Well having read all of his books and followed many debates about this
enigma of a man, I was wondering what thoughts any regular
rec.boats.cruising members had about the revelations provided by
Anthony Dalton in his new biography of Arthur (tristan) Jones, Wayward
Sailor.

If Anthony is to be believed, and I see no reason not to, then Tristan
despite being a simple mortal with many faults, was never the boy or
man he claimed he was, from his birth to his last adventure in
Thailand before his death.

I personally thoroughly enjoyed all his books, even Aka (which some
didn't). But now having read Anthony's account, the excitement has
dulled. Tristan had been the hero that Boys Own books are written for.
Yes, he sailed and wrote books, the evidence is there, but he also
deliberately lied about his many adventures. Many authors do that of
course, but Tristan tried to convince us that his adventures where
true.

But apart from that Anthony and others now paint a more unsavoury
picture of the man, who was a loner and often anti-social and above
all else was always determined to get his own way against anyone who
got in his way come hell or high water.

Yes I always believed he was an a bit of an incorrigible rough, but
this expose of the man leaves me feeling 'let down' not just for
myself but for the many youngsters that looked up to his spirit of
adventure and to those that admired his support of the disabled, that
now appears to be more talk than action!

Tristan may have often felt that the world had let him down in some
way, but I feel he let us down too in the process.

andrew

I have not read the Dalton book and after reading this post I will not. Most
of the Jones books were good reads. Why would I want to diminish those fond
memories? I also enjoyed the Patrick O'Brian series. The fact that Mr.
O'Brian was not quite who he portrayed himself to be has not diminished the
enjoyment of his books. I suspect that Mr. Dalton did not have anything
better to do with his time.


"andrew" wrote in message
om...
Well having read all of his books and followed many debates about this
enigma of a man, I was wondering what thoughts any regular
rec.boats.cruising members had about the revelations provided by
Anthony Dalton in his new biography of Arthur (tristan) Jones, Wayward
Sailor.

If Anthony is to be believed, and I see no reason not to, then Tristan
despite being a simple mortal with many faults, was never the boy or
man he claimed he was, from his birth to his last adventure in
Thailand before his death.

I personally thoroughly enjoyed all his books, even Aka (which some
didn't). But now having read Anthony's account, the excitement has
dulled. Tristan had been the hero that Boys Own books are written for.
Yes, he sailed and wrote books, the evidence is there, but he also
deliberately lied about his many adventures. Many authors do that of
course, but Tristan tried to convince us that his adventures where
true.

But apart from that Anthony and others now paint a more unsavoury
picture of the man, who was a loner and often anti-social and above
all else was always determined to get his own way against anyone who
got in his way come hell or high water.

Yes I always believed he was an a bit of an incorrigible rough, but
this expose of the man leaves me feeling 'let down' not just for
myself but for the many youngsters that looked up to his spirit of
adventure and to those that admired his support of the disabled, that
now appears to be more talk than action!

Tristan may have often felt that the world had let him down in some
way, but I feel he let us down too in the process.

andrew

I have not read the Dalton book and after reading this post I will not. Most
of the Jones books were good reads. Why would I want to diminish those fond
memories? I also enjoyed the Patrick O'Brian series. The fact that Mr.
O'Brian was not quite who he portrayed himself to be has not diminished the
enjoyment of his books. I suspect that Mr. Dalton did not have anything
better to do with his time.


"andrew" wrote in message
om...
Well having read all of his books and followed many debates about this
enigma of a man, I was wondering what thoughts any regular
rec.boats.cruising members had about the revelations provided by
Anthony Dalton in his new biography of Arthur (tristan) Jones, Wayward
Sailor.

If Anthony is to be believed, and I see no reason not to, then Tristan
despite being a simple mortal with many faults, was never the boy or
man he claimed he was, from his birth to his last adventure in
Thailand before his death.

I personally thoroughly enjoyed all his books, even Aka (which some
didn't). But now having read Anthony's account, the excitement has
dulled. Tristan had been the hero that Boys Own books are written for.
Yes, he sailed and wrote books, the evidence is there, but he also
deliberately lied about his many adventures. Many authors do that of
course, but Tristan tried to convince us that his adventures where
true.

