On Aug 22, 12:09*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Quick Question?
How would you know anything about real sailing and commerical
ventures?
*IIRC you had a useless 10gt near coastal and never made a dime with
it. If I'm wrong correct me.

You're wrong - consider yourself corrected.

I think that its typical of your total sea experience. You can make a
near perfect score on a book test but you have never been anywhere
sailing.

You're wrong again - consider yourself corrected again.

Also IIRC that poor female has a 100 ton oceans and has earned a
living with it.

Sounds to me like she makes a living faking sprained ankles because she
can't take a few 10-15 foot seas. Sounds to me she knows how to make a wimp
out of her husband. She's got him right where she want's him - wrapped right
around her finger. Yes, it's called being pussy-whipped, Joe!

How many commerical boats have you operated Wilbur? *None.

Wrong again - consider yourself corrected for the third time . . .

*I think it's funny as hell the way me and Skip and Zac intimidate
you so.

Intimidate? Bwaaaaaahahahhahahahahhhahahahhah! I guess a sure sign of
intimidation in your book is when somebody laughs their ass off at you? And,
at any other so-called sailors who put the bragging first and the successful
voyage as an afterthought.

And Wilbur, you're such a know-it-all please explain what happened to
these boats *http://www.cargolaw.com/presentations_casualties.php

It's a couple hundred the last few mo, but since you can explain so
much about the prematurely abandoned Red Cloud and her inept
crew you can tells us all about these people.

That's right, Joe, go ahead and try to make yourself feel better by citing
plenty of examples of failure. But, you know in your heart that no matter
how many other so-called sailors fail it doesn't make your own failure
acceptable. That dog don't hunt, boy!

I think Dale had you in mind Wilbur when talking about the sure thing
boat. "The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is
willing to do and dare. The sure-thing boat never gets far from
shore."

Sorry but since these admonitions come from somebody whose boat is now
laying somewhere on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexica a couple hundred miles
offshore after being ill-advisedly and prematurely abandoned because of a
case of cold feet and an amateur rescue mentality attitude, I just have to
enquire, "Where's the beef?"

If you really wish to redeem yourself after your humiliating failure
compounded by all your beforehand bragging you have but one choice. That is
just shut your pie hole next time you attempt such a thing. Don't say a word
about it until and unless you get the job done next time you try. I, Wilbur
Hubbard, don't expect there will never be a foundering and I know full well
that an occasional foundering may well be due to an 'act of God' but I never
will accept a foundering because of crew ignorance, inexperience and fear
which is the only reason Red Cloud foundered. The state of the wind and sea
were nothing exceptional and the conditions were such that any real seaman
would have taken them in stride.

Wilbur Hubbard

Gee Nealbur, could you please cite one example of Joe "bragging"
perhaps you mistake working on boats as bragging? Not sure where you
got that, I looked and could not find it.

Again you're a liar as usual. You know you have never used your
licences for anything other than wall paper.
Care to provide proof? Naaaa just dream up another lie, say that
beneth you or something, we all know you are a failure at anything to
do with sailing.

Your boat is a perfect example of your failing to do well at
anything. No one in his right mind would live on such a small little
cheap flimsy boat with a broken boom and **** bucket for a head unless
thats the best they could do.

Fred

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Gee Wilbur, could you please cite one example of Joe "bragging"
perhaps you mistake working on boats as bragging? Not sure where you
got that, I looked and could not find it.

I guess you don't remember the boasting about running a OSV to the rigs and
all the rough weather your were required to slog through all the time
delivering supplies? Though you tried to act like you were the captain it
was evident you were just a lowly deck hand.



Again you're a liar as usual. You know you have never used your
licences for anything other than wall paper.
Care to provide proof? Naaaa just dream up another lie, say that
beneth you or something, we all know you are a failure at anything to
do with sailing.

Moi? A liar? Perish the thought! It's just that my personal boat work
history is nobody's business but my own or potential employer's which there
will be no more of since I have officially retired having made my fortune.

Never had a sinking. Never had an abandonment. Never abided a weak crew.
Never failed to complete a voyage. Never felt the need to share all the
mundane details. Unlike the majority of those these days who call themselves
sailors, I don't require an audience. Sailing is the means and the end, the
alpha and the omega and all you wannabes be damned!

You're no sailor until you understand this.

Tonnage??? Pahteuy! Means nothing if you can't even reach your destination
without foundering. A 10 GT captain who makes a successful passage is 100
times the sailor as the 1000 GT captain who fails to complete the voyage and
founders.


Your boat is a perfect example of your failing to do well at
anything. No one in his right mind would live on such a small little
cheap flimsy boat with a broken boom and **** bucket for a head unless
thats the best they could do.

You must be thinking about the world famous Capt. Neal. He was a fictional
character. I am Wilbur Hubbard and I sail an Allied Seawind 32 ketch.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:41:41 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Gee Wilbur, could you please cite one example of Joe "bragging"
perhaps you mistake working on boats as bragging? Not sure where you
got that, I looked and could not find it.

I guess you don't remember the boasting about running a OSV to the rigs and
all the rough weather your were required to slog through all the time
delivering supplies? Though you tried to act like you were the captain it
was evident you were just a lowly deck hand.



Again you're a liar as usual. You know you have never used your
licences for anything other than wall paper.
Care to provide proof? Naaaa just dream up another lie, say that
beneth you or something, we all know you are a failure at anything to
do with sailing.

Moi? A liar? Perish the thought! It's just that my personal boat work
history is nobody's business but my own or potential employer's which there
will be no more of since I have officially retired having made my fortune.

Never had a sinking. Never had an abandonment. Never abided a weak crew.
Never failed to complete a voyage. Never felt the need to share all the
mundane details. Unlike the majority of those these days who call themselves
sailors, I don't require an audience. Sailing is the means and the end, the
alpha and the omega and all you wannabes be damned!

You're no sailor until you understand this.

Tonnage??? Pahteuy! Means nothing if you can't even reach your destination
without foundering. A 10 GT captain who makes a successful passage is 100
times the sailor as the 1000 GT captain who fails to complete the voyage and
founders.


Your boat is a perfect example of your failing to do well at
anything. No one in his right mind would live on such a small little
cheap flimsy boat with a broken boom and **** bucket for a head unless
thats the best they could do.

You must be thinking about the world famous Capt. Neal. He was a fictional
character. I am Wilbur Hubbard and I sail an Allied Seawind 32 ketch.

Wilbur Hubbard


Kind of like the guy bragging about his two circumnavigatins on hi 68
foot boat, isn't it? ****head!