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Rayming model TN200. PC and MAC compatible.
WAAS capable for better accuracy Compact design only 2.32" x 1.85" in size USB requires no external power Water-resistant housing w/magnetic mount More info at: www.ruggedtech.com Thank you. |
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"Commercial Post".....isn't that like, well, SPAM?
Russ Amiro Russ Amiro 15 Regwood Drive Windsor Jct, NS B2T1K1 CA Phone: 902-861-3746 Fax..: 902-861-1050 Email: Guess we could FAX ol' Russ a copy of accesswave's AUP about spammin'.....(c; Then, again, we could email his message if he spams the newsgroup again..... This isn't your free ad space, you know..... On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:37:02 -0400, RuggedTech Sales wrote: Rayming model TN200. PC and MAC compatible. WAAS capable for better accuracy Compact design only 2.32" x 1.85" in size USB requires no external power Water-resistant housing w/magnetic mount More info at: www.ruggedtech.com Thank you. Larry W4CSC |
Commercial Post - RAYMING TripNav USB GPS Receiver now Available in Atlantic Canada
"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
... "Commercial Post".....isn't that like, well, SPAM? Russ Amiro Russ Amiro 15 Regwood Drive Windsor Jct, NS B2T1K1 CA Phone: 902-861-3746 Fax..: 902-861-1050 Email: Guess we could FAX ol' Russ a copy of accesswave's AUP about spammin'.....(c; Then, again, we could email his message if he spams the newsgroup again..... This isn't your free ad space, you know..... I find political discussions in this group that just go on and on and on far less desirable than an occasional product anouncement that is very on-topic. I have done this too and nobody has complained about this. Many newgroup charters specifically allow short infrequent commercial postings. And I think that Accesswave will hardly consider one or two newgroup posting as spam. In my opinion, spam is mass-mailing to thousands or millions of e-mail recepients. Besides, the post was very clearly marked as 'commercial post', so anyone on expensive bandwidth had the opportunity not to spend his expensive bandwidth on this message. Meindert |
Commercial Post - RAYMING TripNav USB GPS Receiver now Available in Atlantic Canada
Maybe innovative solutions could be considered worthy news to some of the
audience? While I agree this group should not be hammered by commercial e-mails, this type of product is of interest. Is there a fine line that is acceptable? "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... "Commercial Post".....isn't that like, well, SPAM? Russ Amiro Russ Amiro 15 Regwood Drive Windsor Jct, NS B2T1K1 CA Phone: 902-861-3746 Fax..: 902-861-1050 Email: Guess we could FAX ol' Russ a copy of accesswave's AUP about spammin'.....(c; Then, again, we could email his message if he spams the newsgroup again..... This isn't your free ad space, you know..... On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:37:02 -0400, RuggedTech Sales wrote: Rayming model TN200. PC and MAC compatible. WAAS capable for better accuracy Compact design only 2.32" x 1.85" in size USB requires no external power Water-resistant housing w/magnetic mount More info at: www.ruggedtech.com Thank you. Larry W4CSC |
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John Smith wrote:
Maybe innovative solutions could be considered worthy news to some of the audience? While I agree this group should not be hammered by commercial e-mails, this type of product is of interest. Is there a fine line that is acceptable? "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... "Commercial Post".....isn't that like, well, SPAM? Russ Amiro Russ Amiro 15 Regwood Drive Windsor Jct, NS B2T1K1 CA Phone: 902-861-3746 Fax..: 902-861-1050 Email: Guess we could FAX ol' Russ a copy of accesswave's AUP about spammin'.....(c; Then, again, we could email his message if he spams the newsgroup again..... This isn't your free ad space, you know..... On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:37:02 -0400, RuggedTech Sales wrote: Rayming model TN200. PC and MAC compatible. WAAS capable for better accuracy Compact design only 2.32" x 1.85" in size USB requires no external power Water-resistant housing w/magnetic mount More info at: www.ruggedtech.com Thank you. Larry W4CSC Larry, bless him, expends hundreds of lines of bandwidth extolling the virtues of products he likes, so much so that one might conclude he is on the take. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:43:57 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: Is it in the group FAQ or Charter? Yes, it is. On-topic announcements of new products are explicitly allowed by the charter. __________________________________________________ __________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ |
Commercial Post - RAYMING TripNav USB GPS Receiver now Availablein Atlantic Canada
