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Judge denies Democrat Party and Obama's motion to dismiss
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On Oct 7, 8:06 am, Stephen Trapani wrote: ... A tiny bit of research about the banking crisis reveals that it was not the free market that caused it, it was *over* regulation (primarily fannie and freddie) ... As I've said before that's a meme current mostly with folks who can't add. I thought the following was a pretty amusing take: http://www.newsweek.com/id/162789 From that article: "Look. There was a culture of stupid, reckless lending, of which Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the subprime lenders were an integral part." Basically Fannie and Freddie regulations created a false market which was then not subjected to enough oversight and hence abused. That's the problem with market regulation, it creates the need for ever more regulating. Calling this a failure of free market principles is asinine. It's like saying communism would have worked if only the leaders had been smart enough to be more brutal and squelch more of the citizens' rights. Stephen |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in easolutions: Are you telling me that you're unable to vote for Barr or Paul? I believe they're on many state ballots. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com No, I'm telling you you're not able to vote for anyone not programmed to win by the Diebold viruses built into the voting machines....as EXTENSIVELY documented by very reputable institutions like Stanford's Computer Science geniuses. Youtube search on Diebold They've been widely televised. I'm wondering.... is there anything that is not a conspiracy in your view? I could possibly buy one or a couple, but not everything can be a conspiracy. That's just dumb sounding. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:03:27 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote: wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:06:24 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote: wrote: On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:19:56 -0400, "Gregory Hall" wrote: http://tinyurl.com/4846kf United States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick orders Obama to produce the following: 1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long version) Birth Certificate; and 2. A certified copy of Obama's Certification of Citizenship; 3. A Certified copy of Obama's Oath of Allegiance Obama can't produce them because he doesn't have them. I'm quite sure I don't have all of thiose documents for myself, and you don't have them for yourself, either. Meanwhile, here's an editorial from George W Bush's hometown newspaper in Crawford, TX: http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolute...p?a=3337&z=290 EDITORIAL Sunday, October 05, 2008 By Nathan Diebenow, Don M. Fisher, W. Leon Smith *We Trust Obama **/2008 Presidential Endorsement/* So, how’s that free market economy working for you? A tiny bit of research about the banking crisis reveals that it was not the free market that caused it, it was *over* regulation (primarily fannie and freddie) which compelled banks to provide mortgages to people who did not qualify. When the housing market slumped millions of these people defaulted because there mortgages were worth more than their property. It is the height of stupidity for lefties to be blaming the economic crisis on "the free market" when it has been democrats and only democrats over the years which put in place and then strengthened the regulations that caused this crisis. Stephen Once again, Stephen Trapani reveals his idiocy in all it's glory. He does this pretty much every time he posts, so it doesn't surprise anyone. I provided a statement and argument, you replied entirely with ad hominem and no relevant content apparently because you haven't a clue what I'm talking about. I'm afraid that makes you the idiot. Stephen Au contraire. I no longer bother trying to educate you, because you have proven uneducable. Point by point dissections of your nutcase thinking are not worth the trouble. It's enough just to point out that you are an idiot. That's usually enough of a hint for rational intelligent people to "get it". |
Judge denies Democrat Party and Obama's motion to dismiss
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:12:21 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote: wrote: On Oct 7, 8:06 am, Stephen Trapani wrote: ... A tiny bit of research about the banking crisis reveals that it was not the free market that caused it, it was *over* regulation (primarily fannie and freddie) ... As I've said before that's a meme current mostly with folks who can't add. I thought the following was a pretty amusing take: http://www.newsweek.com/id/162789 From that article: "Look. There was a culture of stupid, reckless lending, of which Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the subprime lenders were an integral part." Basically Fannie and Freddie regulations created a false market which was then not subjected to enough oversight and hence abused. That's the problem with market regulation, it creates the need for ever more regulating. Calling this a failure of free market principles is asinine. It's like saying communism would have worked if only the leaders had been smart enough to be more brutal and squelch more of the citizens' rights. Stephen There you go again! Bwhahahahaha! |
Judge denies Democrat Party and Obama's motion to dismiss
On Oct 7, 9:12*pm, Stephen Trapani wrote:
.... Basically Fannie and Freddie regulations created a false market which was then not subjected to enough oversight and hence abused. ... What market was that? The sub-prime market? The CDO market? The CDS market? F&F bought a small percent of the CDO's out there and when they turned to crap it trashed their books. I'm not going to claim that they are victims since they should have known better but they are in no way, shape or form the "cause" of this problem. --Tom. |
