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On 2008-10-03 22:31:59 -0400, Marty said:
Jere Lull wrote: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3 nMe I don't know what has happened, suddenly my spot page will not load properly, no map, just a list of points and I can't get them to give me position. Would you mind posting the URL again using tinyurl.com? Cheers Marty Funny, but I was able to click the above link through its several quotings just now. This is the first I've tried tinyurl. try http://tinyurl.com/FlyingPigsPosition -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:51:52 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: http://www.octhebeach.com/info/ocean...ture-wind.html Skip is still writing the book about "Beating against the current whilst sleeping" |
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The SPOT page says "Done" but then takes a long time to show anything. Be
patient. -- Roger Long |
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"Roger Long" wrote in message ... The SPOT page says "Done" but then takes a long time to show anything. Be patient. -- Roger Long Duh! Gogarty ain't the sharpest tool in the shed . . . |
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Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-10-03 22:31:59 -0400, Marty said: Jere Lull wrote: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3 nMe I don't know what has happened, suddenly my spot page will not load properly, no map, just a list of points and I can't get them to give me position. Would you mind posting the URL again using tinyurl.com? Cheers Marty Funny, but I was able to click the above link through its several quotings just now. This is the first I've tried tinyurl. try http://tinyurl.com/FlyingPigsPosition Seems to be something with my system,, Spot just refuses to load and present a chart properly with Firefox, if I use Internet Exploder, it works fine. Problably just another plot from Satan's spawn, aka, Bill Gates/Microsoft Corp. Cheers Marty |
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Roger Long wrote:
The SPOT page says "Done" but then takes a long time to show anything. Be patient. SPOT was working great for me with Firefox, then inexplicably turned to gobbledygook, tried shutting down the whole 'puter and restarting, no luck. Works fine with Explorer..FM I guess. Cheers Marty |
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Marty wrote:
Jere Lull wrote: On 2008-10-03 22:31:59 -0400, Marty said: Jere Lull wrote: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3 nMe I don't know what has happened, suddenly my spot page will not load properly, no map, just a list of points and I can't get them to give me position. Would you mind posting the URL again using tinyurl.com? Cheers Marty Funny, but I was able to click the above link through its several quotings just now. This is the first I've tried tinyurl. try http://tinyurl.com/FlyingPigsPosition Seems to be something with my system,, Spot just refuses to load and present a chart properly with Firefox, if I use Internet Exploder, it works fine. Problably just another plot from Satan's spawn, aka, Bill Gates/Microsoft Corp. Cheers Marty I'm using Firefox and it works just fine. I'm showing him SE of Nags Head as of 0900 western time Sat morn. Gordon |
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"Marty" wrote in message ... wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:45:16 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:16:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Marty" wrote in message ... Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Two meter troll wrote: dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet? How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough there? Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in there! Ocean City doesn't look to good either! Where the hell is he going? Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been the logical choice. Wilbur Hubbard Skip often makes unusual meandering course changes that make little sense to onlookers. It's even possible that he is just killing time until morning, because it would have been dark by the time he reached the Chesapeake Bay and he doesn't want to attempt it at night. Now that I look at what happened, and where he is now, I have concluded that the backtracking represents Lydia's watch! Could be, or maybe they broke something and being on that tack was the best way to fix it? Anyway, looks like he should be of Cape Hattaras late this afternoon or early this evening..... what's the weather doing there. I guess I shouldn't be so lazy and just go look it up myself. Cheers Marty You're obviously a novice sailor. No clue about weather patterns. Just look at a satellite loop of the Eastern seaboard and you will note it's all under the influence of a large high pressure area. The center of the high pressure area seems to be located in the area of the Great Lakes. As winds circulate clockwise with about a 15 degree anti-clockwise slant around the center of a high this tells me that in Skippy's area the wind is NNW veering to NNE as he gets further south and as the high moves off to the east. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:39:21 GMT, Steve wrote:
