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Memory problems
I have two computers on both Win XP PRO
a- Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ. 1024 MB Ram memory b- Pentium 3 790 MHZ..352 MB Ram memory I have a navigation program Maxsea 9.1.1.4 , when I try to load this program on comp. "A " I get the message insufficient memory. I can load without problems the program on the older computer "B" with so much less memory I can't find what the problem is any help will be appreciated. Thanks in Advance Frank |
Memory problems
Frank,
I'm not familiar with 'Maxsea', but don't think that's the problem anyway. As far as I'm concerned, MS never did get a grip on memory management, but that's another story. :^) You might want to try this: First thing, note how many icons are in your system tray (the one on the far right). If you see icons for programs you don't need running, you want to get rid of these. For example, if you've instaled Realplayer, it will start a process every time your computer comes up. You don't need to have this process running on your system 'at all times'. Realplayer will still work fine. So what if it takes an extra second to start up when you want to play a media file. In that case, you can right click on the icon and get into the preferences and have it NOT load on system startup. If you only click exit, it will still load on the next startup/reboot. If you have CD burning software, chances are, when you installed it, several more processes were added. Especially if you've installed something like Roxio. To clean things up that you can't turn off in the system tray and have them stay off, next try this: Click on 'start', then 'run' and then type 'msconfig' and hit enter. In the box that comes up, choose the 'startup' tab at the far right. Oh, before I go further, unless you're comfortable with what is in the other tabs, DON'T EVEN THINK about changing aything in them. :^) Now, look at the list and uncheck anything that you don't feel you need running all the time. Leave stuff in there if you do want running at all times. Examples are any programs/processes associated with you virus protection as well as any programs/processes associated with a software firewall, if you're running one. After fininshing, click on 'apply'. You will next be prompted to reboot for the changes to go into effect. If you're ready to try this, go ahead and reboot. Note, when the system reboots, a diaog box pops up stating that you are running 'selective startup' (if memory serves me). Just check the box to not show you the message again. You already know you made changes. :^) I hope this helps! I strongly suspect this will get you going with Maxsea. Please post a reply either way. -Jim Hans wrote: I have two computers on both Win XP PRO a- Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ. 1024 MB Ram memory b- Pentium 3 790 MHZ..352 MB Ram memory I have a navigation program Maxsea 9.1.1.4 , when I try to load this program on comp. "A " I get the message insufficient memory. I can load without problems the program on the older computer "B" with so much less memory I can't find what the problem is any help will be appreciated. Thanks in Advance Frank |
Memory problems
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 06:43:32 GMT, Jim
wrote: Click on 'start', then 'run' and then type 'msconfig' and hit enter. In the box that comes up, choose the 'startup' tab at the far right. Oh, before I go further, unless you're comfortable with what is in the other tabs, DON'T EVEN THINK about changing aything in them. :^) I'd like to double this statement from Jim. If you don't know EXACTLY what anything on the list does, DON'T DELETE it! You could trash the O/S and it's I/O functions good. I assume this thing has also been on the internet at some point. If so, put it back on the net and download AdAware 6 from www.lavasoft.de for free. Install and run it. The record is 112 spywares simultaneously running hidden in background on a friend's computer, here. There was so much spyware running it slowed down his 2Ghz system and hogged LOTS of memory. When it was OFFLINE, the spyware stored his keystroking in memory and he was running out of space. AdAware will reliably uninstall and delete all this nonsense, which made his computer a real powerhouse! If you are someone who is operating system savvy, I also recommend Spybot Advanced, which is free. Be informed it will find EVERYTHING that has your personal stuff stored in it. DO NOT DELETE EVERYTHING IT FINDS OR THE COMPUTER WON'T RUN! Spybot should not be run by the average appliance operator for this reason. Spybot comes from: http://security.kolla.de/ Larry Larry W4CSC No, no, Scotty! I said, "Beam me a wrench.", not a WENCH! Kirk Out..... |
Memory problems
Thank you all so much for your assistance .
