On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:03:27 -0700, Stephen Trapani
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:06:24 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

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On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:19:56 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/4846kf


United States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick orders
Obama to produce the following:
1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long version)
Birth Certificate; and
2. A certified copy of Obama's Certification of Citizenship;
3. A Certified copy of Obama's Oath of Allegiance

Obama can't produce them because he doesn't have them.
I'm quite sure I don't have all of thiose documents for myself, and
you don't have them for yourself, either.

Meanwhile, here's an editorial from George W Bush's hometown newspaper
in Crawford, TX:

http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolute...p?a=3337&z=290

EDITORIAL
Sunday, October 05, 2008
By Nathan Diebenow, Don M. Fisher, W. Leon Smith

*We Trust Obama
**/2008 Presidential Endorsement/*

So, how’s that free market economy working for you?

A tiny bit of research about the banking crisis reveals that it was not
the free market that caused it, it was *over* regulation (primarily
fannie and freddie) which compelled banks to provide mortgages to people
who did not qualify. When the housing market slumped millions of these
people defaulted because there mortgages were worth more than their
property.

It is the height of stupidity for lefties to be blaming the economic
crisis on "the free market" when it has been democrats and only
democrats over the years which put in place and then strengthened the
regulations that caused this crisis.

Stephen

Once again, Stephen Trapani reveals his idiocy in all it's glory.

He does this pretty much every time he posts, so it doesn't surprise
anyone.

I provided a statement and argument, you replied entirely with ad
hominem and no relevant content apparently because you haven't a clue
what I'm talking about. I'm afraid that makes you the idiot.

Stephen

Au contraire. I no longer bother trying to educate you, because you
have proven uneducable. Point by point dissections of your nutcase
thinking are not worth the trouble. It's enough just to point out that
you are an idiot. That's usually enough of a hint for rational
intelligent people to "get it".

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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:03:27 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:06:24 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:19:56 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/4846kf


United States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick orders
Obama to produce the following:
1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long version)
Birth Certificate; and
2. A certified copy of Obama's Certification of Citizenship;
3. A Certified copy of Obama's Oath of Allegiance

Obama can't produce them because he doesn't have them.
I'm quite sure I don't have all of thiose documents for myself, and
you don't have them for yourself, either.

Meanwhile, here's an editorial from George W Bush's hometown newspaper
in Crawford, TX:

http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolute...p?a=3337&z=290

EDITORIAL
Sunday, October 05, 2008
By Nathan Diebenow, Don M. Fisher, W. Leon Smith

*We Trust Obama
**/2008 Presidential Endorsement/*

So, how’s that free market economy working for you?

A tiny bit of research about the banking crisis reveals that it was not
the free market that caused it, it was *over* regulation (primarily
fannie and freddie) which compelled banks to provide mortgages to people
who did not qualify. When the housing market slumped millions of these
people defaulted because there mortgages were worth more than their
property.

It is the height of stupidity for lefties to be blaming the economic
crisis on "the free market" when it has been democrats and only
democrats over the years which put in place and then strengthened the
regulations that caused this crisis.

Stephen
Once again, Stephen Trapani reveals his idiocy in all it's glory.

He does this pretty much every time he posts, so it doesn't surprise
anyone.
I provided a statement and argument, you replied entirely with ad
hominem and no relevant content apparently because you haven't a clue
what I'm talking about. I'm afraid that makes you the idiot.

Stephen

Au contraire. I no longer bother trying to educate you, because you
have proven uneducable.

Translation: "You've made a fool out of me when I tried to argue with
you so I have to resort to insults."

Point by point dissections of your nutcase
thinking are not worth the trouble. It's enough just to point out that
you are an idiot. That's usually enough of a hint for rational
intelligent people to "get it".

I suggest you look into the ad hominem fallacy. Basically, it's not for
rational people. If you want to be counted among them someday, I suggest
you stop doing it.

Stephen

On Oct 7, 6:36*am, wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:19:56 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/4846kf

United States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick orders
Obama to produce the following:
1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long version)
Birth Certificate; and
2. A certified copy of Obama's Certification of Citizenship;
3. A Certified copy of Obama's Oath of Allegiance

Obama can't produce them because he doesn't have them.

I'm quite sure I don't have all of thiose documents for myself, and
you don't have them for yourself, either.

Meanwhile, here's an editorial from George W Bush's hometown newspaper
in Crawford, TX:

http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolute...p?a=3337&z=290

EDITORIAL
Sunday, October 05, 2008
By Nathan Diebenow, Don M. Fisher, W. Leon Smith

*We Trust Obama
**/2008 Presidential Endorsement/*

So, how’s that free market economy working for you?

This time four years ago, The Lone Star Iconoclast, as the hometown
newspaper for President George W. Bush, endorsed Sen. John Kerry for
president. Back then, we wholeheartedly believed Kerry would restore
order to the chaos of the previous Bush term. Now, we feel called to
return for a moment from exile near Crawford, Texas, to witness
another presidential election and throw our two cents in...

We trust Sen. Barack Obama to be our next President of the United
States.

But we disagree on so many of his issue positions. For instance, we
want our troops out of the Middle East now. We think stronger wages —
for all workers foreign and domestic living in America — should
replace all future "free trade" agreements. We will support "clean
coal" only when Al Gore uses his teeth to pick up the clean end of a
dog turd. And we believe that this country needs to accept that Ronald
Reagan was a complete idiot.

Still, we trust Obama.

Why? The junior senator from Illinois has shown us that it is not the
world that must change. America must change. For decades, we have
listened to money lenders like Alan Greenspan as if we wanted to
return to those Paleolithic days before Joseph’s "Seven Years of
Plenty and Famine." The next president must do more than let Jesus
take the wheel; he must be willing to throw the free market money
changers out of the temple.