Glen "Wiley" Wilson wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:43:57 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Is it in the group FAQ or Charter? Yes, it is. On-topic announcements of new products are explicitly allowed by the charter. __________________________________________________ __________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ Thanks...not that I have any new products of boating interest, but I don't mind reading about them, no matter the source. Someone ought to send the FAQ to Larry. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:30:19 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: Thanks...not that I have any new products of boating interest, but I don't mind reading about them, no matter the source. Someone ought to send the FAQ to Larry. Actually, I was responding to what I took to be a discussion about product announcements, since I hadn't seen the original post. But as for the charter: The rec.boats.electronics newsgroup is chartered for discussion of all aspects of marine electronics. The newsgroup is open to discussion of all marine and boating-related electronic systems. This includes their use, care and feeding, troubleshooting and repairs, etc. These systems include GPS/Loran, radar/sonar, radio, navigation and performance instruments, interfacing standards (NMEA, etc.), electronic charting, software, computers, simulators, power supplies, etc. The group is not intended for discussion of electro-mechanical systems such as pumps, heads, lights, water heaters, etc. "For Sale" and "Wanted To Buy" postings are not appropriate in this group (rec.boats.marketplace exists for that purpose), but new product announcements and discussions are appropriate. The general "nettiquete" FAQs posted in news.announce.newusers and news.answers all apply to rec.boats.electronics. END CHARTER. I just googled the original post, and while it is on-topic, it seems to be just an add for a website with some cool stuff, not an announcement. A fine distinction, perhaps, but that's the charter. I think Meindert is correct about the spam issue, though. "Spam" is a nasty word for a nasty practice and shouldn't be casually thrown about. Also, since spam is now defined as a crime by several current and coming statutes, calling someone a spammer without proof is not just namecalling anymore. It's publicly accusing someone of a crime. I'm no lawyer and I don't play one on the inernet, but that's not something I'd care to do. The message is apparently a breach of the charter and the rules of netiquette explicitly included in the charter, though. Not as big a breach as publishing someone's contact info on Usenet, perhaps, but a breach. Now, we've spent 20 times the bandwidth used by the original post discussing it, as is alwways the case. Shall we go for 40? __________________________________________________ __________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:16:50 GMT, "Glen \"Wiley\" Wilson"
wrote: Now, we've spent 20 times the bandwidth used by the original post discussing it, as is alwways the case. Shall we go for 40? There - that will help a little bit. :) Thanks for clarifying that - appreciate it. Later, Tom S. Woodstock, CT ---------- "My rod and my reel - they comfort me." St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test |
Commercial Post - RAYMING TripNav USB GPS Receiver now Available in Atlantic Canada
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:26:01 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote: Maybe innovative solutions could be considered worthy news to some of the audience? While I agree this group should not be hammered by commercial e-mails, this type of product is of interest. Is there a fine line that is acceptable? Yes, if the poster is involved, in any way, with making money from his posts, it's SPAM. That line is very broad and easily seen from miles away. If you came on here and said, "Those guys at Mikey's Marine and Storm Door over on Lake Winnepeesexy do a great job fixing Volvo stern drives." That ISN'T spam because you don't work for Mikey and he's not paying you to post it. If MIKEY, on the other hand, came on here to sell his products and services, that IS spam and is not acceptable because he is making money doing so.... The grey area arrives when someone posts their old VHF radio for sale or their personal stuff. With me that's ok. But, with others it's not. That's why we have rec.boats.marketplace for those personal sales ads. If you want to read about them, that's where they should be read and posted. If everyone accepts every company posting ads for new boat stuff or used boats, etc., rec.boats.anyflavor will soon be just another wasted giant ad space like all the webpages you visit these days, blinking spams, snooping spyware, adware installs. Usenet is one of the few places left on the internet where like-minded people can sit and chat at their leisure without having some ******* trying to SELL you something. I'd like to think we can keep it that way, myself. If GPS receivers interest you, go put "GPS receivers" into www.google.com and there's PLENTY of spam-soaked webpages where you can read all about it..... Larry W4CSC |
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"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