I had a look at the residence programs and I could unload some small starting up programs like Chameleon clock and Acrobat assistance. I have Ad-Aware running for over a year. I had a look at the Virtual Memory. In the old computer I have disk space available 32503 MB, Virtual initial size 528MB, Max size 1056 MB On the new computer free disk space 33556MB, Virtual initial size 1536MB and max size3072 MB Looking at the above , what shall I do still enlarge the virtual memo?? Comparing the two the new computer looks so much better and still?? I could do msconfig and start up in diagnostic startup and try to run the Maxsea program?? wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 05:41:33 GMT, "Hans" wrote: I have two computers on both Win XP PRO a- Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ. 1024 MB Ram memory b- Pentium 3 790 MHZ..352 MB Ram memory I have a navigation program Maxsea 9.1.1.4 , when I try to load this program on comp. "A " I get the message insufficient memory. I can load without problems the program on the older computer "B" with so much less memory I can't find what the problem is any help will be appreciated. Out of memory errors are seldom caused by the amount of RAM you have. They are almost always caused because either the virtual memory has been limited too much, or else there is not enough room on the hard drive for enough virtual memory space. A corrupt executable "can" sometimes cause out of memory errors, but it's not very common. When you hear hoofbeats, look for horses before looking for zebras... right click on "my computer" - properties - advanced -preformance settings. select the advanced tab, and at the bottom select the "change" button. It will tell you how much space is available, and what the current settings are. If you have space available, increase both the Initial size and the maximum size substantially. click the "set button after making the changes, and then reboot and try your program again. BB |
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698 on a Win98 machine that two teenagers had used to download music.
Joe Wood Larry W4CSC wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 06:43:32 GMT, Jim wrote: Click on 'start', then 'run' and then type 'msconfig' and hit enter. In the box that comes up, choose the 'startup' tab at the far right. Oh, before I go further, unless you're comfortable with what is in the other tabs, DON'T EVEN THINK about changing aything in them. :^) I'd like to double this statement from Jim. If you don't know EXACTLY what anything on the list does, DON'T DELETE it! You could trash the O/S and it's I/O functions good. I assume this thing has also been on the internet at some point. If so, put it back on the net and download AdAware 6 from www.lavasoft.de for free. Install and run it. The record is 112 spywares simultaneously running hidden in background on a friend's computer, here. There was so much spyware running it slowed down his 2Ghz system and hogged LOTS of memory. When it was OFFLINE, the spyware stored his keystroking in memory and he was running out of space. AdAware will reliably uninstall and delete all this nonsense, which made his computer a real powerhouse! If you are someone who is operating system savvy, I also recommend Spybot Advanced, which is free. Be informed it will find EVERYTHING that has your personal stuff stored in it. DO NOT DELETE EVERYTHING IT FINDS OR THE COMPUTER WON'T RUN! Spybot should not be run by the average appliance operator for this reason. Spybot comes from: http://security.kolla.de/ Larry Larry W4CSC No, no, Scotty! I said, "Beam me a wrench.", not a WENCH! Kirk Out..... |
Memory problems
I had the msconfig open and did a startup in diagnostic mode try to run the
program no sucsess still the same message \ "Hans" wrote in message ... Thank you all so much for your assistance . I had a look at the residence programs and I could unload some small starting up programs like Chameleon clock and Acrobat assistance. I have Ad-Aware running for over a year. I had a look at the Virtual Memory. In the old computer I have disk space available 32503 MB, Virtual initial size 528MB, Max size 1056 MB On the new computer free disk space 33556MB, Virtual initial size 1536MB and max size3072 MB Looking at the above , what shall I do still enlarge the virtual memo?? Comparing the two the new computer looks so much better and still?? I could do msconfig and start up in diagnostic startup and try to run the Maxsea program?? wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 05:41:33 GMT, "Hans" wrote: I have two computers on both Win XP PRO a- Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ. 1024 MB Ram memory b- Pentium 3 790 MHZ..352 MB Ram memory I have a navigation program Maxsea 9.1.1.4 , when I try to load this program on comp. "A " I get the message insufficient memory. I can load without problems the program on the older computer "B" with so much less memory I can't find what the problem is any help will be appreciated. Out of memory errors are seldom caused by the amount of RAM you have. They are almost always caused because either the virtual memory has been limited too much, or else there is not enough room on the hard drive for enough virtual memory space. A corrupt executable "can" sometimes cause out of memory errors, but it's not very common. When you hear hoofbeats, look for horses before looking for zebras... right click on "my computer" - properties - advanced -preformance settings. select the advanced tab, and at the bottom select the "change" button. It will tell you how much space is available, and what the current settings are. If you have space available, increase both the Initial size and the maximum size substantially. click the "set button after making the changes, and then reboot and try your program again. BB |
