Steve Lusardi wrote:
I don't normally reply to political posts, especially in NGs where they do
not belong, but I will make an exception to this one. I sincerely worry
about our country when the people that elect our leaders are so massively
uninformed. The population's exposure to a biased media and the media's
propensity to edit by exclusion world news frightens the hell out of me. Of
course, you say, I am talking about somebody else, that could not be me.
Well, boys and girls, it is you. The person in the mirror you see in the
morning. I refuse to label Americans as ignorant or stupid, as most of the
rest of the word does, because it is far from the truth. However, if you do
not feel insulted by the rhetoric spewed from the mouth of both candidates,
you should be and it is indicative of the level of understanding in the
general population.

Please do your own simple arithmetic. There is no such thing as a free
lunch. Everything has a cost, please ask yourself where the money will come
from for the advertised programs being spouted and if you determine that
there are no funds for these things, no matter how noble and righteous they
may be, you must NOT trust anything else the candidate says. We are already
in a terrible state with massive national, corporate and personal debt. If
you think the sub-prime mortgage thing is big, think about personal credit
card debt. It is even bigger. Remember, no man is truly free, if he is in
debt. What are you going to do about it. Don't look somewhere else. Look in
the mirror. Put a plan together and vote responsibly.
Steve

I agree. However, there's one problem with that:

The American politick is a "first passed the post, winner takes all"
system, which pretty much guarantees a two-party system. As such, and
because political advertising is NOT free, it also guarantees that only
the richest candidates can even make it TO that "post".

However, there's a difference in this election. The money that Obama is
getting is NOT his own. It's from contributors. A lot of contributors.
He is not using DNC money. Whereas, McCain is using a lot of money
from the RNC.

Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however, vote
for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note that
this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument):

I am voting for Barack Obama on November 4.


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Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however, vote
for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note that
this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument):

Because he has no experience, has never authored and passed legislation and
will turn to entrenched democrat political machinery (of the despicable
Chicago kind) for all his work?

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big picture.
The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your myopia.

Bill Kearney wrote:
Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however,
vote for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note
that this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument):

Because he has no experience, has never authored and passed legislation
and will turn to entrenched democrat political machinery (of the
despicable Chicago kind) for all his work?

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big
picture. The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.

Lincoln had no experience either. We all know how that turned out.

George Bush had executive experience. We all know how that turned out.


Frankly, the fact that Obama has run one of the most exceptionally
successful campaigns in history while McCain's campaign has floundered
miserably, says more about Obama's ability to lead the US than anything
else.

..

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We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big
picture. The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.

Lincoln had no experience either. We all know how that turned out.

The scale of gov't at the time hardly conflates. Certainly not enough to
even come close.

Frankly, the fact that Obama has run one of the most exceptionally
successful campaigns in history while McCain's campaign has floundered
miserably, says more about Obama's ability to lead the US than anything
else.

Lying to the public to get elected, sadly, has no bearing on ability to
govern.

Bill Kearney wrote:

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too
blind to see the big picture. The country, and
likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.

Lincoln had no experience either. We all know
how that turned out.

The scale of gov't at the time hardly conflates.
Certainly not enough to even come close.

Frankly, the fact that Obama has run one of the
most exceptionally successful campaigns in
history while McCain's campaign has floundered
miserably, says more about Obama's ability to
lead the US than anything else.

Lying to the public to get elected, sadly, has
no bearing on ability to govern.

Shhhhhhh, don't let McCain here you say that. THAT
is his entire campaign strategy.

Bill Kearney wrote:

Let me be clear: I do not trust either
candidate. I will, however, vote for the
person that I believe will be the better of the
two (note that this isn't a "lesser of two
evils" argument):

Because he has no experience,

And George W. Bush's experience was???

has never authored
and passed legislation and will turn to
entrenched democrat political machinery (of the
despicable Chicago kind) for all his work?

And George W. Bush turned to the Neo Cons and the
Jewish Cabal forming his foreign policy. Me
thinks I will choose the Chicago gang. The
trains in Chicago run on time!!!


That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too
blind to see the big picture. The country, and
likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:34:15 -0400 in
, "Paul E. Lehmann"
wrote:

Bill Kearney wrote:

Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however,
vote for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note
that this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument):

Because he has no experience,

And George W. Bush's experience was???

Um, running a bunch of businesses into the ground then being governor in
a state that has a constitution that makes the position weak to the point
it's almost a figure head (I live in Texas, it's true, governor is a weak
position under the old 1876 constitution).



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of hangings thrown in. �

- H. L. Mencken

Bill Kearney wrote:
Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however,
vote for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note
that this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument):

Because he has no experience,

Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:

An incumbent president running for a second term.

has never authored and passed legislation

Um, what? Would you like a list of legislation authored and passed by
Obama?

and will turn to entrenched democrat political machinery (of the
despicable Chicago kind) for all his work?

Do you have a citation for that wild claim?

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big
picture. The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?



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Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:

No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None. To say
nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?

McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.

Bill Kearney wrote:

Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:

No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None.

O RLY? Want me to list all the legislation that he authored and passed?


To
say nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.

The United States is an enterprise?


And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?

McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.


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