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"Vito" wrote in message
...
Meindert Sprang wrote:

The small oscillation you get has nothing to do with mass of electrons
and
their inertia. It is caused by the fact that every coil has a bit of
parasitic capacitance, forming a resonant loop with the inductance of
the
coil, ...

Yes but Meindert old bean, if electrons didn't have inertia resonant
circuits wouldn't resonate.

Is this a feeble attempt at humor, or are you an idiot? Sometimes hard to
tell on the net.

del cecchi

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Del Cecchi wrote:

"Vito" wrote
Yes but Meindert old bean, if electrons didn't have inertia resonant
circuits wouldn't resonate.

Is this a feeble attempt at humor, or are you an idiot?

Neither one. Do you doubt that electrons have mass and therefore
inertia? If they did not, then current would stop at once when the coil
unsaturated. But it does not. The little buggers keep going til they've
charged the capacitor (parasitic in this case but still real). Then
(Bugle sounds retreat) they head the other way re energizing the coil
..... etc. .... creating a damped AC wave.

Sometimes hard to tell on the net.

Yes indeed.

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"Vito" wrote in message
...
Del Cecchi wrote:

"Vito" wrote
Yes but Meindert old bean, if electrons didn't have inertia resonant
circuits wouldn't resonate.

Is this a feeble attempt at humor, or are you an idiot?

Neither one. Do you doubt that electrons have mass and therefore
inertia? If they did not, then current would stop at once when the coil
unsaturated. But it does not.

Sorry to say Vito, but that is completely nonsense. The reason current keeps
folwing for a while is magnetism. Current flowing through a wire creates a
magnetic field around the wire. Also, a changing magnetic field induces
current in a wire. What happens when you open the contact is this: the
current stops flowing, the existing static field collapses and is therefore
changing. And the field change induces a current in the wire in the opposite
direction. In a straight wire this effect is hardly noticable but coiled up,
the field around the wire concentrates and the effect gets bigger.

And if you still believe in electron inertia, I advise you to go and read a
book about basic electric laws.

Meindert

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Meindert Sprang wrote:

And if you still believe in electron inertia, I advise you to go and read a
book about basic electric laws.

But Meindert, I weld from time to time and as you probably know welding
requires large current flows. This means huge numbers of electrons are
racing along the wire to the welding rod.

I have noticed that when I pull the rod away from the work it always has
a big blob on the end. Are you saying this isn't because all those
electrons kept rushing into the hot metal and caused it to bulge out
when they had no place to go?

Rick

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"Vito" wrote in message
...
Del Cecchi wrote:

"Vito" wrote
Yes but Meindert old bean, if electrons didn't have inertia resonant
circuits wouldn't resonate.

Is this a feeble attempt at humor, or are you an idiot?

Neither one. Do you doubt that electrons have mass and therefore
inertia? If they did not, then current would stop at once when the coil
unsaturated. But it does not. The little buggers keep going til they've
charged the capacitor (parasitic in this case but still real). Then
(Bugle sounds retreat) they head the other way re energizing the coil
.... etc. .... creating a damped AC wave.

Sometimes hard to tell on the net.

Yes indeed.
Next you will be telling me that you think the electrons are shooting
through the wire so fast that they just keep going and end up in a pile on
the other end, until they shoot back the other way. Snort, giggle, choke.

Yes the electrons have mass. It has nothing to do with how they behave in
electric circuits.

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"Rick" wrote in message
ink.net...
Meindert Sprang wrote:

And if you still believe in electron inertia, I advise you to go and
read a
book about basic electric laws.

But Meindert, I weld from time to time and as you probably know welding
requires large current flows. This means huge numbers of electrons are
racing along the wire to the welding rod.

I have noticed that when I pull the rod away from the work it always has
a big blob on the end. Are you saying this isn't because all those
electrons kept rushing into the hot metal and caused it to bulge out
when they had no place to go?

