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"Paul Cassel" wrote in message
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Roger Long wrote:
I think this Palin like moment has proved what we have all suspected.

Clearly an Obama moment showing a complete lack of intelligence, learning
and clear evidence of being solely the product of the most corrupt
political machine in the western hemisphere.

You forgot to say that Obama is a biologically-engineered Marxist, Islamic
terrorist who hates puppies, drinks the blood of Christian babies, and wants
to turn the entire planet over to his evil Overlords of the Planet "Zombie."

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KLC Lewis wrote:
"Paul Cassel" wrote in message
. ..
Roger Long wrote:
I think this Palin like moment has proved what we have all suspected.
Clearly an Obama moment showing a complete lack of intelligence, learning
and clear evidence of being solely the product of the most corrupt
political machine in the western hemisphere.

You forgot to say that Obama is a biologically-engineered Marxist, Islamic
terrorist who hates puppies, drinks the blood of Christian babies, and wants
to turn the entire planet over to his evil Overlords of the Planet "Zombie."


Good points. Thanks.

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"Marty" wrote in message
...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:38:33 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

But, if you use a spinnaker like I do and sheet the main in flat

That's an invitation to a violent broach in any kind of wind.



Indeed, as the your rudder rises out of the crest, which is alread flowing
with your direction of travel and rendering the thing useless, and then
the wind or you boat moves just a bit and you now present you sheeted and
flattened main to the wind...... smack!

Cheers
Martin

You and the other dumb naysayers here clearly lack understanding of basic
laws of physics.

With the chute pulling the boat by the bows and lifting the bows the rest of
the boat is just along for the ride. It's highly unlikely that the rudder is
going to come out of the water when running - even when a wave crest
passes - as there is such a thing as a quarter wave that becomes quite large
at hull speeds.

I can tell you people have rarely or ever sailed on the open seas using a
spinnaker because you obviously don't know what happens out there. You don't
have choppy little seas you find on your little bays and inland lakes that
can raise the stern out of the water enough to disengage the rudder because
of the teeter-totter effect of short wavelengths. Instead, you have large,
long period waves with crests that are not breaking or anything close to
breaking unless you're sailing in a gale and those who sail in a gale under
spinnaker are crazy.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Roger Long" wrote in news:gd4hco$llp$1
@registered.motzarella.org:

http://www.unols.org/publications/ma...ium/motion.pdf

"Anything which impedes the transverse flow of water around a hull will
tend to reduce the amplitude, or angle, of rolling while leaving the period
unaffected."



I always wanted to put a nice long trunk into the keel of a simple planing
runabout with a weighted swing keel like a small sailboat that would simply
swing itself up into the trunk at planing speeds, yet swing down as you
came off the plane into displacement mode to stop the rolling WITHOUT
having to lose the deep-v narrow hull and replace it with the typical
trihull design with chines that make it pound like hell on every wave it
hits.....beating you to death in the process.

I rode across the harbor a month ago in moderate chop in an old deep V
aluminum fishing boat, circa 1965, that cut so cleanly through the chop
without pounding making the crossing such a more pleasurable experience.

I think I'd like to keep the V that rolls so much with a swing keel in a
trunk that would stop it and fold up out of the way at planing speed....

Silly old nut...That would cost profit!

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Paul Cassel wrote in
:

clear evidence of being solely the product of the most
corrupt political machine in the western hemisphere.


Are you talking about the Council on Foreign Relations or the Freemasons??

Does Palin have a boat? Sail or power??

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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:22:57 +0000, Larry wrote:


Does Palin have a boat? Sail or power??

Todd Palin is a salmon fisherman, so he must have a boat. I'm assuming
powered.

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
anews.com:

With the chute pulling the boat by the bows and lifting the bows the
rest of the boat is just along for the ride. It's highly unlikely that
the rudder is going to come out of the water when running - even when
a wave crest passes - as there is such a thing as a quarter wave that
becomes quite large at hull speeds.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDmhCtyby3c

Speaking of chutes, isn't it time we jumped from the mid 1800's
inefficient airbag technology streaming from your pole to the serious
power the parasailing community has known about for years, like the
Germans below have done for ship boost propulsion? This would be a
great boon to sail power. Look carefully at the AZIMUTH RANGE the power
meter on the ship control panel of it shows in green! It's not just for
following seas....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUyetrs3MQ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEnGm2eYoew


Now, combine a parasail dragging your hull through the water with a
rotating balloon that provides kilowatts of electrical energy from its
Bornoulli principle shaped object, like those below. The technology is
to replace the very expensive, hard to maintain wind generator towers,
like that damned noisy thing on your stern buzzing away while you're
trying to sleep...with one of these rotating electrical generator
balloons in the movies below! The same principle of the parasail is
turned into a vaned rotating genset kite that not only can pull your
boat through the water like the parasail, but send much-needed
electrical power down the tether lines to recharge those crappy golf
cart batteries in the bilge! At anchor, you wouldn't douse the chute,
you'd continue to deploy it, anchoring from your stern to keep the chute
genset downwind, high up above the interfering shore obstructions. An
automated winch system would deploy or retrieve the barrel-shaped
balloon to prevent over charging and overspeed operation, running on the
power the balloon provides, of course.

Now in the electricity generating business in the anchorage, floating
dropcords would be deployed to other boats who wish to BUY electrical
energy from you, reducing your costs of the balloon's purchase and
operating expenses, maybe even turning a profit....(c;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6ZFcKnP2AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6vgWP5U5Ew

Very cool stuff for anyone willing to pull his head out of the sand and
move on from trying to play Captain Blythe and the Pirates circa 1800s.

I doubt you could hear the balloon making 10KW from your bunk....(c;
If the wind died, the balloon would be straight up over your deploying
winch, not drowning in the water....a great idea!

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"Larry" wrote in message
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Now, combine a parasail dragging your hull through the water with a
rotating balloon that provides kilowatts of electrical energy from its
Bornoulli principle shaped object, like those below.
snipped
At anchor, you wouldn't douse the chute,
you'd continue to deploy it, anchoring from your stern to keep the chute
genset downwind, high up above the interfering shore obstructions. An
automated winch system would deploy or retrieve the barrel-shaped
balloon to prevent over charging and overspeed operation, running on the
power the balloon provides, of course.

Now in the electricity generating business in the anchorage, floating
dropcords would be deployed to other boats who wish to BUY electrical
energy from you, reducing your costs of the balloon's purchase and
operating expenses, maybe even turning a profit....(c;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6ZFcKnP2AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6vgWP5U5Ew

Very cool stuff for anyone willing to pull his head out of the sand and
move on from trying to play Captain Blythe and the Pirates circa 1800s.

I doubt you could hear the balloon making 10KW from your bunk....(c;
If the wind died, the balloon would be straight up over your deploying
winch, not drowning in the water....a great idea!


If you anchored by the stern and left a large parachute flying I doubt if
anyone else would care to anchor near enough to pass a wire to you for some
of your electrical power.

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"Edgar" wrote in
:

If you anchored by the stern and left a large parachute flying I doubt
if anyone else would care to anchor near enough to pass a wire to you
for some of your electrical power.




Wow....another benefit I hadn't thought of, thanks! Less crowding in by
the other boats!

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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:13:18 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Instead, you have large,
long period waves with crests that are not breaking or anything close to
breaking

That's on a good day, and then there are the others.

It does not take a wave to throw a boat into a broach if it is dead
down wind with the main sheeted in hard. Any strong gust will do.