Short steep chop is no fun. You get used to it after fifty years of nothing but. Spirit Lake Iowa only has about three or four footers in a full gale. Square waves I call them. Shallow lakes are that way. Casady |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message ... wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:45:16 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:16:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Marty" wrote in message ... Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Marty wrote: Two meter troll wrote: dont know what he's doing; if he's headed in nags head would be a favorite. in his path and the air station there has good places to drop the hook. not only that but its sure better than the mud hole. Looks like maybe he's heading for Ocean City inlet? How about Tom's Cove? I don't have a detailed chart, is it deep enough there? Belay that, just downloaded the chart, no where near enough water in there! Ocean City doesn't look to good either! Where the hell is he going? Seems odd that's he's backtracking like that. Why backtrack? If he wanted to get to shore when he first changed course, Chesapeake Bay would have been the logical choice. Wilbur Hubbard Skip often makes unusual meandering course changes that make little sense to onlookers. It's even possible that he is just killing time until morning, because it would have been dark by the time he reached the Chesapeake Bay and he doesn't want to attempt it at night. Now that I look at what happened, and where he is now, I have concluded that the backtracking represents Lydia's watch! Could be, or maybe they broke something and being on that tack was the best way to fix it? Anyway, looks like he should be of Cape Hattaras late this afternoon or early this evening..... what's the weather doing there. I guess I shouldn't be so lazy and just go look it up myself. Cheers Marty You're obviously a novice sailor. No clue about weather patterns. And you seem to have a problem comprehending the written word, and at the same time have a rather remarkable ability to arrive at erroneous conclusions based on fantasy rather than fact. Cheers Marty |
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On 2008-10-04 06:47:28 -0400, Goofball_star_dot_etal
said: On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:51:52 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: http://www.octhebeach.com/info/ocean...ture-wind.html Skip is still writing the book about "Beating against the current whilst sleeping" Delaware Bay and Cape May are several days behind them. I just found the link below, which indicates about 5 knots from the NE. Good time for their cruising chute. Tonight and tomorrow through Cape Fear look great, building to 10-12 northerly. http://www.weather.gov/forecasts/wfo/sectors/mhxMarineDay.php#tabs I LIKE this product! Click on "marine" to obtain winds/waves, and mouse over the table cells for different predictions. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On 2008-10-04 12:03:41 -0400, Marty said:
Funny, but I was able to click the above link through its several quotings just now. This is the first I've tried tinyurl. try http://tinyurl.com/FlyingPigsPosition Seems to be something with my system,, Spot just refuses to load and present a chart properly with Firefox, if I use Internet Exploder, it works fine. Problably just another plot from Satan's spawn, aka, Bill Gates/Microsoft Corp. No, it's probably a slow system or some "stuff" you picked up. I am using Mac's Safari on a dual core running at 2 Ghz and a 5 mips FIOS line. Ain't nuttin slow here. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On 2008-10-04 16:13:03 -0400, Marty said:
wrote: Now that I look at what happened, and where he is now, I have concluded that the backtracking represents Lydia's watch! Looking at his present course and position, he would seem to trying to pass just west of buoy "QR", some 12 mi. or so ESE of Cape Hatteras, he's about 12 mi. NNE of that. The NOAA weather buoy at Diamond Shoals shows wind at 6kts from the north, so I suspect he's getting some assistance from the iron jenny. The one thing I can't do is figure out how far they've moved -- too lazy to do the math. Anyone know an easy way to estimate distances within SPOT? -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-10-04 16:13:03 -0400, Marty said: wrote: Now that I look at what happened, and where he is now, I have concluded that the backtracking represents Lydia's watch! Looking at his present course and position, he would seem to trying to pass just west of buoy "QR", some 12 mi. or so ESE of Cape Hatteras, he's about 12 mi. NNE of that. The NOAA weather buoy at Diamond Shoals shows wind at 6kts from the north, so I suspect he's getting some assistance from the iron jenny. The one thing I can't do is figure out how far they've moved -- too lazy to do the math. Anyone know an easy way to estimate distances within SPOT? When he's going pretty much due south, just look at the latitude numbers for two coordinates an hour apart, they're in decimal degrees and you can figure a tenth of degree is about 6 miles, close enough for government work. Cheers Marty |
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Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-10-04 12:03:41 -0400, Marty said: Funny, but I was able to click the above link through its several quotings just now. This is the first I've tried tinyurl. try http://tinyurl.com/FlyingPigsPosition Seems to be something with my system,, Spot just refuses to load and present a chart properly with Firefox, if I use Internet Exploder, it works fine. Problably just another plot from Satan's spawn, aka, Bill Gates/Microsoft Corp. No, it's probably a slow system or some "stuff" you picked up. I am using Mac's Safari on a dual core running at 2 Ghz and a 5 mips FIOS line. Ain't nuttin slow here. Well, it was pretty good for a laptop, two years ago. Toshiba Tecra, Centrino Duo..... Just rescanned, rebooted, still doesn't want to work with Firefox. Also, last info I have on Explorer from Skip is @ 8:23PM, anybody have newer? Cheers Marty |