But apart from that Anthony and others now paint a more unsavoury
picture of the man, who was a loner and often anti-social and above
all else was always determined to get his own way against anyone who
got in his way come hell or high water.

Yes I always believed he was an a bit of an incorrigible rough, but
this expose of the man leaves me feeling 'let down' not just for
myself but for the many youngsters that looked up to his spirit of
adventure and to those that admired his support of the disabled, that
now appears to be more talk than action!

Tristan may have often felt that the world had let him down in some
way, but I feel he let us down too in the process.

andrew

I have read most or all his books. Not the Dalton book, though I might
sometime. I reviewed a very heated argument on one website list, one
that lasted several months, and was going strong when I quit reading.
Apparently one of his early fans was truly and deeply offended by his
scurvy habits. g

It seems he had lots of "problems", but he was a real sailer who built
his life around boats and had real insights and convictions about
sailing. It's easy to say he "could have thus and so", but I think what
he _did_ was rather extraordinary. Don't know if I would have put up
with his company, but OTOH, several people have said he did them a very
good turn.

In many ways, the story Dalton tells reads like a tragedy in several
acts. Although the man had real serious issues, he kept getting up and
swinging right up to the end. He shows in his writing what he liked and
what he hated and the way he would have liked things to be - and I can
concur with most of his positions. He was a real tough nut but his
stories seem to be from one who loved boats and the sea.

Rufus

I have read most or all his books. Not the Dalton book, though I might
sometime. I reviewed a very heated argument on one website list, one
that lasted several months, and was going strong when I quit reading.
Apparently one of his early fans was truly and deeply offended by his
scurvy habits. g

It seems he had lots of "problems", but he was a real sailer who built
his life around boats and had real insights and convictions about
sailing. It's easy to say he "could have thus and so", but I think what
he _did_ was rather extraordinary. Don't know if I would have put up
with his company, but OTOH, several people have said he did them a very
good turn.

In many ways, the story Dalton tells reads like a tragedy in several
acts. Although the man had real serious issues, he kept getting up and
swinging right up to the end. He shows in his writing what he liked and
what he hated and the way he would have liked things to be - and I can
concur with most of his positions. He was a real tough nut but his
stories seem to be from one who loved boats and the sea.

Rufus

"Tom R." wrote in message ...
I have not read the Dalton book and after reading this post I will not. Most
of the Jones books were good reads. Why would I want to diminish those fond
memories? I also enjoyed the Patrick O'Brian series. The fact that Mr.
O'Brian was not quite who he portrayed himself to be has not diminished the
enjoyment of his books. I suspect that Mr. Dalton did not have anything
better to do with his time.

well Tom, you may not have realized and Dalton's book does explain,
but Dalton was and probably still is a fan of Tristan's. He still I am
sure admires him as a sailor and writer, as Dalton is also. But as he
explains in his book, he set out to write a simply biography of one of
his favourite sailors and writers, unfortuntately what he discovered
was not as simply as that. He was therefore presumably left with the
decision, as all of us would have been in Dalton's position, should I
continue and get to the end regardless of the consequences or pull out
and let sleeping dogs lie.

That choice we all have of course in life, and now we know that Dalton
chose the former. Some would say he was a brave and honourable man,
others have said he was a 'hatchet man'. But those alternate
descriptions are our seperate choices.

If you haven't read the book, I think you should, otherwise others can
accuse you of 'living with your head in the sand' or 'viewing the
world through rose coloured spectacles'!

regards

andrew


"andrew" wrote in message
om...
Well having read all of his books and followed many debates about this
enigma of a man, I was wondering what thoughts any regular
rec.boats.cruising members had about the revelations provided by
Anthony Dalton in his new biography of Arthur (tristan) Jones, Wayward
Sailor.

If Anthony is to be believed, and I see no reason not to, then Tristan
despite being a simple mortal with many faults, was never the boy or
man he claimed he was, from his birth to his last adventure in
Thailand before his death.

