On Sep 8, 5:40*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

You've really got to admire parents who would let their child do something
like this:
Roger Long


I fear for his safety. I view his mom and dad as just another in the mold of
those beauty pageant parents who whore out their young daughters and live
vicariously through them.
Wilbur Hubbard


After reading the Blog this quote really sent a chill up my spine:

"...It was the opening of the AYSO soccer season yesterday and as a
coach for Jessie's team (U10 ) and assistant coach for Toby's team
(U12) the games provided a good distraction for the family from are
growing concerns..."

Having put a child, now 21, through school and club sports and who is
now on a full ride athletic schorarship at a NCAA school ( NCAA Player
of the week and game starter) I can say I met those kind of parents. I
have spent 10,000s of hours in mini vans and sitting on hard benches
cheering next to them. I know those kind of parents. They can not stay
out of the life of their children and intrude and controll to the
point they dont even let other people coach their child's team. Such
is Zacs dad who must coach both his other kids teams. Zac's dad MUST
have total controll.

The problem is the kid never learns SELF motivation, independence,
self reliance, or develops decission making. For example the constant
parent micro managing of this circumnavigation. The vast majority of
kids of Pagent Parents Ive seen are continually forced into achievment
and when they become adults typically turn into slackers becasue they
have never develped INTRINSIC motivation. Why, cause momy and daddy
have always been there pushing.

Passion and motivation are not qualities whipped into a kid. Passion
comes from within. Normal parent plant the seeds of interest. Some
will never germinate but others will.

Wilbur hit the nail on the head. Zac's dad is a controll freak. I too
fear for Zac and admonish his dad. I live by the words I saw on a T
shirt a coach was waring at some tourney....... "They Play.... You
Cheer..... I Coach....."

Bob
Proud Dad of a sucessfull adult child who still enjoys sports and is
independent and self motivated.

Bob wrote in news:32445f78-e4dd-4a5d-99f0-4379ff79aac9
@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

Why, cause momy and daddy
have always been there pushing.


My parents were simple country people who never understood anything I did
that included "wires and things" since I was about 8. My dad didn't try
too hard to direct my life as long as I kept his TV running to distract
him. That TV was JOB ONE in my shop.

I diverted his attention away from his unused "shop" in the garage long
enough to move his stuff to a corner and build the ham radio station onto
his cleaned off work bench. It was about 7 months before he needed to use
his workbench for something I've forgotten before he noticed...(c;

I left the keys to his shop on the table the day I was forced to join the
Navy to avoid being drafted for cannon fodder in Vietnam. He was at work
when they wisked me away to be sworn in before the postman brought my
mother my draft notice. I made it.

Once gone, they pretty much dumped all my "wires and things" into the trash
truck. I was furious when I got home on Navy leave....

About the only other thing he said to me was how bad my grades were in the
boring central school system in the town, except for science and to a
lesser extent math. Rote memorization of history dates Mr Scarry was
fascinated with seemed worthless when you had been talking to the
DXpedition on some South Pacific island, on 6 bands, until 3AM, filling out
the QSL cards to send them at breakfast just before school. To all but 3
teachers in high school, once I got there, ham radio or electronics was as
foreign to them as speaking Martian....(c; They expected me to learn THEIR
favorite subject, but were under no pressure, like I was, to learn MINE!

Skip is approaching Lon-gylund on Spot right now. Click up the Hybrid view
and you can see all the SAND BARS on the bottom.....