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Cheshire April 12th 04 09:42 PM

ICW mustache
 
Some time ago, I read here that lemon juice would remove the ICW stains, and
it does work. However, I wonder if it leaves the wax on the boat. Anyone
know? Any other, better methods?

Thanks.



Doug Dotson April 12th 04 10:52 PM

ICW mustache
 
Use a product called On & Off. That's what the marina here uses
and it works great. Don't know if it strips the wax but is is pretty
powerful stuff. I believe it contains Muriatic Acid among other things.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cheshire" wrote in message
news:d8Dec.309$ec1.219@okepread01...
Some time ago, I read here that lemon juice would remove the ICW stains,

and
it does work. However, I wonder if it leaves the wax on the boat. Anyone
know? Any other, better methods?

Thanks.





Doug Dotson April 12th 04 10:52 PM

ICW mustache
 
Use a product called On & Off. That's what the marina here uses
and it works great. Don't know if it strips the wax but is is pretty
powerful stuff. I believe it contains Muriatic Acid among other things.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cheshire" wrote in message
news:d8Dec.309$ec1.219@okepread01...
Some time ago, I read here that lemon juice would remove the ICW stains,

and
it does work. However, I wonder if it leaves the wax on the boat. Anyone
know? Any other, better methods?

Thanks.





Scott Vernon April 13th 04 12:25 AM

ICW mustache
 
Muriatic & Oxcylic acid IIRC. Works great. Dock hand let me use some of his
last week. I'm pretty sure it takes the wax off.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
Use a product called On & Off. That's what the marina here uses
and it works great. Don't know if it strips the wax but is is pretty
powerful stuff. I believe it contains Muriatic Acid among other things.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cheshire" wrote in message
news:d8Dec.309$ec1.219@okepread01...
Some time ago, I read here that lemon juice would remove the ICW stains,

and
it does work. However, I wonder if it leaves the wax on the boat. Anyone
know? Any other, better methods?

Thanks.






Scott Vernon April 13th 04 12:25 AM

ICW mustache
 
Muriatic & Oxcylic acid IIRC. Works great. Dock hand let me use some of his
last week. I'm pretty sure it takes the wax off.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
Use a product called On & Off. That's what the marina here uses
and it works great. Don't know if it strips the wax but is is pretty
powerful stuff. I believe it contains Muriatic Acid among other things.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cheshire" wrote in message
news:d8Dec.309$ec1.219@okepread01...
Some time ago, I read here that lemon juice would remove the ICW stains,

and
it does work. However, I wonder if it leaves the wax on the boat. Anyone
know? Any other, better methods?

Thanks.






Phil April 13th 04 02:31 AM

ICW mustache
 
Use "Sno-Bol". toilet cleaner. It works great and a lot less money than the
boat store products. The moustache just washes right off after. It works
like "On-Off" and makes streaks though bottom paint if your not carefull.
Phil
"Cheshire" wrote in message
news:d8Dec.309$ec1.219@okepread01...
Some time ago, I read here that lemon juice would remove the ICW stains,

and
it does work. However, I wonder if it leaves the wax on the boat. Anyone
know? Any other, better methods?

Thanks.





Phil April 13th 04 02:31 AM

ICW mustache
 
Use "Sno-Bol". toilet cleaner. It works great and a lot less money than the
boat store products. The moustache just washes right off after. It works
like "On-Off" and makes streaks though bottom paint if your not carefull.
Phil
"Cheshire" wrote in message
news:d8Dec.309$ec1.219@okepread01...
Some time ago, I read here that lemon juice would remove the ICW stains,

and
it does work. However, I wonder if it leaves the wax on the boat. Anyone
know? Any other, better methods?

Thanks.





Rich Hampel April 13th 04 01:31 PM

ICW mustache
 
The ICW 'moustache' is mostly tannin and iron stains. Best removed
with a solution of oxalic acid (wood bleach). If you seal the
gelcoat with a good coat of wax then you wont get a moustache. If you
have a moustache it means you need to bleach and then wax the gelcoat.
Acid grade toilet cleaners will do the same thing - dissolve the iron
and tannins. Oxalic is cheaper.


n article , Phil
wrote:

Use "Sno-Bol". toilet cleaner. It works great and a lot less money than the
boat store products. The moustache just washes right off after. It works
like "On-Off" and makes streaks though bottom paint if your not carefull.
Phil
"Cheshire" wrote in message
news:d8Dec.309$ec1.219@okepread01...
Some time ago, I read here that lemon juice would remove the ICW stains,

and
it does work. However, I wonder if it leaves the wax on the boat. Anyone
know? Any other, better methods?