Memory problems
I don't know what you're saying here. Are you saying you unchecked
boxes for applications running at startup, and tried the Maxsea without rebooting? If so, then yeah, I wouldn't expect a difference. MSCONFIG does NOT affect the running system. You need to reboot to make those changes go into effect. Sorry, I thought I was pretty clear on that. i.e. turn off what you don't NEED, reboot, and then try your Maxsea program. If by diagnostic mode you mean 'safe mode', that was NOT suggested. Safe mode is good when you installed a driver that conflicts with your system so bad it won't even boot. Then you can go into safe mode to uninstall the program or delete the device drivers. -Jim Hans wrote: I had the msconfig open and did a startup in diagnostic mode try to run the program no sucsess still the same message |
Memory problems
I did a reboot in diagnostic mode so without any resident programs running
and tried to start Maxsea no success. After that I removed the programs I don't need to start up and did a reboot same no success "Jim" wrote in message ... I don't know what you're saying here. Are you saying you unchecked boxes for applications running at startup, and tried the Maxsea without rebooting? If so, then yeah, I wouldn't expect a difference. MSCONFIG does NOT affect the running system. You need to reboot to make those changes go into effect. Sorry, I thought I was pretty clear on that. i.e. turn off what you don't NEED, reboot, and then try your Maxsea program. If by diagnostic mode you mean 'safe mode', that was NOT suggested. Safe mode is good when you installed a driver that conflicts with your system so bad it won't even boot. Then you can go into safe mode to uninstall the program or delete the device drivers. -Jim Hans wrote: I had the msconfig open and did a startup in diagnostic mode try to run the program no sucsess still the same message |
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Hans wrote:
Snip If by diagnostic mode you mean 'safe mode', that was NOT suggested. Safe mode is good when you installed a driver that conflicts with your system so bad it won't even boot. Then you can go into safe mode to uninstall the program or delete the device drivers. -Jim Hans wrote: I had the msconfig open and did a startup in diagnostic mode try to run the program no sucsess still the same message Maxsea is a pretty old programme, and Win XP wasn't invented when Maxsea was created. I think the incompatiblity is with your OS, since you seem to have ample memory and disk space plus a P4 processor. I can run Maxsea on Win98 on a P2 laptop no bother, so it must be the way Win XP allocates memory, i.e. a coding conflict within XP and Maxsea. Is this the latest version of Maxsea? Dennis. Remove "nospam" from return address. |
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:46:05 -0500, Joe Wood
wrote: 698 on a Win98 machine that two teenagers had used to download music. Joe Wood Teach the teenagers to download from Usenet's alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.(genre here) and that won't happen. I have 17M files...(c; Why anyone would use Kaaza or webpages mystifies me.... When they're bored with that, look in alt.binaries.movies.divx.....(c; Larry W4CSC No, no, Scotty! I said, "Beam me a wrench.", not a WENCH! Kirk Out..... |
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Larry W4CSC wrote:
Teach the teenagers to download from Usenet's alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.(genre here) and that won't happen. I have 17M files...(c; You still brag about the gigabytes of the intellectual property of others you have stolen? |
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Hi Dennis,
It's Maxsea 10 which is very recent and developed for XP but ver 7.2 has the same problem. Further the big computer runs fine and never any problem at all As i have said i have two computers both with XP Pro and on one no problems at all. "Dennis Pogson" wrote in message news:24GZb.168$8N6.36@newsfe1-win... Hans wrote: Snip If by diagnostic mode you mean 'safe mode', that was NOT suggested. Safe mode is good when you installed a driver that conflicts with your system so bad it won't even boot. Then you can go into safe mode to uninstall the program or delete the device drivers. -Jim Hans wrote: I had the msconfig open and did a startup in diagnostic mode try to run the program no sucsess still the same message Maxsea is a pretty old programme, and Win XP wasn't invented when Maxsea was created. I think the incompatiblity is with your OS, since you seem to have ample memory and disk space plus a P4 processor. I can run Maxsea on Win98 on a P2 laptop no bother, so it must be the way Win XP allocates memory, i.e. a coding conflict within XP and Maxsea. Is this the latest version of Maxsea? Dennis. Remove "nospam" from return address. |