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:03:27 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote: wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:06:24 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote: wrote: On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:19:56 -0400, "Gregory Hall" wrote: http://tinyurl.com/4846kf United States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick orders Obama to produce the following: 1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long version) Birth Certificate; and 2. A certified copy of Obama's Certification of Citizenship; 3. A Certified copy of Obama's Oath of Allegiance Obama can't produce them because he doesn't have them. I'm quite sure I don't have all of thiose documents for myself, and you don't have them for yourself, either. Meanwhile, here's an editorial from George W Bush's hometown newspaper in Crawford, TX: http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolute...p?a=3337&z=290 EDITORIAL Sunday, October 05, 2008 By Nathan Diebenow, Don M. Fisher, W. Leon Smith *We Trust Obama **/2008 Presidential Endorsement/* So, how’s that free market economy working for you? A tiny bit of research about the banking crisis reveals that it was not the free market that caused it, it was *over* regulation (primarily fannie and freddie) which compelled banks to provide mortgages to people who did not qualify. When the housing market slumped millions of these people defaulted because there mortgages were worth more than their property. It is the height of stupidity for lefties to be blaming the economic crisis on "the free market" when it has been democrats and only democrats over the years which put in place and then strengthened the regulations that caused this crisis. Stephen Once again, Stephen Trapani reveals his idiocy in all it's glory. He does this pretty much every time he posts, so it doesn't surprise anyone. I provided a statement and argument, you replied entirely with ad hominem and no relevant content apparently because you haven't a clue what I'm talking about. I'm afraid that makes you the idiot. Stephen Au contraire. I no longer bother trying to educate you, because you have proven uneducable. Translation: "You've made a fool out of me when I tried to argue with you so I have to resort to insults." Point by point dissections of your nutcase thinking are not worth the trouble. It's enough just to point out that you are an idiot. That's usually enough of a hint for rational intelligent people to "get it". I suggest you look into the ad hominem fallacy. Basically, it's not for rational people. If you want to be counted among them someday, I suggest you stop doing it. Stephen |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:33:34 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote: wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:03:27 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote: wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:06:24 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote: wrote: On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:19:56 -0400, "Gregory Hall" wrote: http://tinyurl.com/4846kf United States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick orders Obama to produce the following: 1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long version) Birth Certificate; and 2. A certified copy of Obama's Certification of Citizenship; 3. A Certified copy of Obama's Oath of Allegiance Obama can't produce them because he doesn't have them. I'm quite sure I don't have all of thiose documents for myself, and you don't have them for yourself, either. Meanwhile, here's an editorial from George W Bush's hometown newspaper in Crawford, TX: http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolute...p?a=3337&z=290 EDITORIAL Sunday, October 05, 2008 By Nathan Diebenow, Don M. Fisher, W. Leon Smith *We Trust Obama **/2008 Presidential Endorsement/* So, how’s that free market economy working for you? A tiny bit of research about the banking crisis reveals that it was not the free market that caused it, it was *over* regulation (primarily fannie and freddie) which compelled banks to provide mortgages to people who did not qualify. When the housing market slumped millions of these people defaulted because there mortgages were worth more than their property. It is the height of stupidity for lefties to be blaming the economic crisis on "the free market" when it has been democrats and only democrats over the years which put in place and then strengthened the regulations that caused this crisis. Stephen Once again, Stephen Trapani reveals his idiocy in all it's glory. He does this pretty much every time he posts, so it doesn't surprise anyone. I provided a statement and argument, you replied entirely with ad hominem and no relevant content apparently because you haven't a clue what I'm talking about. I'm afraid that makes you the idiot. Stephen Au contraire. I no longer bother trying to educate you, because you have proven uneducable. Translation: "You've made a fool out of me when I tried to argue with you so I have to resort to insults." Point by point dissections of your nutcase thinking are not worth the trouble. It's enough just to point out that you are an idiot. That's usually enough of a hint for rational intelligent people to "get it". I suggest you look into the ad hominem fallacy. Basically, it's not for rational people. If you want to be counted among them someday, I suggest you stop doing it. Stephen Sure, Stephen. Whatever. |
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"WaIIy" wrote in message
... On 07 Oct 2008 18:22:01 GMT, Larry wrote: Now, do you REALLY think, in your heart, that the Democrat Party is SO stupid that they would hand the Republican Party a free pass for 4 more years of banker-induced war and neocon genocide by putting up ANY candidate that is CLEARLY not qualified? Come on! "You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn't care anything about. That's a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking." Louis Farrakhan, addressing a large crowd Feb. 24, Nation of Islam Saviour's Day 2008. And, Obama rejected and denounced his endorsement. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
[OT] Judge denies Democrat Party and Obama's motion to dismiss
"WaIIy" wrote in message
... On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:19:02 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "WaIIy" wrote in message . .. On 07 Oct 2008 18:22:01 GMT, Larry wrote: Now, do you REALLY think, in your heart, that the Democrat Party is SO stupid that they would hand the Republican Party a free pass for 4 more years of banker-induced war and neocon genocide by putting up ANY candidate that is CLEARLY not qualified? Come on! "You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn't care anything about. That's a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking." Louis Farrakhan, addressing a large crowd Feb. 24, Nation of Islam Saviour's Day 2008. And, Obama rejected and denounced his endorsement. Ya,, like he "rejected" Wright. Well, he did reject his own grandmother. ?? He absolutely rejected Wright, who was spouting hate-filled language. Is this what's important to you? If so, you should vote for McPalin. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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