I personally thoroughly enjoyed all his books, even Aka (which some
didn't). But now having read Anthony's account, the excitement has
dulled. Tristan had been the hero that Boys Own books are written for.
Yes, he sailed and wrote books, the evidence is there, but he also
deliberately lied about his many adventures. Many authors do that of
course, but Tristan tried to convince us that his adventures where
true.

But apart from that Anthony and others now paint a more unsavoury
picture of the man, who was a loner and often anti-social and above
all else was always determined to get his own way against anyone who
got in his way come hell or high water.

Yes I always believed he was an a bit of an incorrigible rough, but
this expose of the man leaves me feeling 'let down' not just for
myself but for the many youngsters that looked up to his spirit of
adventure and to those that admired his support of the disabled, that
now appears to be more talk than action!

Tristan may have often felt that the world had let him down in some
way, but I feel he let us down too in the process.

andrew

"Tom R." wrote in message ...
I have not read the Dalton book and after reading this post I will not. Most
of the Jones books were good reads. Why would I want to diminish those fond
memories? I also enjoyed the Patrick O'Brian series. The fact that Mr.
O'Brian was not quite who he portrayed himself to be has not diminished the
enjoyment of his books. I suspect that Mr. Dalton did not have anything
better to do with his time.

well Tom, you may not have realized and Dalton's book does explain,
but Dalton was and probably still is a fan of Tristan's. He still I am
sure admires him as a sailor and writer, as Dalton is also. But as he
explains in his book, he set out to write a simply biography of one of
his favourite sailors and writers, unfortuntately what he discovered
was not as simply as that. He was therefore presumably left with the
decision, as all of us would have been in Dalton's position, should I
continue and get to the end regardless of the consequences or pull out
and let sleeping dogs lie.

That choice we all have of course in life, and now we know that Dalton
chose the former. Some would say he was a brave and honourable man,
others have said he was a 'hatchet man'. But those alternate
descriptions are our seperate choices.

If you haven't read the book, I think you should, otherwise others can
accuse you of 'living with your head in the sand' or 'viewing the
world through rose coloured spectacles'!

regards

andrew


"andrew" wrote in message
om...
Well having read all of his books and followed many debates about this
enigma of a man, I was wondering what thoughts any regular
rec.boats.cruising members had about the revelations provided by
Anthony Dalton in his new biography of Arthur (tristan) Jones, Wayward
Sailor.

If Anthony is to be believed, and I see no reason not to, then Tristan
despite being a simple mortal with many faults, was never the boy or
man he claimed he was, from his birth to his last adventure in
Thailand before his death.

I personally thoroughly enjoyed all his books, even Aka (which some
didn't). But now having read Anthony's account, the excitement has
dulled. Tristan had been the hero that Boys Own books are written for.
Yes, he sailed and wrote books, the evidence is there, but he also
deliberately lied about his many adventures. Many authors do that of
course, but Tristan tried to convince us that his adventures where
true.

But apart from that Anthony and others now paint a more unsavoury
picture of the man, who was a loner and often anti-social and above
all else was always determined to get his own way against anyone who
got in his way come hell or high water.

Yes I always believed he was an a bit of an incorrigible rough, but
this expose of the man leaves me feeling 'let down' not just for
myself but for the many youngsters that looked up to his spirit of
adventure and to those that admired his support of the disabled, that
now appears to be more talk than action!

Tristan may have often felt that the world had let him down in some
way, but I feel he let us down too in the process.

andrew

No sand, but rose coloured spectacles. ;-)
Maybe I'll read it, but what is the point when there is so much to read that
is probably has better appeal.

Tom

"andrew" wrote in message
om...
"Tom R." wrote in message
...
I have not read the Dalton book and after reading this post I will not.
Most
of the Jones books were good reads. Why would I want to diminish those
fond
memories? I also enjoyed the Patrick O'Brian series. The fact that Mr.
O'Brian was not quite who he portrayed himself to be has not diminished
the
enjoyment of his books. I suspect that Mr. Dalton did not have anything
better to do with his time.

well Tom, you may not have realized and Dalton's book does explain,
but Dalton was and probably still is a fan of Tristan's. He still I am
sure admires him as a sailor and writer, as Dalton is also. But as he
explains in his book, he set out to write a simply biography of one of
his favourite sailors and writers, unfortuntately what he discovered
was not as simply as that. He was therefore presumably left with the
decision, as all of us would have been in Dalton's position, should I
continue and get to the end regardless of the consequences or pull out
and let sleeping dogs lie.