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To understand the problem, we need to isolate it - when did the problem
begin .. Questions about the machine with 1024 MB ram Has it always had this much memory ? or did you add more to it? If you added more, then: - did it work fine before you added memory? If so, there is the possibility of different memory speeds between existing and new. I suggest you go to the memory mfg web site and look for tips (eg www.Kingston.com has several notes on this issue. As well, you might want to play with your bios memory speed settings. "Hans" wrote in message ... I have two computers on both Win XP PRO a- Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ. 1024 MB Ram memory b- Pentium 3 790 MHZ..352 MB Ram memory I have a navigation program Maxsea 9.1.1.4 , when I try to load this program on comp. "A " I get the message insufficient memory. I can load without problems the program on the older computer "B" with so much less memory I can't find what the problem is any help will be appreciated. Thanks in Advance Frank |
Memory problems
Matt wrote:
To understand the problem, we need to isolate it - when did the problem begin .. Questions about the machine with 1024 MB ram Has it always had this much memory ? or did you add more to it? If you added more, then: - did it work fine before you added memory? If so, there is the possibility of different memory speeds between existing and new. I suggest you go to the memory mfg web site and look for tips (eg www.Kingston.com has several notes on this issue. As well, you might want to play with your bios memory speed settings. "Hans" wrote in message ... I have two computers on both Win XP PRO a- Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ. 1024 MB Ram memory b- Pentium 3 790 MHZ..352 MB Ram memory I have a navigation program Maxsea 9.1.1.4 , when I try to load this program on comp. "A " I get the message insufficient memory. I can load without problems the program on the older computer "B" with so much less memory I can't find what the problem is any help will be appreciated. Thanks in Advance Frank If it's RDRam memory, the 2 sets of 2 banks should be populated by the same speed memory modules, (say PC800), but the individual slots of bank 2 may have larger or smaller capacity modules than the slots in bank1. In other words, the make and type of the modules in bank 2 should match each other, but only the speed has to match the modules in bank 1. Worth checking! This is why they are almost always sold in pairs. Remove "nospam" from return address. |
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Hi All,
Thanks for your help, The computer is new 2 months old only, the mem chip is a pair and I have done mem. check as well and could not find a problem. I have the same problem with an old Maxsea ver.7 program and with the new ver 10. and again no problem on the other old comp. I will be away for a few days with my boat for some serious fishing. Be back on Thursday Cheers "Dennis Pogson" wrote in message ... Matt wrote: To understand the problem, we need to isolate it - when did the problem begin .. Questions about the machine with 1024 MB ram Has it always had this much memory ? or did you add more to it? If you added more, then: - did it work fine before you added memory? If so, there is the possibility of different memory speeds between existing and new. I suggest you go to the memory mfg web site and look for tips (eg www.Kingston.com has several notes on this issue. As well, you might want to play with your bios memory speed settings. "Hans" wrote in message ... I have two computers on both Win XP PRO a- Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ. 1024 MB Ram memory b- Pentium 3 790 MHZ..352 MB Ram memory I have a navigation program Maxsea 9.1.1.4 , when I try to load this program on comp. "A " I get the message insufficient memory. I can load without problems the program on the older computer "B" with so much less memory I can't find what the problem is any help will be appreciated. Thanks in Advance Frank If it's RDRam memory, the 2 sets of 2 banks should be populated by the same speed memory modules, (say PC800), but the individual slots of bank 2 may have larger or smaller capacity modules than the slots in bank1. In other words, the make and type of the modules in bank 2 should match each other, but only the speed has to match the modules in bank 1. Worth checking! This is why they are almost always sold in pairs. Remove "nospam" from return address. |
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Find the Maxsea object module. Select with single left click, open menu
with single right click and left click on properties. In the second tab play with the compatibility settings and see what happens. Joe Wood Hans wrote: I have two computers on both Win XP PRO a- Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ. 1024 MB Ram memory b- Pentium 3 790 MHZ..352 MB Ram memory I have a navigation program Maxsea 9.1.1.4 , when I try to load this program on comp. "A " I get the message insufficient memory. I can load without problems the program on the older computer "B" with so much less memory I can't find what the problem is any help will be appreciated. Thanks in Advance Frank |
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