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Skippy's turned into a real lubber
He's back up the highway again. Must have a mistress up there in the
mountains around Clayton, Ga. Don't nobody tell Lydia. Shhhhhhhhhhh! Or, it could be he's also stocking up on moonshine to smuggle into the Bahamas if he ever makes it there which seems doubtful now that's he's spending all his time driving up and down the highway. I knew the boy just didn't have what it takes. Can't wean himself off dirt. http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3 nMe Wilbur Hubbard |
Skippy's turned into a real lubber
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
He's back up the highway again. Must have a mistress up there in the mountains around Clayton, Ga. Don't nobody tell Lydia. Shhhhhhhhhhh! Memory failing Neal? |
Skippy's turned into a real lubber
On Nov 9, 7:42*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: He's back up the highway again. Must have a mistress up there in the mountains around Clayton, Ga. Don't nobody tell Lydia. *Shhhhhhhhhhh! Or, it could be he's also stocking up on moonshine to smuggle into the Bahamas if he ever makes it there which seems doubtful now that's he's spending all his time driving up and down the highway. I knew the boy just didn't have what it takes. Can't wean himself off dirt. http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJ.... Wilbur Hubbard Good timing. Trust you noted we're back on the boat. We being Lydia, her mother, Portia and me. We may even venture out on the water sometime soon :{)) L8R Skip, off to dinner |
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On 2008-11-09 19:42:33 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said: He's back up the highway again. Must have a mistress up there in the mountains around Clayton, Ga. Don't nobody tell Lydia. Shhhhhhhhhhh! Yeah, he DID have a lady up there .... Mum! Isn't it so amazing that you're the first to spot Skip's movements. Jealous? -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:44:29 -0800 (PST), Skip Gundlach
wrote: We may even venture out on the water sometime soon :{)) What does Portia have to say about that ? |
Skippy's turned into a real lubber
"Jere Lull" wrote in message news:200811110129088930-jerelull@maccom... On 2008-11-09 19:42:33 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" said: He's back up the highway again. Must have a mistress up there in the mountains around Clayton, Ga. Don't nobody tell Lydia. Shhhhhhhhhhh! Yeah, he DID have a lady up there .... Mum! Isn't it so amazing that you're the first to spot Skip's movements. Jealous? Me jealous of Skippy? Perish the thought! There is simply nothing to be jealous about. 1) My ships cat "Peeky" is better than "Portia". He loves his boat so much he won't even consider jumping off it even when on the hard for a bottom job. He knows how to swim to the transom and climb up his net to get back on board if he falls off at anchor. 2) My boat is better than the "Wallowing Pig." Better in every way - faster, more economical, easier to maintain, less expensive to upkeep, has more sea miles under her keel, no leaks anywhere, no stinking wind-up sails. Constantly upgraded with the best of materials including new standing rigging and Sta-Locs all around. New wiring throughout. New electronics and Navman instruments. New nav lights. New photovoltaics. New refrigerator. (Waeco/AdlerBarbour) New VHF and on and on and on. Has real spinnaker and asymmetrical cruising chute with sock. Has storm trysail and storm jib. New mainsail and serviceable spare. Has 9 headsails of various sizes and weights. Has seven anchors including CQR, W/C fisherman, Danforth Hi-tensile (3), para-sea anchor and four independent rodes of stainless steel chain and nylon. Has a nice little 40 pound GRP pram (six-feet loa) and stainless steel tubing storage rack at deck level of transom where it stores secure, safe and sound lashed upside down. The pram probably has more miles on her keel than Skippy's mother ship. 3) What else? Oh yeah - I never use it but it has a ElectraSan for the head. Legal for all but no-discharge zones. Also has safe, reliable two-burner stove. No chance of propane explosion. Has full SCUBA for treasure diving and salvage and repair ops. Has NO space robbing, water hogging, perfume stinking, closet filling, constantly whining and bitching female crew members who can't figure out on which side of a daymark or buoy to steer. Has a reliable, easy to maintain, non-polluting and very economical Honda 4-stroke outboard engine. 4) Doesn't need a generator as it's an integrated system and solar powered. Doesn't stink like diesel fuel like Skippy's leaky motor that he tries to fix using bubble gum and hardware store parts. Doesn't need a SPOT because the captain always knows where he goes and is. 5) Has withstood more than two dozen hurricanes and tropical storms with no damage of note. Has withstood a direct violent lightning strike and sustained no structural damage. Has been aground fewer times in 20 years than the "Wallowing Pig" has been aground in 20 months. 