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Skip Gundlach August 6th 08 08:46 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
Just checking in; I'm anchored currently, the reasons thereto (get
warmed up, Wilbur, maybe bob and a few others) to follow in the final
post of the passage later today, in Portland Harbor.

Sailed in, turned upwind and up current, slowed to nought, dropped the
hook and the sail at the same time, and took my wife to bed.

Screw the rest of you, too :{))

For those not responding to my challenge, don't complain if I come too
close to you. For the others, we've already met Roger, and I expect
to be on his mooring tonight or early tomorrow; visitors are welcome.

The balance of the Portland itinerary remains to be set; there
currently isn't one...

--
L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
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(and)
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hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts."
(Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah)



Thomas, Spring Point Light August 6th 08 08:52 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 

"Skip Gundlach" wrote in message
...
Just checking in; I'm anchored currently, the reasons thereto (get warmed
up, Wilbur, maybe bob and a few others) to follow in the final post of the
passage later today, in Portland Harbor.

Sailed in, turned upwind and up current, slowed to nought, dropped the
hook and the sail at the same time, and took my wife to bed.

Screw the rest of you, too :{))

For those not responding to my challenge, don't complain if I come too
close to you. For the others, we've already met Roger, and I expect to be
on his mooring tonight or early tomorrow; visitors are welcome.

The balance of the Portland itinerary remains to be set; there currently
isn't one...

--
L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog
and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog


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I can't believe the famous Pig is nearby my boat.

How do ya like the weather? Just remember, it is Maine..

Roger's mooring .. ?? Right around the corner..

Now,, if the god's of sailing would stop with the rain, fog, .. etc... maybe
you can
enjoy some coastal sailing in Maine.




Wayne.B August 6th 08 09:16 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:46:20 -0400, "Skip Gundlach"
wrote:

The balance of the Portland itinerary remains to be set; there
currently isn't one...


Portland has its attractions as Roger will no doubt point out, but the
serious cruising opportunities are further east in Casco Bay,
Penobscot Bay and Mt Desert Island.

Please have a professional look at that rigging, and think about
getting a tie rod(s) to hold the deck in place. Losing a mast is not
fun - don't ask me how I know that.


Wayne.B August 6th 08 09:26 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:52:21 GMT, "Thomas, Spring Point Light"
wrote:

Now,, if the god's of sailing would stop with the rain, fog, .. etc... maybe
you can
enjoy some coastal sailing in Maine.


Oh stop, fog *is* one of the attractions.

I kid you not.

Some of my most vivid memories of cruising Maine are suddenly being
enveloped by a fog bank, feeling your way along for a while, only to
have the mists partially lift to discover that there is a classic
wooden boat sailing near you among the rocky little islands and pine
trees. There's really nothing quite like it in my experience.


Roger Long August 6th 08 09:33 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
"Wayne.B" wrote

Oh stop, fog *is* one of the attractions.


Thanks for that. Now tell us something good about continuous driving rain
with imbedded thunderstorms to cheer us up.

(I agree with you about the fog though. This year however, it reminds me of
the old joke about the Titanic passenger. "I asked for ice but this is
ridiculous!")

--
Roger Long



Larry August 6th 08 10:08 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
"Roger Long" wrote in
:

Thanks for that. Now tell us something good about continuous driving
rain with imbedded thunderstorms to cheer us up.



We can take showers as long as we like and STILL have the water tankage
full to the brim without a marina bill?....(c;


Capt. JG August 6th 08 10:18 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:52:21 GMT, "Thomas, Spring Point Light"
wrote:

Now,, if the god's of sailing would stop with the rain, fog, .. etc...
maybe
you can
enjoy some coastal sailing in Maine.


Oh stop, fog *is* one of the attractions.

I kid you not.

Some of my most vivid memories of cruising Maine are suddenly being
enveloped by a fog bank, feeling your way along for a while, only to
have the mists partially lift to discover that there is a classic
wooden boat sailing near you among the rocky little islands and pine
trees. There's really nothing quite like it in my experience.



