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[email protected] July 18th 08 05:14 PM

From Toronto - down St. Lawrence river
 
Good day to all;
In two weeks I’m planning to go from Toronto downstream St. Lawrence
River.
I do not have any destination – all what I have is three weeks off
from work, 40’ sailboat, and my two hands.
I like to ask you for suggestion, advice any pro and cons; where to
stop, what must to see, what afraid of – anything what will help me to
make this trip as simple and nice as possible.
My plan is sail down and leave the boat somewhere for winter – to
continue exploration next year.
Thanks in advance.
(Mr.) Mada

Ryk July 18th 08 07:21 PM

From Toronto - down St. Lawrence river
 
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:14:02 -0700 (PDT), in message

wrote:

Good day to all;
In two weeks I’m planning to go from Toronto downstream St. Lawrence
River.
I do not have any destination – all what I have is three weeks off
from work, 40’ sailboat, and my two hands.
I like to ask you for suggestion, advice any pro and cons; where to
stop, what must to see, what afraid of – anything what will help me to
make this trip as simple and nice as possible.
My plan is sail down and leave the boat somewhere for winter – to
continue exploration next year.
Thanks in advance.
(Mr.) Mada


There's a limited number of stops on the north shore of Lake Ontario,
especially if 40 feet means 6 foot plus draft. I have been gently and
retrievably aground at Pickering, Port Darlington, and Newcastle. Port
Hope and Coburg are both nice and deep, but none of these are must see
destinations.

Consider the inside route through the Murray Canal (just re-opened I
hear, so check in advance) into the Bay of Quinte. Be sure to stop at
the Prince Edward YC in Picton, then stop in Kingston for all the
tourist stuff. The Thousand Islands are great and well described in
the Ports guide, then there is a lot of boring river on the way to
Montreal.

On the south east shore you should hit Sodus Bay, Henderson, and
especially Sackett's Harbour.

Cheers,

Rick



[email protected] July 18th 08 07:30 PM

From Toronto - down St. Lawrence river
 
Thanks Rick
My draft is only 4'
(Mr) Mada
On Jul 18, 2:21*pm, Ryk wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:14:02 -0700 (PDT), in message


There's a limited number of stops on the north shore of Lake Ontario,
especially if 40 feet means 6 foot plus draft. I have been gently and
retrievably aground at Pickering, Port Darlington, and Newcastle. Port
Hope and Coburg are both nice and deep, but none of these are must see
destinations.

Consider the inside route through the Murray Canal (just re-opened I
hear, so check in advance) into the Bay of Quinte. Be sure to stop at
the Prince Edward YC in Picton, then stop in Kingston for all the
tourist stuff. The Thousand Islands are great and well described in
the Ports guide, then there is a lot of boring river on the way to
Montreal.

On the south east shore you should hit Sodus Bay, Henderson, and
especially Sackett's Harbour.

Cheers,

Rick



Bruce in alaska July 18th 08 10:51 PM

From Toronto - down St. Lawrence river
 
In article
,
wrote:

Good day to all;
In two weeks Iım planning to go from Toronto downstream St. Lawrence
River.
I do not have any destination * all what I have is three weeks off
from work, 40ı sailboat, and my two hands.
I like to ask you for suggestion, advice any pro and cons; where to
stop, what must to see, what afraid of * anything what will help me to
make this trip as simple and nice as possible.
My plan is sail down and leave the boat somewhere for winter * to
continue exploration next year.
Thanks in advance.
(Mr.) Mada


Read the Radio Callsign Thread that has been running on the Group,
and Know where, and when, to listen for, Commercial Traffic, Navigation
Traffic, and Safety Traffic, while transiting the St Lawrence VTS System.
Remember those BIG Boys, can't STOP or Turn, near as fast as you can,
so it is important that you stay out of their way.

--
Bruce in alaska
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Ryk July 20th 08 10:11 PM

From Toronto - down St. Lawrence river
 
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:51:34 GMT, in message

Bruce in alaska wrote:

Read the Radio Callsign Thread that has been running on the Group,
and Know where, and when, to listen for, Commercial Traffic, Navigation
Traffic, and Safety Traffic, while transiting the St Lawrence VTS System.
Remember those BIG Boys, can't STOP or Turn, near as fast as you can,
so it is important that you stay out of their way.


It is really rare here for fog to be an issue, so visual should be
adequate.

IME there is lots of space to run to if you are watching them, unless
you draw 20 ft. They behave very predictably in the river. We race
around them. In the lakes there is a lot more room and they can
surprise you by altering to avoid you.

My major peeve on the lakes is about big boats with so much white deck
light that you can't read the nav lights to tell which way they are
going. If I could add one thing to the COLREGS as practiced, it would
be something about nav lights being bright enough to be seen clearly
over deck lights. Boats may need to do ops at night. They should
either stop or display enough light to show where they are going.

Ryk


Terry K July 22nd 08 04:52 PM

From Toronto - down St. Lawrence river
 
Or, they could learn to see in somewhat reduced light. It needn't be
streetlamp bright, just a few leds could provide adequate deck working
light for eyes accustomed to the twilight.

Terry K

Ryk July 24th 08 02:16 AM

From Toronto - down St. Lawrence river
 
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:52:41 -0700 (PDT), in message

Terry K wrote:

Or, they could learn to see in somewhat reduced light. It needn't be
streetlamp bright, just a few leds could provide adequate deck working
light for eyes accustomed to the twilight.


There can be good safety reasons to make a deck streetlamp bright if
you can. I just wish they would brighten the nav lights to match.

Ryk



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