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Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] August 14th 08 04:58 PM

An obvious case of injustice.
 
More police power abuse!

http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/justice.asp

Sailboat helmsman gets charged with manslaughter when sailboat is run over
by power boat operated by an off-duty cop. Angle of impact indicates
powerboat was overtaking but this is not even mentioned in article.

Wilbur Hubbard



Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] August 14th 08 05:43 PM

An obvious case of injustice.
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:58:22 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

More police power abuse!

http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/justice.asp


So the sail boat's insurance company doesn't like its chances of winning
the
case in court, and wants to try it in the press instead. Why am I not
surprised?


What surprises me is how the police obviously are engaging in some sort of
cover-up with the shenanigans as to the officer's blood alcohol test as he
was seen operating in a reckless manner by witnesses on shore.

But the most damning evidence is the angle of impact. It's an overtaking
situation and the police officer is clearly at fault according to the
COLREGS. Witnesses ashore say the sailboat's running lights were on. Yet the
police are attempting to blame the helmsman of the sailboat. It would
laughable were it not for the fact that there was a fatality aboard the
sailboat and lots of serious injuries.

Any lawyer worth his weight in salt will turn this thing around. It's gonna
take an appeal out of the local jurisdiction to nullify the local bubba
system but the drunk police officer is going to get his despite the obvious
favoritism shown.


Wilbur Hubbard



Alan Gomes August 14th 08 06:23 PM

An obvious case of injustice.
 
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:58:22 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

More police power abuse!

http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/justice.asp

So the sail boat's insurance company doesn't like its chances of winning
the
case in court, and wants to try it in the press instead. Why am I not
surprised?


What surprises me is how the police obviously are engaging in some sort of
cover-up with the shenanigans as to the officer's blood alcohol test as he
was seen operating in a reckless manner by witnesses on shore.

But the most damning evidence is the angle of impact. It's an overtaking
situation and the police officer is clearly at fault according to the
COLREGS. Witnesses ashore say the sailboat's running lights were on. Yet the
police are attempting to blame the helmsman of the sailboat. It would
laughable were it not for the fact that there was a fatality aboard the
sailboat and lots of serious injuries.

Any lawyer worth his weight in salt will turn this thing around. It's gonna
take an appeal out of the local jurisdiction to nullify the local bubba
system but the drunk police officer is going to get his despite the obvious
favoritism shown.


Wilbur Hubbard


Latitude 38 magazine (www.latitude38.com) has been following this
closely and has written a fair amount on it. You might want to check
there for further info on it. It does indeed appear that a gross
injustice is taking place here.

--Alan Gomes

Justin C[_13_] August 14th 08 10:20 PM

An obvious case of injustice.
 
In article , Alan Gomes wrote:
Latitude 38 magazine (www.latitude38.com) has been following this
closely and has written a fair amount on it. You might want to check
there for further info on it. It does indeed appear that a gross
injustice is taking place here.


I missed the original post because the sender matched certain rules in
my kill-file. I'll check it out online.

What struck me is the damn unfortunate name of the guy charged - what
sort of parents name their child Bismark?!

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Jere Lull August 14th 08 10:40 PM

An obvious case of injustice.
 
On 2008-08-14 11:58:22 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

More police power abuse!

http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/justice.asp

Sailboat helmsman gets charged with manslaughter when sailboat is run over
by power boat operated by an off-duty cop. Angle of impact indicates
powerboat was overtaking but this is not even mentioned in article.


Though we often disagree, I agree in this case that the police are
clearly trying to protect "one of their own", though the officer was
clearly a boater, not a policeman, when the accident occurred.

Sailboat, overrun by a powerboat from the stern quarter. The conclusion
should be obvious to anyone with any nautical or common sense.

Still, lawyers can and will argue any legal position, depending on who
is paying them.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Justin C[_13_] August 15th 08 06:20 PM

An obvious case of injustice.
 
In article , Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


In article , Alan Gomes wrote:
Latitude 38 magazine (
www.latitude38.com) has been following this
closely and has written a fair amount on it. You might want to check
there for further info on it. It does indeed appear that a gross
injustice is taking place here.


I missed the original post because the sender matched certain rules in
my kill-file. I'll check it out online.

What struck me is the damn unfortunate name of the guy charged - what
sort of parents name their child Bismark?!

Justin.

Battleship builders? Admirers of the "Iron Chancellor?"


No, just the one battleship, pride of the German navy, which was sunk by
the British during WWII.

Other than residents of Bismark, I'm sure most people think of the
famous battleship when they hear the name.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Richard Casady August 15th 08 06:22 PM

An obvious case of injustice.
 
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:24:06 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...


In article , Alan Gomes wrote:
Latitude 38 magazine (www.latitude38.com) has been following this
closely and has written a fair amount on it. You might want to check
there for further info on it. It does indeed appear that a gross
injustice is taking place here.


I missed the original post because the sender matched certain rules in
my kill-file. I'll check it out online.

What struck me is the damn unfortunate name of the guy charged - what
sort of parents name their child Bismark?!

Justin.

Battleship builders? Admirers of the "Iron Chancellor?"


Different spelling. Bismarck is the guy with the battleship named
after him.

Casady

Vic Smith August 16th 08 12:29 AM

An obvious case of injustice.
 
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:20:42 -0000, Justin C
wrote:



Other than residents of Bismark, I'm sure most people think of the
famous battleship when they hear the name.

Nope. Jelly donut. Ich ein jelly donut.

--Vic

~^ beancounter ~^ August 17th 08 02:07 AM

An obvious case of injustice.
 
pigs protecting pigs...hardly news anymore...at least the skipper
wasn't tased, shot, and/or beat up......






On Aug 14, 9:58*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
More police power abuse!

http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/justice.asp

Sailboat helmsman gets charged with manslaughter when sailboat is run over
by power boat operated by an off-duty cop. Angle of impact indicates
powerboat was overtaking but this is not even mentioned in article.

Wilbur Hubbard



Richard Casady August 17th 08 02:42 AM

An obvious case of injustice.
 
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:20:42 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

what
sort of parents name their child Bismark?!

Justin.

Battleship builders? Admirers of the "Iron Chancellor?"


No, just the one battleship, pride of the German navy, which was sunk by
the British during WWII.


There were actually two battleships. Bismarck's sister ship Tirpitz
was sunk by bombing in Norway.

Casady


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