Obama has paid his dues.

Given the state of our political system, Obama has still inspired
citizens young and old and across religious and ethnic lines during
his long-fought campaign. Nobody experienced this phenomenon better
than us Texans during our hotly-contested primary season. Any
political party would die for that kind of organization, drive, and
commitment. Thanks to him, this next election will attract more voters
than ever before.

Obama believes in you.

From what we’ve seen of him, Obama cares about his family and their
well-beings. He listens to his opponents and struggles with them to
find common ground. He strongly believes that America is at her best
when she helps her neighbors get ahead. So for him, this election is
not about him. It’s about you. How are you? Are you happy? How is your
family? How is work? Are you living better than you were four or eight
years ago?

Vote Obama.

We will enter our voting booths justified on Nov. 4 by asking
ourselves "Who do I trust?" Obama’s opponents share the same
qualities: anger, cynicism, desperation, and disrespect. Obama has
shown us that he is taking a chance at losing this election to earn
our trust and share future prosperity among us. He believes that those
who receive the greatest material benefit from America should bear the
greatest burden of maintaining her.

Stay vigilant.

The future of America is, as it has always been, in the hands of its
citizenry. We would not have it any other way. It makes life more
interesting — freakier — even with Barack Obama in the White House.
Still, the hounds of fascism are always awake, hiding, hungry, and
ready to control.

Americans must not choose between liberty and the blessings of food,
rent, medicine, and life-sustaining necessities. Such grace is cheap.
We must instead nourish our freedom.

Now that the Iconoclast/ /has said its piece, it will return to its
exile and gather its energy for another day. May you pursue your
happiness with hope, grace, love, and decency in community.

— Nathan Diebenow, Don M. Fisher, W. Leon Smith

"Now that the Iconoclast has said its piece, it will return to its
exile and gather its energy for another day"
What kind of Newspaper is this??!! I'm guessing some kind of Communist
paper no one reads. they are knocking the Free Market economy. What is
the alternative? Government controlled socialism. This paper has no
credibility. This problem came from the democrats forcing banks to
loan money to paople that couldnt afford to pay it back and then when
there was an attempt to bring attention to the problem, they denied
there was a problem. Mr Maobama was right there.

"Gregory Hall" wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4846kf

United States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick orders
Obama to produce the following:
1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long version)
Birth Certificate; and
2. A certified copy of Obama's Certification of Citizenship;
3. A Certified copy of Obama's Oath of Allegiance


--
Gregory Hall

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

If Obama was born in the U.S., he might not have access to his
original birth certificate. A certified copy is all he will ever have.

In many counties (such as the one where I was born) all original birth
certificates are county property. You can have all the copies you
want, and the clerk of court will be glad to certify them.

What's all this about a "Certificate of Citizenship"? What's an "Oath
of Allegiance"?
I certainly don't have either of those. Is that one of those black-
helicopter things we should worry about?

Personally, I'd just as soon not have the gov't require natural-born
citizens to clutter up their lives with yet more worthless paperwork.

DSK

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:23:12 -0700, dougking888 wrote:


What's all this about a "Certificate of Citizenship"? What's an "Oath of
Allegiance"?

If you become a naturalized citizen, the government will give you an
Certificate of Citizenship and make you take an Oath of Allegiance. One
part of the Berg suit states that even if Obama was born in this country,
when his parents took him to Indonesia, he lost his American citizenship,
and would of had to be naturalized.

"Gregory Hall" wrote in
:

http://tinyurl.com/4846kf


United States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick
orders Obama to produce the following:
1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long
version) Birth Certificate; and
2. A certified copy of Obama's Certification of Citizenship;
3. A Certified copy of Obama's Oath of Allegiance

Obama can't produce them because he doesn't have them. He's a fraud.
He's a Muslim and part of an Al Queda plot to take over the country,
soon to be thwarted.

It appears that Hillary is going to be the new Democrat candidate real
soon....

Perhaps there is a god.

--
Gregory Hall



So, the Republicans are trying to elect The Keating 5's dirtiest
*******.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW-hNDnj4kQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9xgFYu5DEA

So, we have very dirty, nasty hands at the RNC in charge....Keating
isn't going away, nor is John's nasty little Hanoi secrets.

Now, do you REALLY think, in your heart, that the Democrat Party is SO
stupid that they would hand the Republican Party a free pass for 4 more
years of banker-induced war and neocon genocide by putting up ANY
candidate that is CLEARLY not qualified? Come on!



Both these nice Freemasons are all members of the "clubs" that make
them eligible for the Council On Foreign Relations and the nasty cults
to be President puppets of the ruling elite. Doesn't matter which one,
they'll both do as they are told....or else:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E66__vymfPA
Remember what happened to the last President who didn't follow orders
from "them"?

Why do you think liberal TV corporations are all so quiet on McCain's
sordid past?

Because they are being told to....easy as that.

......Just like investigating 9/11

"Larry" wrote in message
...
troll and rants removed

I think you should vote for Barr or Paul.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. JG" wrote in
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Paul.

Oh if we were only allowed to........but we're not

Diebold already as the voting machines stuffed...

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

Paul.

Oh if we were only allowed to........but we're not

Diebold already as the voting machines stuffed...



Are you telling me that you're unable to vote for Barr or Paul? I believe
they're on many state ballots.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

In article lutions,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

Paul.

Oh if we were only allowed to........but we're not

Diebold already as the voting machines stuffed...



Are you telling me that you're unable to vote for Barr or Paul? I believe
they're on many state ballots.

Ron Paul is going on the Louisiana ballot, thanks to our meet-up groups..

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Molesworth

http://www.stcustards.free-online.co.uk/