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Evan Gatehouse April 14th 04 05:59 PM

What's best to remove oil?
 
I'm just in the midst of buying a used Yanmar 3GM30 engine (I got a deal :).
The mechanic I hired to check it out pointed out that the oil pan has NO
drain plug! He did mention that he had drilled and tapped a few Yanmar's
oil pans for a drain fitting to drain it out.

Do you know of anybody else that has done this - I suspect that the oil pan
may have a thicker spot / dummy plug for just this operation?


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BCC April 14th 04 07:03 PM

What's best to remove oil?
 
3 possible methods - it any case the oil needs to be at operating
temps to make it easier/faster to get thru a tube

- vacuum sucker like the ones someone else suggested - are relatively
hard to clean and store - I used one for years before the pump quit.

- a pump built for the engine - available as an option for some
Perkins, etc - convenient - stays on engine, no cleanup, would take
many hand strokes for my 8 qts

- a 12 volt pump either vane or rubber impeller or some positive
displacement - I use an old Groco vane pump that I had left over from
another project. Works great. They aren't cheap. 2 big battery clips
and 6 ft of wire. Make sure it's oil compatible. Diesel fuel pumps
would be OK as another said - don't know about lifetime.

Get some cheap 1/4" poly tubing from Home Depot - whatever length you
need and 1 ft of the 3/8" size - it's ID fits perfectly over the 1/4"
OD - so when you're finished - coil the tubing and seal the oil
remains in the tube by sticking both ends of the 1/4 into the 2 ends
of the 3/8 - eliminates drips and oozes.

Best part about the Groco is that it's reversible - recently changed
the 90 wt gear lube in my windwass - sucked out the old and pumped new
stuff back in without spilling a drop.


On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:41:19 GMT, wrote:

Hi,

What's the best thing for the money for removing oil
from a motor in the bilge? I bought a drill pump, and
it worked okay. Once! After that it would never work
again. Someone told me about using a basting squeeze
bulb, and that worked great getting some lube out of
a transfer case, but it took quite a while and a lot of
times filling and emptying it. It would take forever to
empty a motor of oil, unless there's a quart size or
something.

Thanks for any suggestions,
David




BCC April 14th 04 07:03 PM

What's best to remove oil?
 
3 possible methods - it any case the oil needs to be at operating
temps to make it easier/faster to get thru a tube

- vacuum sucker like the ones someone else suggested - are relatively
hard to clean and store - I used one for years before the pump quit.

- a pump built for the engine - available as an option for some
Perkins, etc - convenient - stays on engine, no cleanup, would take
many hand strokes for my 8 qts

- a 12 volt pump either vane or rubber impeller or some positive
displacement - I use an old Groco vane pump that I had left over from
another project. Works great. They aren't cheap. 2 big battery clips
and 6 ft of wire. Make sure it's oil compatible. Diesel fuel pumps
would be OK as another said - don't know about lifetime.

Get some cheap 1/4" poly tubing from Home Depot - whatever length you
need and 1 ft of the 3/8" size - it's ID fits perfectly over the 1/4"
OD - so when you're finished - coil the tubing and seal the oil
remains in the tube by sticking both ends of the 1/4 into the 2 ends
of the 3/8 - eliminates drips and oozes.

Best part about the Groco is that it's reversible - recently changed
the 90 wt gear lube in my windwass - sucked out the old and pumped new
stuff back in without spilling a drop.


On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:41:19 GMT, wrote:

Hi,

What's the best thing for the money for removing oil
from a motor in the bilge? I bought a drill pump, and
it worked okay. Once! After that it would never work
again. Someone told me about using a basting squeeze
bulb, and that worked great getting some lube out of
a transfer case, but it took quite a while and a lot of
times filling and emptying it. It would take forever to
empty a motor of oil, unless there's a quart size or
something.

Thanks for any suggestions,
David




Keith April 15th 04 12:10 AM

What's best to remove oil?
 
Jabsco makes a pump mounted on a plastic bucket that works great. I had to
change it to a 5 gallon bucket because my diesel holds 14 qts., but that was
no problem. It works much better than anything else I've seen or tried. As
others mentioned, you can build your own as well, just make sure the pump is
rated for oil and/or petroleum products. If you're in a gasoline
environment, be sure it's explosion proof.

--


Keith
__
Never test the depth of the water with both feet.
wrote in message
...
Hi,

What's the best thing for the money for removing oil
from a motor in the bilge? I bought a drill pump, and
it worked okay. Once! After that it would never work
again. Someone told me about using a basting squeeze
bulb, and that worked great getting some lube out of
a transfer case, but it took quite a while and a lot of
times filling and emptying it. It would take forever to
empty a motor of oil, unless there's a quart size or
something.

