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Looking for high-end marinised PCs
I was looking for a really good marinised PC. Found one
(http://www.panbo.com/yae/archives/000443.html), but I have the feeling it's very expensive. Although I can't find a pricetag anywhere... Does anyone has any experience with similar products, or may be DIY, that you can share? Tnx, Yme http://www.panbo.com/yae/ |
Looking for high-end marinised PCs
If one must ask the price of any "high-end marinized" product, one
cannot afford its purchase. The incredibly rich who buy them never quibble over a few thousand quid when purchasing the Rolex of computers......(c; Watch your Lexus salespersonae walk off, should you dare ask "How much?" On 8 Mar 2004 08:04:42 -0800, (Yme Bosma) wrote: I was looking for a really good marinised PC. Found one (http://www.panbo.com/yae/archives/000443.html), but I have the feeling it's very expensive. Although I can't find a pricetag anywhere... Does anyone has any experience with similar products, or may be DIY, that you can share? Tnx, Yme http://www.panbo.com/yae/ Larry W4CSC POWER is our friend! |
Looking for high-end marinised PCs
I meant high-end more from a (PC) performance perspective, not so much
from a 'marinized' perspective. If you take a look at Stealth's offering (http://www.panbo.com/yae/archives/000448.html) for example, the specs are fairly similar. But at a price of around $2000, the difference is (primarily) in the degree of marinization I guess. That's where I was hoping to find some insights, tips and tricks. (Larry W4CSC) wrote in message ... If one must ask the price of any "high-end marinized" product, one cannot afford its purchase. The incredibly rich who buy them never quibble over a few thousand quid when purchasing the Rolex of computers......(c; Watch your Lexus salespersonae walk off, should you dare ask "How much?" |
Looking for high-end marinised PCs
The term "maranized" gets stretched quite a bit when it comes to
computers. It looks like the Capax is maranized only in some ad writer's mind. That is just a standard industrial case. I built my shop computer in one. 4U cases take up a LOT of room but you can cram a lot of PCI cards in them. They are also noisy. Painted steel with front and rear fans and a lockable front panel door but nothing waterproof about it. For vibration and shock, the cards are top braced and the drives have shock mounts but that is about it. The modern super compact hard drives are a lot more rugged than the older big ones and with 90% of the features built into the motherboard these days vibration and shock loads are not as much of an issue. What is an issue is moisture and the obnly solution to that is conformal coating on everthing. Even the fanless models let air in through the CD opening. Between the CAPAX and the Stealth 401, I would go with the Stealth. If you need more serial I/O you can put a port expander on one of the USB ports. They may even be conformal coated but if not it would take about an hour to break it down and spray everything with $3 worth of MGC conformal coating. http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/419b.html Yme Bosma wrote: I was looking for a really good marinised PC. Found one (http://www.panbo.com/yae/archives/000443.html), but I have the feeling it's very expensive. Although I can't find a pricetag anywhere... Does anyone has any experience with similar products, or may be DIY, that you can share? Tnx, Yme http://www.panbo.com/yae/ -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Looking for high-end marinised PCs
Hello Glenn,
The term "marinised" refers to the fact that the CAPAX has an IEC945 approval, which is required for any electronics equipment on a SOLAS vessel. I understand the cost for getting this approval is significant. Willem Glenn Ashmore wrote in news:Ajj3c.52689$Ri6.46934 @lakeread04: The term "maranized" gets stretched quite a bit when it comes to computers. It looks like the Capax is maranized only in some ad writer's mind. That is just a standard industrial case. I built my shop computer in one. 4U cases take up a LOT of room but you can cram a lot of PCI cards in them. They are also noisy. Painted steel with front and rear fans and a lockable front panel door but nothing waterproof about it. For vibration and shock, the cards are top braced and the drives have shock mounts but that is about it. The modern super compact hard drives are a lot more rugged than the older big ones and with 90% of the features built into the motherboard these days vibration and shock loads are not as much of an issue. What is an issue is moisture and the obnly solution to that is conformal coating on everthing. Even the fanless models let air in through the CD opening. Between the CAPAX and the Stealth 401, I would go with the Stealth. If you need more serial I/O you can put a port expander on one of the USB ports. They may even be conformal coated but if not it would take about an hour to break it down and spray everything with $3 worth of MGC conformal coating. http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/419b.html Yme Bosma wrote: I was looking for a really good marinised PC. Found one (http://www.panbo.com/yae/archives/000443.html), but I have the feeling it's very expensive. Although I can't find a pricetag anywhere... Does anyone has any experience with similar products, or may be DIY, that you can share? Tnx, Yme http://www.panbo.com/yae/ |
Looking for high-end marinised PCs
Glenn Ashmore wrote in message news:Ajj3c.52689$Ri6.46934@lakeread04...