This is typical out here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8IrVcX4El8

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Michael Porter August 6th 08 11:47 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
"Skip Gundlach" wrote:

Just checking in; I'm anchored currently, the reasons thereto (get
warmed up, Wilbur, maybe bob and a few others) to follow in the final
post of the passage later today, in Portland Harbor.

Sailed in, turned upwind and up current, slowed to nought, dropped the
hook and the sail at the same time, and took my wife to bed.

Screw the rest of you, too :{))

For those not responding to my challenge, don't complain if I come too
close to you. For the others, we've already met Roger, and I expect
to be on his mooring tonight or early tomorrow; visitors are welcome.

The balance of the Portland itinerary remains to be set; there
currently isn't one...


Unfortunately, I'm off (in the boat) for Rockland at first light
tomorrow for the Maine Boats & Harbors Show. where we have a booth --
otherwise I'd drive her into Portland to be part of the welcome.

Cheers,
Michael Porter

Michael Porter Marine Design
mporter at mp-marine dot com
www.mp-marine.com
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Thomas, Spring Point Light August 7th 08 02:03 AM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:52:21 GMT, "Thomas, Spring Point Light"
wrote:

Now,, if the god's of sailing would stop with the rain, fog, .. etc...
maybe
you can
enjoy some coastal sailing in Maine.


Oh stop, fog *is* one of the attractions.

I kid you not.

Some of my most vivid memories of cruising Maine are suddenly being
enveloped by a fog bank, feeling your way along for a while, only to
have the mists partially lift to discover that there is a classic
wooden boat sailing near you among the rocky little islands and pine
trees. There's really nothing quite like it in my experience.


Yo.. Wayne.. enveloped in a fog bank? Try being enveloped for two months,
the whole summer, by fog, rain, crap.. Nothing is lifting up here,, and the
classic
wooden boats? They are in the harbor, waiting for that mist which has been
here
since June 2 to clear.

The economy is in a shambles. The lobster boat guys are going broke, no
tourists to
buy the lobsters, and with the high fuel prices added on ..

Then just think about the marinas. First the motor boat crowd is parking
the boats, then
2 months of crap weather so even the sailors aren't going out.. the hotels
are not selling
out, the restaurants are empty, the roads are clear, ....

Yaa tell me all about the "really nothing like it" experience..




Wayne.B August 7th 08 02:22 AM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:18:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

This is typical out here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8IrVcX4El8


Obviously taken from the Marin side where you can actually see the sun
and sky.


Wayne.B August 7th 08 02:41 AM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:03:53 GMT, "Thomas, Spring Point Light"
wrote:

Yo.. Wayne.. enveloped in a fog bank? Try being enveloped for two months,
the whole summer, by fog, rain, crap.. Nothing is lifting up here,, and the
classic
wooden boats? They are in the harbor, waiting for that mist which has been
here
since June 2 to clear.


You are making me glad that we decided to stay south this summer and
go to the Bahamas. No fog in the Exuma Islands but they have their
own charm.

For what it's worth, I have usually found August to be better weather
in Maine.

I lost a lot of respect for lobstermen 3 years ago up in Bar Harbor.
We were there four weeks, and they've got quite the group of hard
drinking, loud mouth bozos running around.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7...nnmainebv0.jpg




Thomas, Spring Point Light August 7th 08 03:25 AM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:03:53 GMT, "Thomas, Spring Point Light"
wrote:

Yo.. Wayne.. enveloped in a fog bank? Try being enveloped for two
months,
the whole summer, by fog, rain, crap.. Nothing is lifting up here,, and
the
classic
wooden boats? They are in the harbor, waiting for that mist which has
been
here
since June 2 to clear.


You are making me glad that we decided to stay south this summer and
go to the Bahamas. No fog in the Exuma Islands but they have their
own charm.

