On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:18:18 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote:


that Bush isn't to blame for Islamic extremists and even gentle liberal
lefties need to wipe them off the face of the earth before they do the
same to us.

Stephen

I am confused.

When Americans state "In God we trust", which God are they referring
to? Obviously not the Christian God. Sounds more like Camaxtli, the
Aztec god of war.

Do you propose that the Christian extremists get the same treatment?

What about the gun-totting, survivalist, anti-government extremists of
places such as Montana?

Do you propose to invade China, Russia, Venezuela, Pakistan (suggested
by some at present) and any other country that you consider poses a
threat to US interests? What about Cuba? Oh, I forgot. You tried that
once and lost.

Your response is unreasoned, abusive and blustering, typical of
someone who cannot accept Vail criticism and who has no other means of
refuting the statements.

Peter

"Herodotus" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:18:18 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote:


that Bush isn't to blame for Islamic extremists and even gentle liberal
lefties need to wipe them off the face of the earth before they do the
same to us.

Stephen

I am confused.

When Americans state "In God we trust", which God are they referring
to? Obviously not the Christian God. Sounds more like Camaxtli, the
Aztec god of war.


In God we trust. All others pay cash.

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Herodotus wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:18:18 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote:


that Bush isn't to blame for Islamic extremists and even gentle liberal
lefties need to wipe them off the face of the earth before they do the
same to us.

Stephen

I am confused.

When Americans state "In God we trust", which God are they referring
to? Obviously not the Christian God. Sounds more like Camaxtli, the
Aztec god of war.

Do you propose that the Christian extremists get the same treatment?

Of course. All extremists of any type who threaten and carry out
violence targeting innocents should be investigated and stopped by any
means necessary.

What about the gun-totting, survivalist, anti-government extremists of
places such as Montana?

Well, cultists and extremists should be and have been caught and stopped
from hurting people.

Do you propose to invade China, Russia, Venezuela, Pakistan (suggested
by some at present) and any other country that you consider poses a
threat to US interests? What about Cuba? Oh, I forgot. You tried that
once and lost.

We should remain somewhat lackadaisical about those who only threaten
and never seem to be willing or able to carry it out, like we did with
the Islamic extremists; but once they show the willingness or ability to
hurt people we should rain holy hell down on them, just like we did with
Al Qaida.

Your response is unreasoned, abusive and blustering, typical of
someone who cannot accept Vail criticism and who has no other means of
refuting the statements.

The only abuse I level at people is toward those who level it at me
first. There has been none toward you so far, has there? You should not
consider demolition of your arguments as "abuse."

Stephen

"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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Herodotus wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:18:18 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote:


that Bush isn't to blame for Islamic extremists and even gentle liberal
lefties need to wipe them off the face of the earth before they do the
same to us.

Stephen

I am confused.

When Americans state "In God we trust", which God are they referring
to? Obviously not the Christian God. Sounds more like Camaxtli, the
Aztec god of war.

Do you propose that the Christian extremists get the same treatment?

Of course. All extremists of any type who threaten and carry out violence
targeting innocents should be investigated and stopped by any means
necessary.

What about the gun-totting, survivalist, anti-government extremists of
places such as Montana?

Well, cultists and extremists should be and have been caught and stopped
from hurting people.

Do you propose to invade China, Russia, Venezuela, Pakistan (suggested
by some at present) and any other country that you consider poses a
threat to US interests? What about Cuba? Oh, I forgot. You tried that
once and lost.

We should remain somewhat lackadaisical about those who only threaten and
never seem to be willing or able to carry it out, like we did with the
Islamic extremists; but once they show the willingness or ability to hurt
people we should rain holy hell down on them, just like we did with Al
Qaida.

Your response is unreasoned, abusive and blustering, typical of
someone who cannot accept Vail criticism and who has no other means of
refuting the statements.

The only abuse I level at people is toward those who level it at me first.
There has been none toward you so far, has there? You should not consider
demolition of your arguments as "abuse."

