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Modifying Icom IC-M800
Jack Painter wrote:
Larry, all I could find was information regarding compulsory GMDSS ships. Is there a listing you are aware of for voluntary-equipped GMDSS? HF is the issue, of course ;-) Unless Larry holds, and is required to hold, a current USCG license as a merchant marine officer with an STCW certificate endorsed as a radio operator he only holds the GMDSS tickets for ego purposes. No one else needs one unless they work for a shorebased maintenance firm doing work on GMDSS equipment on ships. He obviously doesn't understand the GMDSS system concept and is posting nonsense. If you want reliable information that applies to you and your particular circumstances just Google "gmdss voluntary station operator license" There are plenty of pages. Here is a link that pretty much states what Larry would have known if he had any training and held the license for anything other than some kind of redneck ham radio bragging rights: http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/gmdss/cvib-2.doc Training, Licensing and Certification The Master and all Mates on SOLAS vessels are now required to hold the FCC GMDSS Radio Operator?s License (GOC) for Sea Areas A2, A3 (Inmarsat coverage), and A4 (polar regions) or the Restricted GMDSS Radio Operator?s License (ROC) for operations in Sea Area A1. They must also hold a Coast Guard STCW 95 GMDSS endorsement. The STCW endorsement requires mandatory training and demonstrated ability to operate all GMDSS systems. Most small commercial vessels are not required to be STCW compliant, however, and are permitted to use any GMDSS equipment without mandated GMDSS training. Small commercial vessels mandated to carry radio for safety reasons are required to hold a radio station license and the appropriate operator permits. Vessels subject to the Bridge-to-Bridge act are also required to hold a radio station license. Rick |
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Modifying Icom IC-M800
"Rick" wrote If you want reliable information that applies to you and your particular circumstances just Google "gmdss voluntary station operator license" http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/gmdss/cvib-2.doc Thanks. I used the search-engine inside the FCC pages, and it had the same info, except the part about voluntary equipped stations, which we now know is open to any owner/operator etc. Jack |
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Rick wrote in
ink.net: Jack Painter wrote: Larry, all I could find was information regarding compulsory GMDSS ships. Is there a listing you are aware of for voluntary-equipped GMDSS? HF is the issue, of course ;-) Unless Larry holds, and is required to hold, a current USCG license as a merchant marine officer with an STCW certificate endorsed as a radio operator he only holds the GMDSS tickets for ego purposes. No one else needs one unless they work for a shorebased maintenance firm doing work on GMDSS equipment on ships. He obviously doesn't understand the GMDSS system concept and is posting nonsense. You are posting the nonsense. See my other post and READ THE REGS I posted there. You must NOT operate any GMDSS on a LICENSED SHIP STATION until you have the GMDSS Operator's License, even if your boat is a goddamn rowboat! You must also read the regulations to understand that you do NOT have to be a STCW radio operator to be a licensed GMDSS operator. READ THE REGS in references I posted to another responder.....it's all there. The old unionized radio operators are now a dead issue once compulsory ships get rid of their Morse equipment. Most ROs are not being renewed in their cushy union jobs. If you want reliable information that applies to you and your particular circumstances just Google "gmdss voluntary station operator license" There are plenty of pages. Here is a link that pretty much states what Larry would have known if he had any training and held the license for anything other than some kind of redneck ham radio bragging rights: http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/gmdss/cvib-2.doc Training, Licensing and Certification The Master and all Mates on SOLAS vessels are now required to hold the FCC GMDSS Radio Operator?s License (GOC) for Sea Areas A2, A3 (Inmarsat coverage), and A4 (polar regions) or the Restricted GMDSS Radio Operator?s License (ROC) for operations in Sea Area A1. They must also hold a Coast Guard STCW 95 GMDSS endorsement. The STCW endorsement requires mandatory training and demonstrated ability to operate all GMDSS systems. Most small commercial vessels are not required to be STCW compliant, however, and are permitted to use any GMDSS equipment without mandated GMDSS training. Small commercial vessels mandated to carry radio for safety reasons are required to hold a radio station license and the appropriate operator permits. Vessels subject to the Bridge-to-Bridge act are also required to hold a radio station license. Old information. CG has turned GMDSS operator and maintainer licensing over to the FCC. There's a reference to just this point on the FCC webpages I quoted to another responder. Larry |
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Larry W4CSC wrote:
You are posting the nonsense. See my other post and READ THE REGS I posted there. You must NOT operate any GMDSS on a LICENSED SHIP STATION until you have the GMDSS Operator's License, even if your boat is a goddamn rowboat! Sorry, larry, you missed again. Read the regs or talk to a West Marine salesman. They know more than you do. You must also read the regulations to understand that you do NOT have to be a STCW radio operator to be a licensed GMDSS operator. READ THE REGS in references I posted to another responder.....it's all there. If you don't sail as a licensed officer on a ship that requires a GMDSS installation by international treaty and stand a bridge watch, you do not need a GMDSS license. If you want to repair GMDSS equipment you need a maintainer's license. If you are a watchstanding officer who is required by the Coast Guard to hold a GMDSS license you must also have a GMDSS endorsement on your STCW certificate. Any fool can get a GMDSS license, very few NEED one. The old unionized radio operators are now a dead issue once compulsory ships get rid of their Morse equipment. Most ROs are not being renewed in their cushy union jobs. A little bit jealous are you? Old information. CG has turned GMDSS operator and maintainer licensing over to the FCC. There's a reference to just this point on the FCC webpages I quoted to another responder. If you knew anything about GMDSS you would know that the FCC has always handled the licensing. The CG is charge with enforcing the IMO regulations that established the GMDSS requirements for SOLAS vessels. And the FCC still doesn't seem to list you as anything other than a ham radio operator. That would explain why you seem so confused about this issue. Rick |
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Larry W4CSC wrote:
You are posting the nonsense. See my other post and READ THE REGS I posted there. You must NOT operate any GMDSS on a LICENSED SHIP STATION until you have the GMDSS Operator's License, even if your boat is a goddamn rowboat! I did read your posts, Larry ... including the ones where you claimed to have a "DB" license, and how you get all goggle-eyed looking at the "First Class Radiotelephone" license above your desk, and disgusted you are at how easy it is for anyone to get a license these days. You are making your claims in a glass house, Larry. So how come the FCC database that lists all licenses held, operator and station, only lists a ham license when I enter: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...chAdvanced.jsp and type in BUTLER, LARRY E in the name block? That Rick |
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