6) Has rounded Cape Horn from west to east under sail. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:09:44 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: 3) What else? Oh yeah - I never use it but it has a ElectraSan for the head. Still haven't heard from any here who have an Airhead. No holding tanks - except for the portable one for dumping urine. No stinky hoses, clogged/broken valves, thruhulls, etc Guess most folks just don't fancy the Airhead, which from reports never stinks up the boat. Tradition mostly, I suspect. --Vic |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:09:44 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: 2) My boat is better than the "Wallowing Pig." Better in every way - faster, more economical, easier to maintain, less expensive to upkeep, has more sea miles under her keel, Yes, the tide comes in... The tide goes out... |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:24:12 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:
Still haven't heard from any here who have an Airhead. No holding tanks - except for the portable one for dumping urine. No stinky hoses, clogged/broken valves, thruhulls, etc Guess most folks just don't fancy the Airhead, which from reports never stinks up the boat. Tradition mostly, I suspect. A composting toilet is an interesting concept for a boat. I knew a couple that had one in their cabin (land). Worked pretty well. The only downside I recall, was during the colder months, the cabin was used infrequently, and the composting toilet needed heat to work properly. |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:
I never use it but it has a ElectraSan for the head. Perhaps if Neal occasionally used his head, he wouldn't be so full of... er... himself... |
Skippy's turned into a real lubber
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote
Has NO (snip) female crew members ... Now, that part of the whole rant I can easily believe:) -- Roger Long |
Skippy's turned into a real lubber
Roger Long wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote Has NO (snip) female crew members ... Now, that part of the whole rant I can easily believe:) -- Roger Long I'm finding out that the whole idea of "all female crew" is a bit "different". I've been working with the local ASA school to get my instructor certification. So I often find myself on a Catalina 310 with six women, or a J22 with three. I'm not complaining, mind you. But it's different. -- Richard (remove the X to email) |
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"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
m... Roger Long wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote Has NO (snip) female crew members ... Now, that part of the whole rant I can easily believe:) -- Roger Long I'm finding out that the whole idea of "all female crew" is a bit "different". I've been working with the local ASA school to get my instructor certification. So I often find myself on a Catalina 310 with six women, or a J22 with three. I'm not complaining, mind you. But it's different. Yep, it's different. Enjoyable... they think about and do things quite a bit differently. I had three women students last season on a J-24 in the bay. They were by far the best students, even though they had the same level of experience. They worked together better, especially during COB drills. They trusted each other more than male students, and they used their brains rather than just their muscles to get things done. I would much rather teach women. There may be competition aspects between boats, but there's no place for it on the same boat, and I've had male students get into that all too often. I think you'll find the real challenge will be when you have a mix of men and women. The women tend to be less likely to volunteer, and the men tend to either want to take over or be condescending or have a lack of patience. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:47:22 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: I think you'll find the real challenge will be when you have a mix of men and women. The women tend to be less likely to volunteer, and the men tend to either want to take over or be condescending or have a lack of patience. Finding the right chemistry with a mixed crew can certainly be challenging but it's great when it all comes together. Three of the best crew on my old Cal-34 were women, all very good in their own way but quite diffferent. One was an operating room nurse who was so highly organized that it was unbelievable. She liked to work the "pit" and was always one step ahead of what needed to be done in a complex mark rounding. Another was an aspiring movie producer who stood about 5' 1'' but tough as nails and totally fearless. She worked the foredeck better than all but the very best guys, even on 50 footers. The third was an artist who we taught almost from scratch. She paid meticulous atttention to detail, kept a note book and learned *very* quickly. Being gorgeous didn't hurt