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Hi, Y'all,
I'm amused that my float plan, apparently generally unread for content until lots of commentary led folks to go back and read, generated 64 entries, but all the daily logs only one. Even more amused that all the faux pas, stupid pet tricks, perhaps easily avoidable junk, and other very suggestive content in said logs, none. Not complaining - just amused. Glad you all had fun with it while we were out there doing it. Also glad that you've all seemed to enjoy our SPOT tracks; we've certainly enjoyed that folks like you and our families have some more immediate view of where we are. FWIW, West is having a killer sale on them at the moment; 100 instead of 150, a free year's subscription to the tracking service, and a carrying case, plus some other coupon freebie (don't recall if it's 30 bux or 30% for something). I was in there today buying some oilsorb sheets and saw it at the counter. We didn't get a case with ours, and happily paid our $150 plus the 100 subscription plus some bargain package on the other necessary item otherwise $50... Enjoying the rain and the wind in Charleston while we attend to some minor boat chores and electronics games with Larry, another of our angels. We'll be heading out either direct to MIA or with a stopover in Saint Simons Island to help repay one of our Saints for all his helps, when the weather's right. Immediate forecasts are fairly stiff, and not particularly good for our course of travel... -- L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) "Skip Gundlach" wrote in message ... Flying Pig Float Plan We're going from Sandy Hook, NJ, to Miami, preferably in one jump. Barring last minute warnings against it, we're leaving Wednesday Oct. 1, PM. Based on the recommendations from Chris Parker, our weather consultant, for favorable winds and seas, we'll go on a rhumb line, the outward curve through Barnegat Bay excepted, from Sandy Hook NJ to Cape Hatteras, the first large jump being about 330 miles. We'll avoid, as much as possible any adverse current as seen on these two sites: https://oceanography.navy.mil/legacy.../145/0-0-17/24 and /32, plus http://rads.tudelft.nl/gulfstream/, as our course will take us close to the Gulf Stream edge. Once past Hatteras, we'll take another 300+mile jump to the GA coast area, again to avoid the Gulf Stream. From there we'll take another rhumb line run of about 300 miles to about West Palm Beach, avoiding the Gulf Stream as seen in the above plus /16, the southern portion, which shows that a straight line would have us crossing the Gulf Stream's adverse current. Once in the West Palm Beach, or so, area, we'll have to stay close to shore, as the Gulf Stream is very close in that area. Sailmail (over SSB radio) contact will be available through my son David , in the event of emergency. You'll be able to track our progress on our SPOT shared page, http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3 nMe if you're interested. We'll also send "OK" messages via Spot on a daily basis to our primary family, as before. We intend daily reports via sailmail, as well as having our SPOT (http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3 nMe) on continuously during our passage. At this time weather, wind and currents all look very good for our passage, but in the event that changes, or there are equipment difficulties which suggest otherwise, we'll not hesitate to come in from wherever we are at the time. See our log listings for the daily reports... L8R Skip and Lydia (and Portia, of course!) Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) |
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On 2008-10-08 23:33:50 -0400, "Skip Gundlach" said:
Enjoying the rain and the wind in Charleston while we attend to some minor boat chores and electronics games with Larry, another of our angels. We'll be heading out either direct to MIA or with a stopover in Saint Simons Island to help repay one of our Saints for all his helps, when the weather's right. Immediate forecasts are fairly stiff, and not particularly good for our course of travel... I detect a bit of annoyance in what I snipped. I included the obviously ironic with what I see as appropriate considerations of your future plans. You have successfully gotten past the monster of the East Coast, Hataras (which I can't spell right without a chart except by accident). You're pretty much "home free" (nevermind that you live on your home). I am assured that you won't fall prey to parochial forecasts, will venture out only when the forecast benefits outweigh the forecast possible drawbacks. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:33:50 -0400, "Skip Gundlach"
wrote: Also glad that you've all seemed to enjoy our SPOT tracks; we've certainly enjoyed that folks like you and our families have some more immediate view of where we are. FWIW, West is having a killer sale on them at the moment; 100 instead of 150, a free year's subscription to the tracking service, and a carrying case, plus some other coupon freebie (don't recall if it's 30 bux or 30% for something). SPOT is impressive for its price/performance regardless of the occasional growing pains with the web site. Thanks for the sale info. I'm thinking of getting one at that price. If nothing else it would be useful as an inexpensive EPIRB backup, especially for remote dinghy expeditions in places like the Bahamas and Everglades where it is easy to get in trouble. |