That choice we all have of course in life, and now we know that Dalton
chose the former. Some would say he was a brave and honourable man,
others have said he was a 'hatchet man'. But those alternate
descriptions are our seperate choices.

If you haven't read the book, I think you should, otherwise others can
accuse you of 'living with your head in the sand' or 'viewing the
world through rose coloured spectacles'!

regards

andrew


"andrew" wrote in message
om...
Well having read all of his books and followed many debates about this
enigma of a man, I was wondering what thoughts any regular
rec.boats.cruising members had about the revelations provided by
Anthony Dalton in his new biography of Arthur (tristan) Jones, Wayward
Sailor.

If Anthony is to be believed, and I see no reason not to, then Tristan
despite being a simple mortal with many faults, was never the boy or
man he claimed he was, from his birth to his last adventure in
Thailand before his death.

I personally thoroughly enjoyed all his books, even Aka (which some
didn't). But now having read Anthony's account, the excitement has
dulled. Tristan had been the hero that Boys Own books are written for.
Yes, he sailed and wrote books, the evidence is there, but he also
deliberately lied about his many adventures. Many authors do that of
course, but Tristan tried to convince us that his adventures where
true.

But apart from that Anthony and others now paint a more unsavoury
picture of the man, who was a loner and often anti-social and above
all else was always determined to get his own way against anyone who
got in his way come hell or high water.

Yes I always believed he was an a bit of an incorrigible rough, but
this expose of the man leaves me feeling 'let down' not just for
myself but for the many youngsters that looked up to his spirit of
adventure and to those that admired his support of the disabled, that
now appears to be more talk than action!

Tristan may have often felt that the world had let him down in some
way, but I feel he let us down too in the process.

andrew

No sand, but rose coloured spectacles. ;-)
Maybe I'll read it, but what is the point when there is so much to read that
is probably has better appeal.

Tom

"andrew" wrote in message
om...
"Tom R." wrote in message
...
I have not read the Dalton book and after reading this post I will not.
Most
of the Jones books were good reads. Why would I want to diminish those
fond
memories? I also enjoyed the Patrick O'Brian series. The fact that Mr.
O'Brian was not quite who he portrayed himself to be has not diminished
the
enjoyment of his books. I suspect that Mr. Dalton did not have anything
better to do with his time.

well Tom, you may not have realized and Dalton's book does explain,
but Dalton was and probably still is a fan of Tristan's. He still I am
sure admires him as a sailor and writer, as Dalton is also. But as he
explains in his book, he set out to write a simply biography of one of
his favourite sailors and writers, unfortuntately what he discovered
was not as simply as that. He was therefore presumably left with the
decision, as all of us would have been in Dalton's position, should I
continue and get to the end regardless of the consequences or pull out
and let sleeping dogs lie.

That choice we all have of course in life, and now we know that Dalton
chose the former. Some would say he was a brave and honourable man,
others have said he was a 'hatchet man'. But those alternate
descriptions are our seperate choices.

If you haven't read the book, I think you should, otherwise others can
accuse you of 'living with your head in the sand' or 'viewing the
world through rose coloured spectacles'!

regards

andrew


"andrew" wrote in message
om...
Well having read all of his books and followed many debates about this
enigma of a man, I was wondering what thoughts any regular
rec.boats.cruising members had about the revelations provided by
Anthony Dalton in his new biography of Arthur (tristan) Jones, Wayward
Sailor.

If Anthony is to be believed, and I see no reason not to, then Tristan
despite being a simple mortal with many faults, was never the boy or
man he claimed he was, from his birth to his last adventure in
Thailand before his death.