either. Some of the guys were very skeptical in the beginning but they learned quickly also. :-) |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:47:22 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: I think you'll find the real challenge will be when you have a mix of men and women. The women tend to be less likely to volunteer, and the men tend to either want to take over or be condescending or have a lack of patience. Finding the right chemistry with a mixed crew can certainly be challenging but it's great when it all comes together. Three of the best crew on my old Cal-34 were women, all very good in their own way but quite diffferent. One was an operating room nurse who was so highly organized that it was unbelievable. She liked to work the "pit" and was always one step ahead of what needed to be done in a complex mark rounding. Another was an aspiring movie producer who stood about 5' 1'' but tough as nails and totally fearless. She worked the foredeck better than all but the very best guys, even on 50 footers. The third was an artist who we taught almost from scratch. She paid meticulous atttention to detail, kept a note book and learned *very* quickly. Being gorgeous didn't hurt either. Some of the guys were very skeptical in the beginning but they learned quickly also. :-) Good grief. Sounds like you need to stop obsessing over Penthouse Letters. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On 2008-11-11 15:57:24 -0500, "Roger Long" said:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote Has NO (snip) female crew members ... Now, that part of the whole rant I can easily believe:) You're more persistent than me. I missed that in my scan. I gotta say that having my "girl" on the boat makes life lots more fun. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On 2008-11-11 17:39:04 -0500, cavelamb himself said:
So I often find myself on a Catalina 310 with six women, or a J22 with three. I'm not complaining, mind you. But it's different. Oh, quit bragging.... ;-) -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:47:22 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: I think you'll find the real challenge will be when you have a mix of men and women. The women tend to be less likely to volunteer, and the men tend to either want to take over or be condescending or have a lack of patience. Finding the right chemistry with a mixed crew can certainly be challenging but it's great when it all comes together. Three of the best crew on my old Cal-34 were women, all very good in their own way but quite diffferent. One was an operating room nurse who was so highly organized that it was unbelievable. She liked to work the "pit" and was always one step ahead of what needed to be done in a complex mark rounding. Another was an aspiring movie producer who stood about 5' 1'' but tough as nails and totally fearless. She worked the foredeck better than all but the very best guys, even on 50 footers. The third was an artist who we taught almost from scratch. She paid meticulous atttention to detail, kept a note book and learned *very* quickly. Being gorgeous didn't hurt either. Some of the guys were very skeptical in the beginning but they learned quickly also. :-) Good grief. Sounds like you need to stop obsessing over Penthouse Letters. Wilbur Hubbard Not like you will ever have a chance to find out, Wee Willie. :) JG and Wayne are exactly right on target. The only thing they didn't say is that the women judge you pretty accurately. If you yell and bluster they won't respect you in the morning. (or sail with you again) But stay calm, talk rationally, you'll have an amazing crew. And they do cooperate better than men. The mixed crews I've taught so far haven't been anywhere near as good. Men, in groups, worry more about the pecking order than getting the job done. Or poke their heads up their butts and keep them there. Pure Ego. Kinda like Wilbur, ya know? -- Richard |
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Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-11-11 17:39:04 -0500, cavelamb himself said: So I often find myself on a Catalina 310 with six women, or a J22 with three. I'm not complaining, mind you. But it's different. Oh, quit bragging.... ;-) :) -- Richard (remove the X to email) |
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"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2008111121325143658-jerelull@maccom... On 2008-11-11 15:57:24 -0500, "Roger Long" said: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote Has NO (snip) female crew members ... Now, that part of the whole rant I can easily believe:) You're more persistent than me. I missed that in my scan. I gotta say that having my "girl" on the boat makes life lots more fun. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ Damn right. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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I once sailed down the Hudson on the sloop "Clearwater" shortly after