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"Jere Lull" wrote in message news:2008100901052716807-jerelull@maccom... On 2008-10-08 23:33:50 -0400, "Skip Gundlach" said: Enjoying the rain and the wind in Charleston while we attend to some minor boat chores and electronics games with Larry, another of our angels. We'll be heading out either direct to MIA or with a stopover in Saint Simons Island to help repay one of our Saints for all his helps, when the weather's right. Immediate forecasts are fairly stiff, and not particularly good for our course of travel... I detect a bit of annoyance in what I snipped. I included the obviously ironic with what I see as appropriate considerations of your future plans. You have successfully gotten past the monster of the East Coast, Hataras (which I can't spell right without a chart except by accident). You're pretty much "home free" (nevermind that you live on your home). I am assured that you won't fall prey to parochial forecasts, will venture out only when the forecast benefits outweigh the forecast possible drawbacks. I doubt Skippy will ever be "home free" unless and until he changes his mental frame of mind from sailing on a schedule dictated by meeting lubbers ashore to sailing strictly according to the optimal weather conditions. As for weather forecasts, that's another very weak area in Skippy's grab bag of lubberly tricks. I have read where he employs a professional weather router. Sad! Weather prognostication is something any intelligent sailor can do with ease since the advent of all the weather information pages on the Internet. To rely upon some lubber ashore for your weather forecasts is to shirk a captain's personal responsibility to vessel and crew. This continued dependence upon land while claiming to be a sailor is not very smart. Skippy has come a long way but he has an even longer way to go before I consider him one of my peers. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:33:50 -0400, "Skip Gundlach" wrote: Also glad that you've all seemed to enjoy our SPOT tracks; we've certainly enjoyed that folks like you and our families have some more immediate view of where we are. FWIW, West is having a killer sale on them at the moment; 100 instead of 150, a free year's subscription to the tracking service, and a carrying case, plus some other coupon freebie (don't recall if it's 30 bux or 30% for something). SPOT is impressive for its price/performance regardless of the occasional growing pains with the web site. Thanks for the sale info. I'm thinking of getting one at that price. If nothing else it would be useful as an inexpensive EPIRB backup, especially for remote dinghy expeditions in places like the Bahamas and Everglades where it is easy to get in trouble. I was thinking of getting a SPOT too but I decided not to. I don't want to put people like Skippy or the rest of you to shame should you look in on my progress and note I regularly do 200 mile days in a vessel with a much shorter LWL. Skippy only manages about half that with a 45-footer. I think the difference is I know how to work the wind and currents and Skippy tends to work against them to meet lubberly schedules. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:33:50 -0400, "Skip Gundlach" wrote: Also glad that you've all seemed to enjoy our SPOT tracks; we've certainly enjoyed that folks like you and our families have some more immediate view of where we are. FWIW, West is having a killer sale on them at the moment; 100 instead of 150, a free year's subscription to the tracking service, and a carrying case, plus some other coupon freebie (don't recall if it's 30 bux or 30% for something). SPOT is impressive for its price/performance regardless of the occasional growing pains with the web site. Thanks for the sale info. I'm thinking of getting one at that price. If nothing else it would be useful as an inexpensive EPIRB backup, especially for remote dinghy expeditions in places like the Bahamas and Everglades where it is easy to get in trouble. I was thinking of getting a SPOT too but I decided not to. You found out that there's no 12VDC available on your Lazy Boy? Cheers Martin |
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On 2008-10-09 11:16:47 -0400, said:
I was thinking of getting a SPOT too but I decided not to. I don't want to put people like Skippy or the rest of you to shame should you look in on my progress and note I regularly do 200 mile days in a vessel with a much shorter LWL. Skippy only manages about half that with a 45-footer. I think the difference is I know how to work the wind and currents and Skippy tends to work against them to meet lubberly schedules. Wilbur Hubbard So, you have one of the smaller Winnebagos? That's the only way Wilbur could guarantee 8+ knots with a LWL below 68' outside of the roaring 40s. Real world, days of hull-speed or greater are rare and not necessarily the best memories for cruisers. They're more likely to be something to recall, then avoid. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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"Skip Gundlach" wrote in news:gcju2u$4fb$1
@aioe.org: We'll be heading out either direct to MIA or with a stopover in Saint Simons Island to help repay one of our Saints for all his helps, when the weather's right. I don't need to get off at St Simons. I'm good all the way to Key West! Larry |
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Larry wrote in news:Xns9B32CF3A1B624noonehomecom@
74.209.131.10: "Skip Gundlach" wrote in news:gcju2u$4fb$1 @aioe.org: We'll be heading out either direct to MIA or with a stopover in Saint Simons Island to help repay one of our Saints for all his helps, when the weather's right. I don't need to get off at St Simons. I'm good all the way to Key West! Larry (crickets chirping......a train way in the distance) |
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