... On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:26:01 GMT, "John Smith" wrote: Is there a fine line that is acceptable? Yes, if the poster is involved, in any way, with making money from his posts, it's SPAM. That line is very broad and easily seen from miles away. No! That is not the criterion, that's your opinion. As another poster already pointed out: the charter of this group specifically allows product announcements. It didn't say anything about who this announcement is allowed to make, but it should be on-topic. According to the Net Abuse FAQ, http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html#2.1, spam is defined below: "The term "spam," as used on this newsgroup, means "the same article (or essentially the same article) posted an unacceptably high number of times to one or more newsgroups." CONTENT IS IRRELEVANT. 'Spam' doesn't mean "ads." It doesn't mean "abuse." It doesn't mean "posts whose content I object to." Spam is a funky name for a phenomenon that can be measured pretty objectively: did that post appear X times? (See 3.1, "Yeah, but how many is X?')" Meindert |
Commercial Post - RAYMING TripNav USB GPS Receiver now Available in Atlantic Canada
get lost
"RuggedTech Sales" wrote in message ... Rayming model TN200. PC and MAC compatible. WAAS capable for better accuracy Compact design only 2.32" x 1.85" in size USB requires no external power Water-resistant housing w/magnetic mount More info at: www.ruggedtech.com Thank you. |
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I see your name as often as anybodies Larry. I would far rather read this
information which is applicable to sailors than the long bombastic maliscious diatribes which so often sully these NGs. I guess I can expect one from you huh? Anyway, Spammers never give valid return email addresses, this fella did. As you can see i am also on the Accesswave ISP so i could just go over there and beat his dog up for you...:^) rick On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 03:28:04 GMT, Larry W4CSC wrote: "Commercial Post".....isn't that like, well, SPAM? Russ Amiro Russ Amiro 15 Regwood Drive Windsor Jct, NS B2T1K1 CA Phone: 902-861-3746 Fax..: 902-861-1050 Email: Guess we could FAX ol' Russ a copy of accesswave's AUP about spammin'.....(c; Then, again, we could email his message if he spams the newsgroup again..... This isn't your free ad space, you know..... On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:37:02 -0400, RuggedTech Sales wrote: Rayming model TN200. PC and MAC compatible. WAAS capable for better accuracy Compact design only 2.32" x 1.85" in size USB requires no external power Water-resistant housing w/magnetic mount More info at: www.ruggedtech.com Thank you. Larry W4CSC -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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Maybe you should post your rules so we won't inadvertantly offend you
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 02:37:33 GMT, Larry W4CSC wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:26:01 GMT, "John Smith" wrote: Maybe innovative solutions could be considered worthy news to some of the audience? While I agree this group should not be hammered by commercial e-mails, this type of product is of interest. Is there a fine line that is acceptable? Yes, if the poster is involved, in any way, with making money from his posts, it's SPAM. That line is very broad and easily seen from miles away. If you came on here and said, "Those guys at Mikey's Marine and Storm Door over on Lake Winnepeesexy do a great job fixing Volvo stern drives." That ISN'T spam because you don't work for Mikey and he's not paying you to post it. If MIKEY, on the other hand, came on here to sell his products and services, that IS spam and is not acceptable because he is making money doing so.... The grey area arrives when someone posts their old VHF radio for sale or their personal stuff. With me that's ok. But, with others it's not. That's why we have rec.boats.marketplace for those personal sales ads. If you want to read about them, that's where they should be read and posted. If everyone accepts every company posting ads for new boat stuff or used boats, etc., rec.boats.anyflavor will soon be just another wasted giant ad space like all the webpages you visit these days, blinking spams, snooping spyware, adware installs. Usenet is one of the few places left on the internet where like-minded people can sit and chat at their leisure without having some ******* trying to SELL you something. I'd like to think we can keep it that way, myself. If GPS receivers interest you, go put "GPS receivers" into www.google.com and there's PLENTY of spam-soaked webpages where you can read all about it..... Larry W4CSC -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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Well put, Jack!.....(c;
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 05:34:19 -0700, "Jack Rye" wrote: get lost "RuggedTech Sales" wrote in message .. . Rayming model TN200. PC and MAC compatible. WAAS capable for better accuracy Compact design only 2.32" x 1.85" in size USB requires no external power Water-resistant housing w/magnetic mount More info at: www.ruggedtech.com Thank you. Larry W4CSC Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3 of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to GIVE IT BACK?!! Let's do what Europeans have been doing for centuries. DIVIDE UP THE SPOILS OF OUR CONQUEST! Gas will be $US0.50/US gallon again, STUPIDS! |
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