For what it's worth, I have usually found August to be better weather
in Maine.

I lost a lot of respect for lobstermen 3 years ago up in Bar Harbor.
We were there four weeks, and they've got quite the group of hard
drinking, loud mouth bozos running around.


===

Let's face it Wayne,, it does not take a degree from Harvard to pull a trap
up onto a boat,
reach in and pull out a bottom eating lobster.

But .. looks like fuel prices, and weather, are about to send the lobster
men back to the
construction sites.

The price of lobster is going down each day. No tourists are going out to
eat, they can't afford to
since they spent all the money on fuel just getting to Maine.

Soon, the few remaining lobster fishermen will be the hard core, the
offshore guys.

Besides, why do folks want to eat a bottom feeding scavenger to begin with
...

I have never understood why anyone would want to pay all kinds of money to
crack open the
shell of a lobster, and then pay for the shell as part of the dish. Why?
Would you order a chicken
with feathers so you can pluck the bird before eating it? It is nuts.

If they are bad in Bar Harbor, you should have been in Potts Harbor for the
lobster boat races.

Talk about a gathering of mentally challenged alcoholics. They had tattoos'
that were spelled
incorrectly. Names of old girlfriends crossed out.. they were out in the
middle of the bay at 9am,
drinking up a strorm with their women. And the women looked more like men.
Quite a site.

Drive inland sometime when visiting Maine. One DNA,, no teeth,,









Bob August 7th 08 04:30 AM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Aug 6, 11:46*am, "Skip Gundlach" wrote:
Just checking in; I'm anchored currently, the reasons thereto (get
warmed up, Wilbur, maybe bob and a few others) to follow in the final
post of the passage later today, in Portland Harbor.



Screw the rest of you, too :{))
Skip



CONGRATULATIONS SKIP ! ! !

Rest.......... read the posts here ,,,,,,, debrief........... learn
from your voyage ... use your discoveries to guide future actions.

ANd good on for telling me to go **** my self ! Now you got the idea
ARGG !


Bob
50 GRT Near Coast Master & MMD AB LB BST (pending)
God im gonna be insufferable in 6 weeks


Wayne.B August 7th 08 04:38 AM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:30:32 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

Bob
50 GRT Near Coast Master & MMD AB LB BST (pending)
God im gonna be insufferable in 6 weeks


What, no Aux Sail and Assistance Towing ?

Back to school with ye.


Bob August 7th 08 06:03 AM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Aug 6, 7:38*pm, Wayne.B wrote:



What, no Aux Sail and Assistance Towing ?


Back to school with ye.



O **** I forgot those other two 20 question tests at the
end............ HELL YES got that tooo!

Oh, crap and how could I forget my new TSA TWIC Card :/

Now lets see what was that... oh yes, tripping, in irons, and fish
plate ?
NOw to find a tug so I can start cleaning heads............. :)
Humble Bob Argg

Wayne.B August 7th 08 06:37 AM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:03:40 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

Now lets see what was that... oh yes, tripping, in irons, and fish
plate ?


You forgot the "heart shaped shackle" which seems to be totally
unobtainable from any known source.


Capt. JG August 7th 08 08:11 AM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:18:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

This is typical out here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8IrVcX4El8


Obviously taken from the Marin side where you can actually see the sun
and sky.



Yup... just below where I took the vid, there's Horseshoe Cove, which almost
always has sun when the City is in fog.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




[email protected] August 7th 08 11:33 AM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:41:46 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:03:53 GMT, "Thomas, Spring Point Light"
wrote:

Yo.. Wayne.. enveloped in a fog bank? Try being enveloped for two months,
the whole summer, by fog, rain, crap.. Nothing is lifting up here,, and the
classic
wooden boats? They are in the harbor, waiting for that mist which has been
here
since June 2 to clear.


