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On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:20:19 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
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First you have to be dumb enough to use old tires for fenders.

I don;t know. Sure are a lot of boats using them... maybe somebody
knows something we don;t know?

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

A lot of cruising boats traveling through the European canals swear by
them as they often lie alongside barges. I have often seen them in use
(small car ones, not trucks) in harbours in Spain and Italy where
boats are moored to the quay or marina dock and packed in so tightly
that it is normal to touch each other. Normal boating fenders can get
torn off as one yacht rocks in a swell and pulls its neighbour's
fenders downwards.

Makes sense to use tyres in this case.

Peter

Yes, that is right.
I took a yacht through the Canal du Midi in France some years ago. People go
through with tyres all round the boat since you never know how many barges
etc they are going to cram into the locks with you.
When you get to the other end you just leave the tyres on the quayside for
someone who is going the other way. Good system, works well.

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On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:58:06 -0400, wrote:



First you have to be dumb enough to use old tires for fenders.

I don;t know. Sure are a lot of boats using them... maybe somebody
knows something we don;t know?


The masses often make foolish choices. Just because you see a lot of boats doing
it, doesn't make it smart. It may even increase the odds that it's stupid.


Thank you. It appears that I and many others are obviously not smart
and are stupid.

Apart from using commercially available small boat fenders for which
the aforementioned conditions would warrant too many to be able to
stow or utulise afterwards, the only other option I can come up with
is not to sail to these places or stay at home.

Is there another option that has somehow missed the masses in their
"dumb enough" emulation of each other?

regards
Peter

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On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:58:06 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:20:19 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:13:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:23:58 GMT, (Richard Casady)
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:52:17 -0400, wrote:

Yes, and the water that collects in each one makes a dandy little mosquito
factory. In many locales, that spells "West Nile Virus".

Only if you are too dumb to provide a drain hole. When they just lie
arround in piles, they collect rainwater, and one hole won't deal with
that.

Casady

First you have to be dumb enough to use old tires for fenders.

I don;t know. Sure are a lot of boats using them... maybe somebody
knows something we don;t know?


The masses often make foolish choices. Just because you see a lot of boats doing
it, doesn't make it smart. It may even increase the odds that it's stupid.

How so? The purpose of a fender is to keep your boat from banging into
other things, or other things from banging into your boat. Tires work
wonderfully well for that purpose as they can be obtained in various
grades of size and flexibility to work with nearly any size of vessel
up to about 200 ft. in size. Readily obtainable in most places in the
world.

In fact, "if you see a lot of boats doing it" usually does make it a
good idea. Take the diversity of fishing boat styles from place to
place. Why there is even a difference between in shore and off shore
hull shapes - all due to different conditions, and thus logical and a
"good idea".

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

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On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 08:59:57 +1000, Herodotus
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:58:06 -0400, wrote:



First you have to be dumb enough to use old tires for fenders.

I don;t know. Sure are a lot of boats using them... maybe somebody
knows something we don;t know?


The masses often make foolish choices. Just because you see a lot of boats doing
it, doesn't make it smart. It may even increase the odds that it's stupid.


Thank you. It appears that I and many others are obviously not smart
and are stupid.

Apart from using commercially available small boat fenders for which
the aforementioned conditions would warrant too many to be able to
stow or utulise afterwards, the only other option I can come up with
is not to sail to these places or stay at home.

Is there another option that has somehow missed the masses in their
"dumb enough" emulation of each other?

regards
Peter

Obviously you are not a REAL SAILOR since if you were you would send
off to West marine to get some new, pristine, white, fenders ( I know
that this is the way real sailors do it as I once knew a "real sailor"
who convinced a group of yachties join together to order batteries
from W.M. and have them air freighted from America to Langkawi,
Malaysia).

Once you receive your fenders (they really do look good) you will need
to buy a bicycle pump to inflate them, which, as it can be stored away
in a locker out of sight, you are allowed to purchase on the local
economy, and then (Lord they are beautiful) you will understand the
need for "Fender covers" which, again, you can procure from W.M. and
have shipped to you nearly anywhere in the world.

Once you have obtained your beautiful new fenders, and clothed them in
sparkling new clothes, you have the problem that brushing against some
filthy jetty might discolor them.

One solution is to purchase a length of Sunbrella cloth and make a
curtain (sometimes people use old sails for this but it is not as
elegant a solution) to go between the fender clothes and the grotty
jetty.

Of course, you will need to have this curtain sewn by your local
sail/canopy maker using special thread and be very, very, sure that he
installs stainless grommets to attach the white (Must be white)
lanyards to attach it to the side of your boat). Do Not, under any
conditions have this done by the old guy, down to the corner that sews
truck tarpaulin!

This curtain will protect your pristine new fenders (clothed with
sparkling new fender covers) thus protecting your boat.




Or, you can go down to the second hand guy and buy some tires for
$0.50 a set......


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

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The masses often make foolish choices. Just because you see a lot of boats doing
it, doesn't make it smart. It may even increase the odds that it's stupid.

How so? The purpose of a fender is to keep your boat from banging into
other things, or other things from banging into your boat. Tires work
wonderfully well for that purpose as they can be obtained in various
grades of size and flexibility to work with nearly any size of vessel
up to about 200 ft. in size. Readily obtainable in most places in the
world.

In fact, "if you see a lot of boats doing it" usually does make it a
good idea. Take the diversity of fishing boat styles from place to
place. Why there is even a difference between in shore and off shore
hull shapes - all due to different conditions, and thus logical and a
"good idea".

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)


It may sound terribly British but............

Hear, Hear!! Well said Sir!!

Peter

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In article , wrote:

It's been a VERY long time since Britannia ruled the waves.

It's been even longer since you posted anything worth reading.

Justin.

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It may sound terribly British but............

Hear, Hear!! Well said Sir!!

Peter

It's been a VERY long time since Britannia ruled the waves.


Perhaps, but she did do it rather well and for quite a while until the
Japanese sunk two capital ships who foolishly had no air cover.

However, the British comedian Spike Milligan said many years ago that
the British Empire ended at Charing Cross Station in London.

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In article , wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:30:39 -0000, Justin C wrote:

In article , wrote:

It's been a VERY long time since Britannia ruled the waves.

It's been even longer since you posted anything worth reading.

Justin.

Well, aren't you just the clever little runt.

I'm sorry, what was that? Did I touch a nerve?

Justin.

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In article , wrote:
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:33:47 -0000, Justin C wrote:

In article , wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:30:39 -0000, Justin C wrote:

In article , wrote:

It's been a VERY long time since Britannia ruled the waves.

It's been even longer since you posted anything worth reading.

Justin.

Well, aren't you just the clever little runt.

I'm sorry, what was that? Did I touch a nerve?

Justin.

Hardly, little runt. Go play in traffic.

Can I borrow the AIS?

Justin.

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On 2008-08-02 13:04:39 -0400, "Edgar" said:

I took a yacht through the Canal du Midi in France some years ago. People go
through with tyres all round the boat since you never know how many barges
etc they are going to cram into the locks with you.
When you get to the other end you just leave the tyres on the quayside for
someone who is going the other way. Good system, works well.

That sounds like a good system. I certainly wouldn't want to stow
things that big unless I was likely to need them regularly.

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