joining their advisory board. The captain, mate, and crew were all women. I was the only man on board. I have seldom, if ever, seen a large and difficult to manage vessel (70 foot boom) handled so well. In my long association with many sail training groups, it was almost universally acknowledged, often reluctantly by some fairly macho males, that women make better sailors both at the entry level and as they rise to command. Good example is Maine's Linda Greenlaw of "Perfect Storm" fame. She was the most successful captain in the most challenging fishery on the east coast. Fishing is different than sailing but many of the same priniciples apply. There is an aspect of sailing that plays directly to the strenght of the way the female mind tends to approach life (whether you believe this is hard wired or socialized in). The sailing vessel has no power source of its own. It is made to move only by changing it's own configuration and subtly influencing the environment around it; not by exerting power to overcome its environment. -- Roger Long |
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There are two theories on how to communicate with women. Neither work. |
Skippy's turned into a real lubber
"Roger Long" wrote in message
... I once sailed down the Hudson on the sloop "Clearwater" shortly after joining their advisory board. The captain, mate, and crew were all women. I was the only man on board. I have seldom, if ever, seen a large and difficult to manage vessel (70 foot boom) handled so well. In my long association with many sail training groups, it was almost universally acknowledged, often reluctantly by some fairly macho males, that women make better sailors both at the entry level and as they rise to command. Good example is Maine's Linda Greenlaw of "Perfect Storm" fame. She was the most successful captain in the most challenging fishery on the east coast. Fishing is different than sailing but many of the same priniciples apply. There is an aspect of sailing that plays directly to the strenght of the way the female mind tends to approach life (whether you believe this is hard wired or socialized in). The sailing vessel has no power source of its own. It is made to move only by changing it's own configuration and subtly influencing the environment around it; not by exerting power to overcome its environment. -- Roger Long Can I quote you? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Gordon" wrote in message
m... There are two theories on how to communicate with women. Neither work. Accurate, but *they* seem to communicate with each other just fine. LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:13:09 -0600, cavelamb himself
wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:47:22 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: I think you'll find the real challenge will be when you have a mix of men and women. The women tend to be less likely to volunteer, and the men tend to either want to take over or be condescending or have a lack of patience. Finding the right chemistry with a mixed crew can certainly be challenging but it's great when it all comes together. Three of the best crew on my old Cal-34 were women, all very good in their own way but quite diffferent. One was an operating room nurse who was so highly organized that it was unbelievable. She liked to work the "pit" and was always one step ahead of what needed to be done in a complex mark rounding. Another was an aspiring movie producer who stood about 5' 1'' but tough as nails and totally fearless. She worked the foredeck better than all but the very best guys, even on 50 footers. The third was an artist who we taught almost from scratch. She paid meticulous atttention to detail, kept a note book and learned *very* quickly. Being gorgeous didn't hurt either. Some of the guys were very skeptical in the beginning but they learned quickly also. :-) Good grief. Sounds like you need to stop obsessing over Penthouse Letters. Wilbur Hubbard Not like you will ever have a chance to find out, Wee Willie. :) JG and Wayne are exactly right on target. The only thing they didn't say is that the women judge you pretty accurately. If you yell and bluster they won't respect you in the morning. (or sail with you again) But stay calm, talk rationally, you'll have an amazing crew. And they do cooperate better than men. The mixed crews I've taught so far haven't been anywhere near as good. Men, in groups, worry more about the pecking order than getting the job done. Or poke their heads up their butts and keep them there. Pure Ego. Kinda like Wilbur, ya know? There was a guy here that specialized in chartering his boat to women only, to race in the King's Cup Regatta. We passed him one day - boat full of women; nobody shouting, just people going about their business. Seemed like a good idea..... Whether he was bragging, or not, but he did say that after the daily regatta party some of the ladies became quite friendly :-) Probably pretty heavy lifting for little Willie...... Cheers, Bruce (bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
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