Thanks.





Rich Hampel April 13th 04 01:31 PM

ICW mustache
 
The ICW 'moustache' is mostly tannin and iron stains. Best removed
with a solution of oxalic acid (wood bleach). If you seal the
gelcoat with a good coat of wax then you wont get a moustache. If you
have a moustache it means you need to bleach and then wax the gelcoat.
Acid grade toilet cleaners will do the same thing - dissolve the iron
and tannins. Oxalic is cheaper.


n article , Phil
wrote:

Use "Sno-Bol". toilet cleaner. It works great and a lot less money than the
boat store products. The moustache just washes right off after. It works
like "On-Off" and makes streaks though bottom paint if your not carefull.
Phil
"Cheshire" wrote in message
news:d8Dec.309$ec1.219@okepread01...
Some time ago, I read here that lemon juice would remove the ICW stains,

and
it does work. However, I wonder if it leaves the wax on the boat. Anyone
know? Any other, better methods?

Thanks.





Cheshire April 13th 04 02:05 PM

ICW mustache
 
To all who replied -

Thanks for the info. The thing is that I had the hull waxed before leaving,
and it stained anyway. Maybe the wax needs to be applied heavier ?? Also,
whatever I use to remove the stain, I don't want it to cut through the was.
I wonder if oxalic acid, On-Off, lemon juice or the toilet bowl cleaner
would leave the wax or take it off ?

GC




Cheshire April 13th 04 02:05 PM

ICW mustache
 
To all who replied -

Thanks for the info. The thing is that I had the hull waxed before leaving,
and it stained anyway. Maybe the wax needs to be applied heavier ?? Also,
whatever I use to remove the stain, I don't want it to cut through the was.
I wonder if oxalic acid, On-Off, lemon juice or the toilet bowl cleaner
would leave the wax or take it off ?

GC




Rich Hampel April 13th 04 02:53 PM

ICW mustache
 
If you have a moustache, the wax is long gone.
Dont just wipe-on/wipe-off the wax when applying. Use a wet pad to
apply and 'push' the wax INTO the gelcoat by rubbing in small circles,
then reapply then reapply until you can see at a low incidence angle to
the hull that the wax has completely saturated the gelcoat. .....
"burnishing" the wax as you apply. When looking at a low incidence
angle (almost parallel to the surface), if the surface looks 'spotty',
then you havent 'pushed' enough wax INTO the gelcoat to make a seal.
Now that Collinite "Fleetwax" is available in liquid form, my
application times are much less than with paste wax. Collinite seems to
last much longer than the 'others' for some reason.

In article sxRec.403$ec1.160@okepread01, Cheshire
wrote:

To all who replied -

Thanks for the info. The thing is that I had the hull waxed before leaving,
and it stained anyway. Maybe the wax needs to be applied heavier ?? Also,
whatever I use to remove the stain, I don't want it to cut through the was.
I wonder if oxalic acid, On-Off, lemon juice or the toilet bowl cleaner
would leave the wax or take it off ?

GC




Rich Hampel April 13th 04 02:53 PM

ICW mustache
 
If you have a moustache, the wax is long gone.
Dont just wipe-on/wipe-off the wax when applying. Use a wet pad to
apply and 'push' the wax INTO the gelcoat by rubbing in small circles,
then reapply then reapply until you can see at a low incidence angle to
the hull that the wax has completely saturated the gelcoat. .....
"burnishing" the wax as you apply. When looking at a low incidence
angle (almost parallel to the surface), if the surface looks 'spotty',
then you havent 'pushed' enough wax INTO the gelcoat to make a seal.
Now that Collinite "Fleetwax" is available in liquid form, my
application times are much less than with paste wax. Collinite seems to
last much longer than the 'others' for some reason.

