was relatively concave shaped until it hit its first good rock. We've acquired a good one, nearly unused. If you lean it against something on the lee side of the internally-antenna'd netbook, you can move the netbook around while watching the signal level to find where the signal reflects off the metre-wide aluminum dish as a reflector, concentrating the signal from a distant hotspot into the behind-the-screen wifi antennas. Even if it didn't work so great, and it does, the looks you get from passersby more than make up for any deficiencies in RF effects....(c;] Maybe the passersby have noticed the CIA official logo we put on the back of it and think we're government spies....hee hee. -- Religion is to reality what homeopathy is to medical science. Larry |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 01:07:36 +0000, Larry wrote:
Bruce wrote in : What I'll do is build one of each and see :-) Thanks for the idea. Cheers, Screwing around with wifi is almost as much fun as ham radio used to be.... (c;] They used to make an aluminium dish for the kids to slide downhill in the snow called a snow coaster. It had two handles to hang onto and was relatively concave shaped until it hit its first good rock. We've acquired a good one, nearly unused. If you lean it against something on the lee side of the internally-antenna'd netbook, you can move the netbook around while watching the signal level to find where the signal reflects off the metre-wide aluminum dish as a reflector, concentrating the signal from a distant hotspot into the behind-the-screen wifi antennas. Even if it didn't work so great, and it does, the looks you get from passersby more than make up for any deficiencies in RF effects....(c;] Maybe the passersby have noticed the CIA official logo we put on the back of it and think we're government spies....hee hee. Over here you just go down to the market and buy a "wok". I have no idea what the largest size made is but a 26 incher is right off the shelf. Works a treat but my wife doesn't think that they create a suitable ambience hanging on the living room wall :-) Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 7 64-bit?
Bruce wrote in
: Over here you just go down to the market and buy a "wok". I have no idea what the largest size made is but a 26 incher is right off the shelf. Works a treat but my wife doesn't think that they create a suitable ambience hanging on the living room wall :-) What could be more beautiful than a microwave dish pointed at a really nice, really fast wifi hotspot? If you want to fool around with a wok, point it at the sun and take a piece of paper and find its focal length, where the sun focuses and burns a hole in the paper. Sorta measure the distance from the center of the wok to the paper (without burning your fingers, please). At that distance from the wok, which we may assume is sort of a truncated sphere, point the open end of the pringle's cantenna into it and rig up a coathanger wire mount to hold the pringle's cantenna in position, running the coax up the vertical wire to the top of the dish before routing it away to the computer. This increases the capture area from the hole in the end of the pringle's can to an effective hole the size of the outer diameter of the wok, the bigger the better. It's NOT a good idea to point this beast at any nearby wifi radiating transmitters as it may blow the receiver front end out of the computer. Don't blame me, in other words. This is a powerful antenna, now, and you wifi transmitter has now become nearly a ray gun. I'm not sure how much gain that would have but I'd bet it would be in the 30db area. The pringles cantenna is narrow enough that it would receive very little back radiation from around the edges of the dish, so if the dish is kept in the shade, not in the sun cooking eggs, the thermal noise floor would be quite deep, increasing its effectiveness even more. Now you've got a small S-band point-to- point microwave antenna any woman should be proud to display to her astonished friends on the couch....(c;] Try not to burn any holes in the wall or irradiate the neighbors' kids. -- Religion is to reality what homeopathy is to medical science. Larry |
Anybody here who has MaxSea 10.3.2.1 working under Windows 764-bit?
On 2 jun, 00:46, Larry wrote:
Len wrote in news:de4faa89-476d-416c-87b8- : I tried to install MaxSea 10.3.2.1 on a new laptop with W7 Home Premium. Installation went fine but it won't run. Anybody here who found a solution? Regards, Len. Why in hell would anyone buy a new 64-bit Win7 laptop to replace a perfectly-good-working WinXP (or whatever it was) laptop that MaxSea 10.3.2.1 ran perfectly under? Is there a motive I missed?? Larry, It's just a simple story about a laptop reaching the end of its technical lifetime... After the screen quit I used a stand alone screen on the vga output. After the CPU fan began screeming I carefully greased the bearings. After the keyboard started to give in I replaced that. They are quite standard, I noticed. After random stopping and complete and spontaneous restarting I started to think about a new one. I now invested 599 dollars in a blazingly fast laptop with a super 16:9 screen that hopefully will last again for 6-7 years... The only problem was this Windows 7 not running my MaxSea. In the mean time I discovered that MaxSea 10.3.2.1 does run under Windows 7 Starter Edition without doing or changing anything. Virtual PC solved my problem under Windows 7 Home Premium. For those who are interested: Virtual PC runs on all W7 platforms, excluding the most basic one. There is no need to upgrade to Pro or Ultimate or whatever, even if Microsoft says so. The proof is on my table... Regards, Len. |
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