You are making me glad that we decided to stay south this summer and
go to the Bahamas. No fog in the Exuma Islands but they have their
own charm.

For what it's worth, I have usually found August to be better weather
in Maine.

I lost a lot of respect for lobstermen 3 years ago up in Bar Harbor.
We were there four weeks, and they've got quite the group of hard
drinking, loud mouth bozos running around.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7...nnmainebv0.jpg



Bar Harbor is a tourist trap/frat party. If you wanted to visit a nice
place in that area by boat, you would have stayed on the "quiet side"
in Bass Harbor. Then you would have been the loudest, drunkest bozo.




Thomas, Spring Point Light August 7th 08 02:13 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 


Lobster lovers shelling out less
By The Associated Press
Thursday July 31, 2008 - Bangor Daily News


By Clarke Canfield

PORTLAND, Maine - It's peak season for lobster and tourism in Maine, yet
consumption of this crustacean has fallen to the point where it costs no
more than sliced turkey in parts of New England.

A solid harvest and diminished demand from diners adjusting to the weak
economy have pushed the retail price of lobster in Maine beneath $6 a pound,
tightening the financial squeeze on fishermen struggling with soaring fuel
prices.

While fewer locals and tourists overall are shelling out for lobster
dinners, some say the affordability - at a time when most food prices are
rising - has encouraged them to eat more of the seafood delicacy than usual.

Katina Wetter, who spent more than $100 on gas to drive from Indiana to
Portland, Maine, with her family, is counting her pennies while on
vacation - but said she definitely won't skimp on the state's signature
seafood. "I'd be buying lobsters anyway, but not as many if the prices weren't
this low," Wetter said.

Lobster lovers outside of New England won't notice any change in price,
analysts said, since Maine's summertime catch is mostly soft-shelled and too
fragile to ship long distances.

Maine is the nation's lobster breadbasket with fishermen last year hauling
in 63 million pounds, about 80 percent of the U.S. catch, worth $280
million.

Lobster prices are volatile throughout the year with the highest prices in
winter and spring. They typically decline in summer, when fishermen begin
catching lobsters in abundance in the cold waters off Maine's rocky coast.

This summer, retailers agree that prices have fallen more than usual with
them now about $1 a pound cheaper than last year. A healthy catch has
resulted in ample supply, but the main reason behind the price drop is soft
demand - presumably because fewer families are taking summer vacations to
Maine and those that are must pay $4 a gallon to get there.

Traffic on the Maine Turnpike - the main highway for tourists heading into
Maine from the Eastern Seaboard - fell by more than 2 percent in June,
compared with last year, according to the Maine Turnpike Authority.

The going retail price for a small, soft-shell variety of this seafood
delicacy is around $5.99 a pound. Larger lobsters and those with hard
shells - which have more meat than soft-shells - cost more.

At those prices, lobster costs the same amount as turkey - and less than
honey ham - at the deli counter at Hannaford supermarkets, which sells
lobster at more than 20 coastal Maine stores.

"It's closing in on hamburger," said Neal Workman, founder and head of The
Fisheries Exchange, a Boston-based company that tracks prices, catches and
other market information for the lobster industry.

Retailers who rely heavily on summer tourists are promoting their low prices
to drum up business.

"I think everybody in the retail business knows if it comes down to gas or
lobster, people are definitely going to buy gas," said Stuart Norton, owner
of Three Sons Lobster & Fish, a store on Portland's waterfront. "Lobster won't
take you to work."

Seaview Lobster Co. in Kittery and Sanders Lobster Co. in neighboring
Portsmouth, N.H., went so far as to cut prices to $4.99 a pound in an effort
to get shoppers thinking lobster.

Chris Green, who lives outside of Portland, said he would always buy
lobsters for special occasions - no matter the cost. At Portland Lobster
Pound & Fish Market, he bought 10 lobsters and six pounds of soft-shell
clams for a recent feast with friends.

"Even if prices had been high, it wouldn't have [made] any difference," he
said.