:-))

By the way, take a good look at your car's headlights: if you take a right
turn, the right headlight gets a little dim because all electrons are forced
to the left side of the wiring in the car. You know, inertia, centrifugal
forces and all....

Meindert

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:45:41 +0100, "Meindert Sprang"
tempted fate with:

By the way, take a good look at your car's headlights: if you take a right
turn, the right headlight gets a little dim because all electrons are forced
to the left side of the wiring in the car. You know, inertia, centrifugal
forces and all....

Meindert

I've worried about my VHF antenna. It's way up at the top of my mast.
Are the electrons slowing down on the way up? And when they come
falling back down the coax like little bombs and plow into my radio,
can they damage it? Is there a radiation hazard?


__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

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Simply install a strong magnet at the top of your mast. It will pull the
tired electrons up and it will slow the plummet of the downward electrons.

You should also be worried about your computer's hard drive. Data is stored
in binary format, 1 and 0. The zero has slightly greater mass and therefore,
if you haven't balanced your hard drive lately you could be wearing out your
bearings prematurely.

You can download software from the web for this.

"Glen Wiley Wilson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:45:41 +0100, "Meindert Sprang"
tempted fate with:

By the way, take a good look at your car's headlights: if you take a
right
turn, the right headlight gets a little dim because all electrons are
forced
to the left side of the wiring in the car. You know, inertia, centrifugal
forces and all....

Meindert

I've worried about my VHF antenna. It's way up at the top of my mast.
Are the electrons slowing down on the way up? And when they come
falling back down the coax like little bombs and plow into my radio,
can they damage it? Is there a radiation hazard?


__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

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When you were welding, were you using DC, DC Reverse or AC?

Rick wrote:
Meindert Sprang wrote:

And if you still believe in electron inertia, I advise you to go and
read a
book about basic electric laws.


But Meindert, I weld from time to time and as you probably know welding
requires large current flows. This means huge numbers of electrons are
racing along the wire to the welding rod.

I have noticed that when I pull the rod away from the work it always has
a big blob on the end. Are you saying this isn't because all those
electrons kept rushing into the hot metal and caused it to bulge out
when they had no place to go?

Rick



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B-2/75 1977-1979
Tayana 37 #192, "Tricia Jean"
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Dan Best wrote:

When you were welding, were you using DC, DC Reverse or AC?

The rod bulges with DCEN (straight polarity)

I get equal bead and bulge when using AC

Rick

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:19:11 GMT, Rick
tempted fate with:


I get equal bead and bulge when using AC

I get equal bead and bulge when using Viagra.

__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:49:46 GMT, "Paul" tempted
fate with:

You should also be worried about your computer's hard drive. Data is stored
in binary format, 1 and 0. The zero has slightly greater mass and therefore,
if you haven't balanced your hard drive lately you could be wearing out your
bearings prematurely.

This suggests that you could make laptops lighter by leaving out the
zeros. Is this how zip files work? But I don't understand. A 0 is
nothing, right? How can 1 be less than 0? Is 2 also less than 0?
Or is it just less than 1? Is this why they say less is more?

I heard that there are ony 10 kinds of people in the world, those who
know binary and those who don't.

__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

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One atom bumps into another atom.

"Hey! you stole one of my electrons"

"Are you sure"

"I'm positive!"

"Meindert Sprang" wrote in message

And if you still believe in electron inertia, I advise you to go and read
a
book about basic electric laws.

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:49:26 +0100,
Meindert Sprang wrote:
"Vito" wrote in message
...
Del Cecchi wrote:

"Vito" wrote
Yes but Meindert old bean, if electrons didn't have inertia resonant
circuits wouldn't resonate.

Is this a feeble attempt at humor, or are you an idiot?

Neither one. Do you doubt that electrons have mass and therefore
inertia? If they did not, then current would stop at once when the coil
unsaturated. But it does not.

