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I believe I mentioned WALBRO as the pump in use. Not sure what
technology it uses. Doug s/v Callista "Steve" wrote in message ... "Kelton Joyner" wrote in message .. . Unless you have isolation valves to allow servicing of a parallel pump, series works just as well for backup. fuel wil flow through the unpowered pump. Depends on the type of pump. A possitive displacement pump (roller, vane, etc.) will block the flow from the other pump.. This isn't a problem with a diaphram or centrifigal it would work, however would subject the idle pump components to pressure or could be a source of leakage once it failed. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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![]() "Kelton Joyner" wrote in message .. . Unless you have isolation valves to allow servicing of a parallel pump, series works just as well for backup. fuel wil flow through the unpowered pump. Depends on the type of pump. A possitive displacement pump (roller, vane, etc.) will block the flow from the other pump.. This isn't a problem with a diaphram or centrifigal it would work, however would subject the idle pump components to pressure or could be a source of leakage once it failed. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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The Walbro is a 'wobble plate' diaphragm and therefore not suitable for
series installation. If the wobble plate stops in a position such that one pump is blocked then both pumps will not flow. For parallel installation application - a simple thumb-cock on the outlet of each pump would be sufficient. In article , Kelton Joyner wrote: Unless you have isolation valves to allow servicing of a parallel pump, series works just as well for backup. fuel wil flow through the unpowered pump. Kelton W4IND s/v Isle Escape Larry W4CSC wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in : That begs the question why are you going to put two pumps in parallel if you only want to run one at a time? Steve Backup? Larry W4CSC |
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That is interesting because the electric pump which is now
used for priming is installed in series with the mechanical lift pump. Never had any problem with things not working. This setup was done by a reputable outfit and has been done on hundreds of boat from what I understand. Doug s/v Callista "Rich Hampel" wrote in message ... The Walbro is a 'wobble plate' diaphragm and therefore not suitable for series installation. If the wobble plate stops in a position such that one pump is blocked then both pumps will not flow. For parallel installation application - a simple thumb-cock on the outlet of each pump would be sufficient. In article , Kelton Joyner wrote: Unless you have isolation valves to allow servicing of a parallel pump, series works just as well for backup. fuel wil flow through the unpowered pump. Kelton W4IND s/v Isle Escape Larry W4CSC wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in : That begs the question why are you going to put two pumps in parallel if you only want to run one at a time? Steve Backup? Larry W4CSC |
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That is interesting because the electric pump which is now
used for priming is installed in series with the mechanical lift pump. Never had any problem with things not working. This setup was done by a reputable outfit and has been done on hundreds of boat from what I understand. Doug s/v Callista "Rich Hampel" wrote in message ... The Walbro is a 'wobble plate' diaphragm and therefore not suitable for series installation. If the wobble plate stops in a position such that one pump is blocked then both pumps will not flow. For parallel installation application - a simple thumb-cock on the outlet of each pump would be sufficient. In article , Kelton Joyner wrote: Unless you have isolation valves to allow servicing of a parallel pump, series works just as well for backup. fuel wil flow through the unpowered pump. Kelton W4IND s/v Isle Escape Larry W4CSC wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in : That begs the question why are you going to put two pumps in parallel if you only want to run one at a time? Steve Backup? Larry W4CSC |
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I spoke to the tech rep at Walbro regarding the wobble plate blockage.
His reply was that Yes, the stopped wobble plate can block the free flow of fuel to the second pump in series. But, the blockage can be overcome by 1.5 psi of push or suction. On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:43:41 GMT, Rich Hampel wrote: The Walbro is a 'wobble plate' diaphragm and therefore not suitable for series installation. If the wobble plate stops in a position such that one pump is blocked then both pumps will not flow. For parallel installation application - a simple thumb-cock on the outlet of each pump would be sufficient. In article , Kelton Joyner wrote: Unless you have isolation valves to allow servicing of a parallel pump, series works just as well for backup. fuel wil flow through the unpowered pump. Kelton W4IND s/v Isle Escape Larry W4CSC wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in : That begs the question why are you going to put two pumps in parallel if you only want to run one at a time? Steve Backup? Larry W4CSC |
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I spoke to the tech rep at Walbro regarding the wobble plate blockage.
His reply was that Yes, the stopped wobble plate can block the free flow of fuel to the second pump in series. But, the blockage can be overcome by 1.5 psi of push or suction. On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:43:41 GMT, Rich Hampel wrote: The Walbro is a 'wobble plate' diaphragm and therefore not suitable for series installation. If the wobble plate stops in a position such that one pump is blocked then both pumps will not flow. For parallel installation application - a simple thumb-cock on the outlet of each pump would be sufficient. In article , Kelton Joyner wrote: Unless you have isolation valves to allow servicing of a parallel pump, series works just as well for backup. fuel wil flow through the unpowered pump. Kelton W4IND s/v Isle Escape Larry W4CSC wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in : That begs the question why are you going to put two pumps in parallel if you only want to run one at a time? Steve Backup? Larry W4CSC |
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The Walbro is a 'wobble plate' diaphragm and therefore not suitable for
series installation. If the wobble plate stops in a position such that one pump is blocked then both pumps will not flow. For parallel installation application - a simple thumb-cock on the outlet of each pump would be sufficient. In article , Kelton Joyner wrote: Unless you have isolation valves to allow servicing of a parallel pump, series works just as well for backup. fuel wil flow through the unpowered pump. Kelton W4IND s/v Isle Escape Larry W4CSC wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in : That begs the question why are you going to put two pumps in parallel if you only want to run one at a time? Steve Backup? Larry W4CSC |
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Is there no failure mode that would prevent flow through?
Doug s/v Callista "Kelton Joyner" wrote in message .. . Unless you have isolation valves to allow servicing of a parallel pump, series works just as well for backup. fuel wil flow through the unpowered pump. Kelton W4IND s/v Isle Escape Larry W4CSC wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in : That begs the question why are you going to put two pumps in parallel if you only want to run one at a time? Steve Backup? Larry W4CSC |
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Doug,
The way the Walbro is built, the flow may or may not be blocked depending on the position that the wobble plate is in. Bottom line if you want fully automatic change over for backup, plumb them in parallel with a check valve on the output of each. Then you can wire them to a SPDT center off switch to shift from one to the other. Doug Dotson wrote: Is there no failure mode that would prevent flow through? Doug s/v Callista "Kelton Joyner" wrote in message .. . Unless you have isolation valves to allow servicing of a parallel pump, series works just as well for backup. fuel wil flow through the unpowered pump. Kelton W4IND s/v Isle Escape Larry W4CSC wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in : That begs the question why are you going to put two pumps in parallel if you only want to run one at a time? Steve Backup? Larry W4CSC -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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