I personally thoroughly enjoyed all his books, even Aka (which some
didn't). But now having read Anthony's account, the excitement has
dulled. Tristan had been the hero that Boys Own books are written for.
Yes, he sailed and wrote books, the evidence is there, but he also
deliberately lied about his many adventures. Many authors do that of
course, but Tristan tried to convince us that his adventures where
true.

But apart from that Anthony and others now paint a more unsavoury
picture of the man, who was a loner and often anti-social and above
all else was always determined to get his own way against anyone who
got in his way come hell or high water.

Yes I always believed he was an a bit of an incorrigible rough, but
this expose of the man leaves me feeling 'let down' not just for
myself but for the many youngsters that looked up to his spirit of
adventure and to those that admired his support of the disabled, that
now appears to be more talk than action!

Tristan may have often felt that the world had let him down in some
way, but I feel he let us down too in the process.

andrew

"Tom R." wrote in message ...
No sand, but rose coloured spectacles. ;-)
Maybe I'll read it, but what is the point when there is so much to read that
is probably has better appeal.

well Tom, let's be fair. Yes you are undoubtedly right that there is
much to read which may have better appeal. But if you gave Tristan the
benefit of the doubt and read his books and believed them all without
question, then at least give one of his ardent admirers the same
chance. Anthony does after all acknowledge tristan's skills and
determination and good writing through the biography. If after a read
you are the same mind, then so be it. But surely you believe that a
man or author is innocent of malicious intent until proven guilty!

andrew

Tom

"andrew" wrote in message
om...
"Tom R." wrote in message
...
I have not read the Dalton book and after reading this post I will not.
Most
of the Jones books were good reads. Why would I want to diminish those
fond
memories? I also enjoyed the Patrick O'Brian series. The fact that Mr.
O'Brian was not quite who he portrayed himself to be has not diminished
the
enjoyment of his books. I suspect that Mr. Dalton did not have anything
better to do with his time.

well Tom, you may not have realized and Dalton's book does explain,
but Dalton was and probably still is a fan of Tristan's. He still I am
sure admires him as a sailor and writer, as Dalton is also. But as he
explains in his book, he set out to write a simply biography of one of
his favourite sailors and writers, unfortuntately what he discovered
was not as simply as that. He was therefore presumably left with the
decision, as all of us would have been in Dalton's position, should I
continue and get to the end regardless of the consequences or pull out
and let sleeping dogs lie.

That choice we all have of course in life, and now we know that Dalton
chose the former. Some would say he was a brave and honourable man,
others have said he was a 'hatchet man'. But those alternate
descriptions are our seperate choices.

If you haven't read the book, I think you should, otherwise others can
accuse you of 'living with your head in the sand' or 'viewing the
world through rose coloured spectacles'!

regards

andrew


"andrew" wrote in message
om...
Well having read all of his books and followed many debates about this
enigma of a man, I was wondering what thoughts any regular
rec.boats.cruising members had about the revelations provided by
Anthony Dalton in his new biography of Arthur (tristan) Jones, Wayward
Sailor.

If Anthony is to be believed, and I see no reason not to, then Tristan
despite being a simple mortal with many faults, was never the boy or
man he claimed he was, from his birth to his last adventure in
Thailand before his death.

I personally thoroughly enjoyed all his books, even Aka (which some
didn't). But now having read Anthony's account, the excitement has
dulled. Tristan had been the hero that Boys Own books are written for.
Yes, he sailed and wrote books, the evidence is there, but he also
deliberately lied about his many adventures. Many authors do that of
course, but Tristan tried to convince us that his adventures where
true.

But apart from that Anthony and others now paint a more unsavoury
picture of the man, who was a loner and often anti-social and above
all else was always determined to get his own way against anyone who
got in his way come hell or high water.

Yes I always believed he was an a bit of an incorrigible rough, but
this expose of the man leaves me feeling 'let down' not just for
myself but for the many youngsters that looked up to his spirit of
adventure and to those that admired his support of the disabled, that
now appears to be more talk than action!

Tristan may have often felt that the world had let him down in some
way, but I feel he let us down too in the process.

andrew