Sorry to say Vito, but that is completely nonsense. The reason current keeps
folwing for a while is magnetism. Current flowing through a wire creates a
magnetic field around the wire. Also, a changing magnetic field induces
current in a wire. What happens when you open the contact is this: the
current stops flowing, the existing static field collapses and is therefore
changing. And the field change induces a current in the wire in the opposite
direction. In a straight wire this effect is hardly noticable but coiled up,
the field around the wire concentrates and the effect gets bigger.

And if you still believe in electron inertia, I advise you to go and read a
book about basic electric laws.


Electrons have mass, ergo, they have inertia. Not much it's true, but
it's there.

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have normalcy thrust upon them by a nice nurse with a hypodermic.

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Glen Wilson wrote:

I get equal bead and bulge when using Viagra.

I suppose it helps if you increase the stickout on your wirefeed.

Rick

Bilge Pump Switch - New Rule switch bad out of box.
 

Isn't that what a diode is for? A little check valve? ;)

Speaking of float switches, I installed a brand new Rule superswitch
yesterday. Tested it out, worked fine the FIRST time. After that, when I
released it it wouldn't cut off unless I cycled it up and down and banged on
it a bit. Sheesh.

"Glen Wiley Wilson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:45:41 +0100, "Meindert Sprang"
tempted fate with:

By the way, take a good look at your car's headlights: if you take a
right
turn, the right headlight gets a little dim because all electrons are
forced
to the left side of the wiring in the car. You know, inertia, centrifugal
forces and all....

Meindert

I've worried about my VHF antenna. It's way up at the top of my mast.
Are the electrons slowing down on the way up? And when they come
falling back down the coax like little bombs and plow into my radio,
can they damage it? Is there a radiation hazard?


__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

Bilge Pump Switch
 

Meindert Sprang wrote:

Sorry to say Vito, but that is completely nonsense. The reason current keeps
folwing for a while is magnetism. Current flowing through a wire creates a
magnetic field around the wire. Also, a changing magnetic field induces
current in a wire. What happens when you open the contact is this: the
current stops flowing, the existing static field collapses and is therefore
changing. And the field change induces a current in the wire in the opposite
direction.

But current continues to flow even after the magnetic field has
collapsed. You can prove that with the right instruments.


And if you still believe in electron inertia, I advise you to go and read a
book about basic electric laws.

I did, at Bell Labs - you know the folks who invented transistors, et
cetera. Electrons have mass everything with mass has inertia. Look it up
in any basic physics book, or better yet memorize
http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/EINSTEIN/Appendix1.html. Exam next
Thursday (c:

Bilge Pump Switch - New Rule switch bad out of box.
 

I installed a replacement Rule Superswitch in July and one of the
flexible ligaments connecting the mercury switch in the float opened in
two months. Replaced with Sureflow Piranha float switch without flexing
leads (after getting a refund from West Marine for the Superswitch)
Dick


Keith wrote:

Isn't that what a diode is for? A little check valve? ;)

Speaking of float switches, I installed a brand new Rule superswitch
yesterday. Tested it out, worked fine the FIRST time. After that, when I
released it it wouldn't cut off unless I cycled it up and down and banged on
it a bit. Sheesh.

Bilge Pump Switch - New Rule switch bad out of box.
 

Richard Lane wrote in message ...
I installed a replacement Rule Superswitch in July and one of the
flexible ligaments connecting the mercury switch in the float opened in
two months. Replaced with Sureflow Piranha float switch without flexing
leads (after getting a refund from West Marine for the Superswitch)
Dick


When I worked for GM, the first thing suspect in an electrical problem
was "out of the box" parts ;).
Scotty, electrical guy...



Keith wrote:

Isn't that what a diode is for? A little check valve? ;)

Speaking of float switches, I installed a brand new Rule superswitch
yesterday. Tested it out, worked fine the FIRST time. After that, when I
released it it wouldn't cut off unless I cycled it up and down and banged on
it a bit. Sheesh.