Stephen


Yeah, we "rain holy hell down on them" like with did with bin laden... a guy
trailing 300lbs of dialysis equipment over hill and dale. But, we sure "got
them" in Iraq, except they're all movin to Afganistan thanks to George and
Dick.

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:32:33 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:49:52 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote:


we should rain holy hell down on them


Stevie boy has exposed himself as just another religious extremist who believes,
like the Islamic extremists he abhors, that he is under orders from God to
eliminate that anyone who opposes HIS religion, and they must be eliminated in
the name of God.



The really silly thing abut the whole mid-east affair is that they all
worship the same god - The God of Abraham. Says so in the Koran, the
Bible and the Torah. You'd think they would all be bosom buds,
wouldn't you?

Just goes to show you that politics is more powerful the religion.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:32:33 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:49:52 -0700, Stephen Trapani

wrote:


we should rain holy hell down on them


Stevie boy has exposed himself as just another religious extremist who
believes,
like the Islamic extremists he abhors, that he is under orders from God to
eliminate that anyone who opposes HIS religion, and they must be
eliminated in
the name of God.



The really silly thing abut the whole mid-east affair is that they all
worship the same god - The God of Abraham. Says so in the Koran, the
Bible and the Torah. You'd think they would all be bosom buds,
wouldn't you?

Just goes to show you that politics is more powerful the religion.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)


Politics is more powerful and, I think, a force for good. Most people would
rather attack each other via politics and words rather than with bombs and
guns. There are a few on both sides (politics and religion) that prefer
bombs and guns. On one side, we have religious fundamentalist extremists and
on the other we have the Bush/Cheney crowd. But, I repeat myself.


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wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:49:52 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote:


we should rain holy hell down on them


Stevie boy has exposed himself as just another religious extremist who believes,
like the Islamic extremists he abhors, that he is under orders from God to
eliminate that anyone who opposes HIS religion, and they must be eliminated in
the name of God.

It's hard to argue with someone who does not answer any of my arguments
and seems to pay no attention at all to what I'm saying. I guess to hold
a view like yours you have to keep your eyes shut pretty tightly.

Okay, close your eyes, here comes another demolition of what you are saying:

I'm an atheist. My stated standards about attacking terrorist have to do
with the innocents that they threaten and attack, not their religion.
Fortunately for you and me, those in power don't have their eyes closed
and are stopping those who are able to hurt us.

So it doesn't matter how tightly you close your eyes, there are enough
of us with our eyes open so you won't get hurt.


Stephen

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:07:40 -0700, Stephen Trapani
said:

I'm an atheist.

Got a feather handy? I figure that's what it would take to knock Jon over
right now.


Not a chance. I believe in God. Keep that feather handy for Dave. LOL

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wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:07:40 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:49:52 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote:


we should rain holy hell down on them

Stevie boy has exposed himself as just another religious extremist who believes,
like the Islamic extremists he abhors, that he is under orders from God to
eliminate that anyone who opposes HIS religion, and they must be eliminated in
the name of God.
It's hard to argue with someone who does not answer any of my arguments
and seems to pay no attention at all to what I'm saying.


Yes, that must be very frustrating for you. Nobody thinks what you say
has any gravitas. Maybe if you stamp your feet and hold your breath
someone will pretend to pay attention to your nonsense.

No, reason is always the first best answer for ignorance and falsehood.
I'll continue with that. I'm sure that even though you couldn't
understand it, there were plenty that read it here who could.

Stephen

Yes, that must be very frustrating for you. Nobody thinks what you say
has any gravitas. Maybe if you stamp your feet and hold your breath
someone will pretend to pay attention to your nonsense.

No, reason is always the first best answer for ignorance and falsehood.
I'll continue with that. I'm sure that even though you couldn't
understand it, there were plenty that read it here who could.

Stephen

My God! I am obviously not as perceptive and intelligent as I thought
I was. Thanks for making me feel an intellectual fraud.

I tried hard, but I could see no substance or reasoned truths in any
of your arguments. Just sounded like not very good rhetoric to me.

regards
Peter