The term "maranized" gets stretched quite a bit when it comes to computers. It looks like the Capax is maranized only in some ad writer's mind. That is just a standard industrial case. I built my shop computer in one. 4U cases take up a LOT of room but you can cram a lot of PCI cards in them. They are also noisy. Painted steel with front and rear fans and a lockable front panel door but nothing waterproof about it. For vibration and shock, the cards are top braced and the drives have shock mounts but that is about it. The modern super compact hard drives are a lot more rugged than the older big ones and with 90% of the features built into the motherboard these days vibration and shock loads are not as much of an issue. What is an issue is moisture and the obnly solution to that is conformal coating on everthing. Even the fanless models let air in through the CD opening. Between the CAPAX and the Stealth 401, I would go with the Stealth. If you need more serial I/O you can put a port expander on one of the USB ports. They may even be conformal coated but if not it would take about an hour to break it down and spray everything with $3 worth of MGC conformal coating. http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/419b.html Yme Bosma wrote: I was looking for a really good marinised PC. Found one (http://www.panbo.com/yae/archives/000443.html), but I have the feeling it's very expensive. Although I can't find a pricetag anywhere... Does anyone has any experience with similar products, or may be DIY, that you can share? Tnx, Yme http://www.panbo.com/yae/ Thanks for your reply Glenn. Although I am a bit surprised that you would prefer the Stealth over the Capax. I thought your 'ad-writer' comment was more applicable to the Stealth, since it is not specifically developed for maritime use. |
Looking for high-end marinised PCs
Yme Bosma wrote:
Thanks for your reply Glenn. Although I am a bit surprised that you would prefer the Stealth over the Capax. I thought your 'ad-writer' comment was more applicable to the Stealth, since it is not specifically developed for maritime use. I say that because I have that exact case on my system in the shop that runs the CNC machines and I have recently installed a Stealth 401 in a friends boat. The big case IS rugged, has lots of cooling, a big power supply, lots of room for add in boards and bracing to keep the boards in place but it is BIG, heavy and noisy. I can hear those fans over the sound of my milling machine and that is saying something. Other than the case, I don't see anything special in the specs for the CAPAX. It is a standard Intel motherboard and an average Samsung CDR. The 5" WD 36GB SATA drive is not as shock resistant as a 2.5" notebook hard drive. The Stealth is an extremely ruggedly built industrial computer and with audio, USP and Firewire on the front panel and the back it is a lot more convenient to use. While it is not IEC-945 certified it is desighed for mounting on machines in a factory environment and would meet the vibration and shock load test better than the CAPAX. The only question I would have is the requirement for 10 minutes of 2KV 2.5Khz pulses into the supply line. That spec looks like it is to test normal mains 120/240V filtered power supplies and would probably not be appropriate for 18VDC supplies. If you are on a 75' or larger mega yacht that otherwise qualifies for SOLAS, the CAPAX it may be worth it but for a typical 40-50' yacht constrained for space and power the Stealth would definitely be a better choice. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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