Deals also can be had at restaurants.

At Verillo's in Portland, for instance, you can get a lobster dinner with
clam chowder, mussels, cole slaw, french fries, rolls and strawberry
shortcake for $14.99 - which is priced lower than last summer.

But what's good for consumers is another financial trap for lobstermen.

With diesel fuel selling for close to $5 a gallon and bait prices 25 percent
higher than a year ago, lobstermen already have a tough time. In Boothbay
Harbor, longtime lobsterman Clive Ferrin is trying to make ends meet by
charging tourists - $25 for adults, $15 for children - to come out on his
32-foot boat while he's pulling traps.

Ferrin's not surprised that lobster prices are down. He's noticed fewer
tourists in town this summer and suspects that those who are coming are less
prone to order lobster dinners when eating out. Locals, he added, are
fearful of how much they're going to have to spend on heating oil to keep
their homes warm next winter.

"It wouldn't do us any good to catch more lobster because if we do, it'll
drive down the prices even more," Ferrin said.

That's exactly what could well happen in the weeks ahead now that lobster
catches are coming on strong along Maine's 3,500-mile coastline.

The "boat price" paid to fishermen is down 75 cents a pound or more from a
year ago.

"It hasn't been good for the lobster industry, and it may get worse,"
Workman of the Fisheries Exchange said. "But if there's a silver lining, it's
that if the cost of lobster goes down" that should eventually turn demand -
and prices - around.

For now, seafood sales at Roger Reed's waterfront store, Portland Lobster
Pound & Fish Market, are down more than 30 percent this year.

"People have to save money for more important things," Reed said.



Bob August 7th 08 03:13 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Aug 6, 9:37*pm, Wayne.B wrote:


You forgot the "heart shaped shackle" which seems to be totally
unobtainable from any known source.



Damn Wayne, you must have been there and done that!

IDK anybody who could pull that bit of trivia out of the air on
demand! Good on for you ! ! :)

Ya, after the 10,000th question on the practice tests I noticed the
uscg question bank is a bit dated.

Hope your day goes well, I think Il sit around and gloat 2day......
Bob

Wayne.B August 7th 08 03:54 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:33:28 -0400, wrote:

Bar Harbor is a tourist trap/frat party. If you wanted to visit a nice
place in that area by boat, you would have stayed on the "quiet side"
in Bass Harbor.


Bass Harbor is nice. We rented a house there one summer, just down
the shore from Thurston's Lobster Pound. There is almost no
anchorage room or moorings for cruisers however. We tried once and
couldn't make it work.

Bar Harbor is more than tourists. There are a lot of working lobster
boats there. It is also a great place to hang out for cruising boats
because of the inexpensive town moorings, provisioning opportunities
and the shuttle bus service around the island.

Then you would have been the loudest, drunkest bozo.


Not likely.


[email protected] August 7th 08 04:13 PM

Hello from Portland Harbor
 
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:54:04 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:33:28 -0400, wrote:

Bar Harbor is a tourist trap/frat party. If you wanted to visit a nice
place in that area by boat, you would have stayed on the "quiet side"
in Bass Harbor.


Bass Harbor is nice. We rented a house there one summer, just down
the shore from Thurston's Lobster Pound. There is almost no
anchorage room or moorings for cruisers however. We tried once and
couldn't make it work.

Bar Harbor is more than tourists. There are a lot of working lobster
boats there. It is also a great place to hang out for cruising boats
because of the inexpensive town moorings, provisioning opportunities
and the shuttle bus service around the island.

Then you would have been the loudest, drunkest bozo.


Not likely.


In Bass Harbor, it's a low bar to hurdle!

Did you get a chance to do the Deckhouse dinner theater? They have
moved to Southwest Harbor as of our last visit, but it's always a fun
evening.

Then there is the Seafood Ketch, with signs requesting that patrons
refrain from fishing out of the windows.



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