In article sxRec.403$ec1.160@okepread01, Cheshire
wrote:

To all who replied -

Thanks for the info. The thing is that I had the hull waxed before leaving,
and it stained anyway. Maybe the wax needs to be applied heavier ?? Also,
whatever I use to remove the stain, I don't want it to cut through the was.
I wonder if oxalic acid, On-Off, lemon juice or the toilet bowl cleaner
would leave the wax or take it off ?

GC




Chuck Baier April 13th 04 11:22 PM

ICW mustache
 
GC the only boats I have seen that won't get the beard are new boats
with brand new gel-coat and awl-grip hulls. I haven't seen a wax yet
that will prevent it if you run the ICW for any distance. A product
sold at Home Depot called RustAid is great for removing it and minimal
intrusion to the paint or gel-coat. Works great for other things like
rust streaks from hardware. It doesn't strip off the sealer for Awl
but I don't know about wax.


"Cheshire" wrote in message news:sxRec.403$ec1.160@okepread01...
To all who replied -

Thanks for the info. The thing is that I had the hull waxed before leaving,
and it stained anyway. Maybe the wax needs to be applied heavier ?? Also,
whatever I use to remove the stain, I don't want it to cut through the was.
I wonder if oxalic acid, On-Off, lemon juice or the toilet bowl cleaner
would leave the wax or take it off ?

GC


Chuck Baier April 13th 04 11:22 PM

ICW mustache
 
GC the only boats I have seen that won't get the beard are new boats
with brand new gel-coat and awl-grip hulls. I haven't seen a wax yet
that will prevent it if you run the ICW for any distance. A product
sold at Home Depot called RustAid is great for removing it and minimal
intrusion to the paint or gel-coat. Works great for other things like
rust streaks from hardware. It doesn't strip off the sealer for Awl
but I don't know about wax.


"Cheshire" wrote in message news:sxRec.403$ec1.160@okepread01...
To all who replied -

Thanks for the info. The thing is that I had the hull waxed before leaving,
and it stained anyway. Maybe the wax needs to be applied heavier ?? Also,
whatever I use to remove the stain, I don't want it to cut through the was.
I wonder if oxalic acid, On-Off, lemon juice or the toilet bowl cleaner
would leave the wax or take it off ?

GC


Florida Keyz April 14th 04 02:54 AM

ICW mustache
 
Be proud of that mustach, you earned it.!

Florida Keyz April 14th 04 02:54 AM

ICW mustache
 
Be proud of that mustach, you earned it.!

Keith April 14th 04 12:33 PM

ICW mustache
 
If you have that moustache, you probably don't have much wax anyway, or it
was put on over a porous surface that needed compounding first.

The best wax I've ever seen is Collinite's fleetwax paste. Lasts longer than
anything else I've ever tried, and Powerboat Reports agreed when they tested
a bunch of waxes.

Pretty much anything that's going to take off that stain will take off the
wax with it, if there was any left to begin with.

--


Keith
__
Boss spelled backwards is 'double-SOB'
"Cheshire" wrote in message
news:sxRec.403$ec1.160@okepread01...
To all who replied -

Thanks for the info. The thing is that I had the hull waxed before

leaving,
and it stained anyway. Maybe the wax needs to be applied heavier ?? Also,
whatever I use to remove the stain, I don't want it to cut through the

was.
I wonder if oxalic acid, On-Off, lemon juice or the toilet bowl cleaner
would leave the wax or take it off ?

GC






Keith April 14th 04 12:33 PM

ICW mustache
 
If you have that moustache, you probably don't have much wax anyway, or it
was put on over a porous surface that needed compounding first.

The best wax I've ever seen is Collinite's fleetwax paste. Lasts longer than
anything else I've ever tried, and Powerboat Reports agreed when they tested
a bunch of waxes.

Pretty much anything that's going to take off that stain will take off the
wax with it, if there was any left to begin with.

--


Keith
__
Boss spelled backwards is 'double-SOB'
"Cheshire" wrote in message
news:sxRec.403$ec1.160@okepread01...
To all who replied -

Thanks for the info. The thing is that I had the hull waxed before

leaving,
and it stained anyway. Maybe the wax needs to be applied heavier ?? Also,
whatever I use to remove the stain, I don't want it to cut through the

was.
I wonder if oxalic acid, On-Off, lemon juice or the toilet bowl cleaner
would leave the wax or take it off ?

GC







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