Thanks for any suggestions,
David




Keith April 15th 04 12:10 AM

What's best to remove oil?
 
Jabsco makes a pump mounted on a plastic bucket that works great. I had to
change it to a 5 gallon bucket because my diesel holds 14 qts., but that was
no problem. It works much better than anything else I've seen or tried. As
others mentioned, you can build your own as well, just make sure the pump is
rated for oil and/or petroleum products. If you're in a gasoline
environment, be sure it's explosion proof.

--


Keith
__
Never test the depth of the water with both feet.
wrote in message
...
Hi,

What's the best thing for the money for removing oil
from a motor in the bilge? I bought a drill pump, and
it worked okay. Once! After that it would never work
again. Someone told me about using a basting squeeze
bulb, and that worked great getting some lube out of
a transfer case, but it took quite a while and a lot of
times filling and emptying it. It would take forever to
empty a motor of oil, unless there's a quart size or
something.

Thanks for any suggestions,
David




Mark Browne April 15th 04 03:23 AM

What's best to remove oil?
 

wrote in message
...
Hi,

What's the best thing for the money for removing oil
from a motor in the bilge? I bought a drill pump, and
it worked okay. Once! After that it would never work
again. Someone told me about using a basting squeeze
bulb, and that worked great getting some lube out of
a transfer case, but it took quite a while and a lot of
times filling and emptying it. It would take forever to
empty a motor of oil, unless there's a quart size or
something.

Thanks for any suggestions,
David


For the last 20 years I have used a suction gun for this sort of problem.

They come in a variety of sizes and are good for getting in tight spaces.

See:
http://www.hartleige.com/suction-guns.htm
Note the liter capacity unit.

or
http://www.toolking.com/performance/view.asp?id=563

Mark Browne



Mark Browne April 15th 04 03:23 AM

What's best to remove oil?
 

wrote in message
...
Hi,

What's the best thing for the money for removing oil
from a motor in the bilge? I bought a drill pump, and
it worked okay. Once! After that it would never work
again. Someone told me about using a basting squeeze
bulb, and that worked great getting some lube out of
a transfer case, but it took quite a while and a lot of
times filling and emptying it. It would take forever to
empty a motor of oil, unless there's a quart size or
something.

Thanks for any suggestions,
David


For the last 20 years I have used a suction gun for this sort of problem.

They come in a variety of sizes and are good for getting in tight spaces.

See:
http://www.hartleige.com/suction-guns.htm
Note the liter capacity unit.

or
http://www.toolking.com/performance/view.asp?id=563

Mark Browne



Scott Downey April 15th 04 11:58 PM

What's best to remove oil?
 
Topsider pump works well but the oil must be hot to flow.
My drain pan plugs have never been out of the engines.


wrote in message
...
Hi,

What's the best thing for the money for removing oil
from a motor in the bilge? I bought a drill pump, and
it worked okay. Once! After that it would never work
again. Someone told me about using a basting squeeze
bulb, and that worked great getting some lube out of
a transfer case, but it took quite a while and a lot of
times filling and emptying it. It would take forever to
empty a motor of oil, unless there's a quart size or
something.

Thanks for any suggestions,
David




Scott Downey April 15th 04 11:58 PM

What's best to remove oil?
 
Topsider pump works well but the oil must be hot to flow.
My drain pan plugs have never been out of the engines.


wrote in message
...
Hi,

What's the best thing for the money for removing oil
from a motor in the bilge? I bought a drill pump, and
it worked okay. Once! After that it would never work
again. Someone told me about using a basting squeeze
bulb, and that worked great getting some lube out of
a transfer case, but it took quite a while and a lot of
times filling and emptying it. It would take forever to
empty a motor of oil, unless there's a quart size or
something.

Thanks for any suggestions,
David




Grant April 16th 04 03:01 AM

What's best to remove oil?
 
I use the Pela Oil Extractor. 6 Litre capacity with auto shutoff, handy pour
spout, about $100 CDN.
No muss, no fuss.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Jabsco makes a pump mounted on a plastic bucket that works great. I had to
change it to a 5 gallon bucket because my diesel holds 14 qts., but that

was
no problem. It works much better than anything else I've seen or tried. As
others mentioned, you can build your own as well, just make sure the pump

is
rated for oil and/or petroleum products. If you're in a gasoline
environment, be sure it's explosion proof.

--


Keith
__
Never test the depth of the water with both feet.
wrote in message
...
Hi,

What's the best thing for the money for removing oil
from a motor in the bilge? I bought a drill pump, and
it worked okay. Once! After that it would never work
again. Someone told me about using a basting squeeze
bulb, and that worked great getting some lube out of
a transfer case, but it took quite a while and a lot of
times filling and emptying it. It would take forever to
empty a motor of oil, unless there's a quart size or
something.

Thanks for any suggestions,
David







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