"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
Because it's not all about me or you or likely anyone who's on this
newsgroup.

Then why did you ask if I like the way things have gone the last eight
years? I personally have absolutely nothing to complain about and
apparently neither do you.

So, you don't mind if people suffer. Got it.


It's about the suffering going on due to Bush's insolence and corruption.
I'm sick of his pandering to the right-wing religious nuts who want gov't
to stay out of their lives, but who want to turn this into a
religious/fascist/fundamentalist state of their own design, but not that
dissimilar to the Taliban.

Haven't seen a bit of this. Has the govt been getting more into your life
lately? This struggle has gone on at the fringes for as long as I can
remember. Nothing new.

In your mind, nothing is new. Got it.


I'm sick of him starting and then perpetuating a war of choice (Iraq) vs.
one of necessity (Afganistan) and lying about it the whole time.

Everyone thought Iraq had WMDs, not just Bush. There was no lying.

BS. He lied, Cheney lied, and Powel went along with it. Everyone? Really?

I'm sick of him ignoring and being so out of touch with what's going on
in this country that he thinks everything is just fine with the economy,
the lack of affordable healthcare for those worse off than people like me
and you, and ignoring the people in desperate situations (e.g., New
Orleans).

Again, nothing new here. The economy goes up and down. We don't have
socialized medicine. What's new? I can't remember it ever being any
different, can you? Bush isn't to blame for any of it.

Again, you don't care. Got it. Butter wouldn't melt in his mouth or yours I
suppose.


Don't think I'm absolving the formerly Republican controlled Congress
either. They are at least complicit. The Republicans are holding fast
even though the Dems are not in charge, basically preventing anything
meaningful to get done, because it's an election year. And, don't think
I'm absolving the Dem leadership in Congress either. I'm not happy that
Pelosi refused to consider impeachment. It was just fine to put the
country through an impeachment trial because Clinton lied about a
blowjob, but it's not ok to put the country through an impeachment trial
because Bush/Cheney lied about an unnecessary war? Absolutely
unbelievable. Even one of our own Senators (Feinstein), a supposed
liberal, refuses to consider it.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. You know that, right? And even
Bush's former press secretary who wrote the tell all book said he wasn't
lying about WMD's, just giving the information he had.

Bush lied repeatedly to the US public. He and his cronies have been lying
for the last seven years.

The gov't in this country is spying on its citizens, detaining people
without trial (not just foreigners, but it's own citizens), and generally
trashing our civil rights.

Nah. There have been some changes due to the war on terrorists. It's a new
type of war requiring a new type of surveillance. No new president will
change that. If they do, *they* should be impeached.

Like I said, it's a slippery slope. I know you don't mind being on it. I do.

Overseas, even with the grudging funding of HIV programs in Africa by the
Bush Administration, there are so many strings attached that countries
are barred from using their own money to promote safer sex with condoms
if they want to receive money from the US.... all of this due to the
religio-fascists who have a strangle hold on that jerk in office.

I'm not very fond of the idea of giving money to governments for AIDs when
there is no accountability about where the money goes. Why do lefties
always think dumping more money into a problem is the best solution? I
wouldn't mind so much if it was their money they wanted to dump, but in
fact they always want it to be someone else's money, not theirs. That's a
big part of why it's wrong.

Sure. They should all die. Got it.

As for Obama vs McCain, I'm relatively ambivalent. Obama doesn't seem
stupid enough to change course in Iraq, no matter what he says. When he
continues the war on terror, as he must, more people will understand that
Bush isn't to blame for Islamic extremists and even gentle liberal lefties
need to wipe them off the face of the earth before they do the same to us.

Bush and Condi were warned about 9/11. They went on vacation.


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