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Brian D March 28th 04 08:30 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 
Hear hear! My job used to be rock solid and now I, and everyone else I know
on the job are always in fear of the next 'offshore outsourcing' that will
cause the local organization to be unneeded anymore. It's real, I know.
It's been happening more and more in the blue-chip company that I work for
and there's no slowing down...

Brian

http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass


wrote in message
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When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!
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I think you must know what I'm talking about. Together, a heavy foreign

accent,
coupled with a lousy phone connection can only mean one thing... An

outsourced
operation, in a place like India, China, The Philippines, etc.; where some
greedy American corporation is saving a few pieces of Silver and

displacing
American workers in the process.
-
The best thing you can do is hang up... look for the companies' on-shore

counterpart
and complain! Tell them you're sick and tired of sub-standard services by

people
who speak English so poorly that you can hardly communicate... are most

often
poorly trained... have little accountability for the advice they give

you... often can't be
heard clearly because of a poor satellite phone connection... conveniently

block
their caller-ID... give themselves phony names like 'Tina' or 'Jimmy' (to

deceive you
into thinking they're local) and most often provide no avenue to escalate

an issue
to someone who can really help.
-
Corporations will only end this practice if they see they're losing their

customer
base as a consequence. Let's start doing our part by starting a

grass-roots
movement...
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Glenn Ashmore March 28th 04 06:24 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection...HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 


Larry W4CSC wrote:

I've had to learn two new languages, here in Charleston,
SC.....Spanish, so I can communicate on the street....and Hindi so I
can communicate on the phone.


The thing is Larry, all the rest of us have to learn a new language just
to go to Charleston. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Larry W4CSC March 28th 04 06:26 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 
I've had to learn two new languages, here in Charleston,
SC.....Spanish, so I can communicate on the street....and Hindi so I
can communicate on the phone.

Wonder how long the country will tolerate this before the mass
killings begin?



On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 07:30:36 GMT, "Brian D"
wrote:

Hear hear! My job used to be rock solid and now I, and everyone else I know
on the job are always in fear of the next 'offshore outsourcing' that will
cause the local organization to be unneeded anymore. It's real, I know.
It's been happening more and more in the blue-chip company that I work for
and there's no slowing down...

Brian

http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

Brian D March 28th 04 07:51 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 
When our government QUITs letting illegal people remain here and QUITs
letting more in, and QUITs giving tax breaks to corporations moving
operations overseas and STARTs imposing high excise taxes on import ...THEN
you'll see American speaking English and working American jobs. There is no
good political party anymore ...was there ever?

Brian


"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:o_D9c.1662$9g.314@lakeread04...


Larry W4CSC wrote:

I've had to learn two new languages, here in Charleston,
SC.....Spanish, so I can communicate on the street....and Hindi so I
can communicate on the phone.


The thing is Larry, all the rest of us have to learn a new language just
to go to Charleston. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com




Gould 0738 March 28th 04 08:41 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 
I've had to learn two new languages, here in Charleston,
SC.....Spanish, so I can communicate on the street....and Hindi so I
can communicate on the phone.

Wonder how long the country will tolerate this before the mass
killings begin?


I think they will put up will the Anglophones a while longer. We're not in any
serious danger yet. :-)

Gould 0738 March 28th 04 09:00 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!! (somewhat off topic)
 
When our government QUITs letting illegal people remain here and QUITs
letting more in, and QUITs giving tax breaks to corporations moving
operations overseas and STARTs imposing high excise taxes on import ...THEN
you'll see American speaking English and working American jobs. There is no
good political party anymore ...was there ever?

Brian


We'll see people speaking English?
Contemplate for only a moment how and why English exists in the first place.
It's a
******* tongue built from scraps of Latin, Celtic, Saxon, Greek, German,
French, Norse, etc. "English" has changed more in the last 250 years than since
the 10th, 11th, or whatever century one could say we began to see a language
that roughly resembles English as we currently understand it.

English features one of the most extensive and complex vocabularies in
contemporary use. (If I recall correctly, we have 2-3 times as many words in
the lexicon as some other romance languages with Latin heritages.).

The result: our language is one of the most admired throughout the world. It is
an excellent written language, as there is less need to hear vocal inflection
to distinguish between conflicting meanings of words. Our language structure
allows us to define our exact meaning with modification and context, rather
than hand gestures or intonation.

We should embrace the foreign speakers, and see what they can bring to our
fabulous English smorgasbord. If we close our language to the inclusion of new
ideas, it will shrink. English has become what it is (and what people hope to
preserve) precisely by including additional languages. The presence of foreign
languages in our midst enhances, rather than detracts, from the rich body of
the English language.

I say, "bring 'em on!" (oops...somebody else recently made that line
famous)....

Sorry for the off topic rant......bad habit left over from an old newsgroup!




taxpayer March 28th 04 09:18 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection...HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 
You voted for it and you got it. If you didn't vote for George 43, you
probably did vote for one of the senators that is keeping him for
getting the federal courts back to required staffing. The senate has
even prevented judicial nominees that slick Willie proposed from even
getting to a vote.

Illegals get to stay in this country because it costs us a small fortune
in legal fees to get anybody deported, even if the officers just watched
him swim the Rio Grand.

More will keep coming in unless we pay a lot more in taxes or give up
some of the social programs that this welfare state we live is addicted
to. The border patrol officer have to all go back to the station at
shift change because they are not funded well enough to have vehicles
that can relieve on station. Their budget did not increase with
everything else for most of the last decade.

The only tax break given to companies that "offshore" product is the
relief they get from not having to deal with multilayer taxes (taxes
paid on other taxes) and incredible state bureaucracies.

You can't Excise tax an import only, but you can impost a duty or import
tax. But, any the US does this the WTO rules it as "exclusionary" or
"protectionist" and authorizes duties on US goods (usually farm
products) that far exceed the value of the duty. This even occurs when
a product is produced by a state-owner or subsidized company.

If you are going to live in this country much longer, you better learn
to love speaking Spanish. The USA does not have any law, code or rules
that determine a national language. That is why ballots for all
elections (including federal) and driver's examinations have to be
available any language. Pubic schools can must provide instruction in
the student's families' language of choice. You can not say native
language, because many are third or forth generation citizens.

As a country - we will be torn apart by the “acceptance of cultural
diversity” that many think is so valuable. This country has stopped
trying to be the melting pot that made us the power we once were and is
set to be come a crazy quilt where everyone of free from any chance of
being offended by anything.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Democracy will last until the populace discover that they can vote
themselves emoluments from the public treasury. - Thomas Macaulay
Brian D wrote:

When our government QUITs letting illegal people remain here and QUITs
letting more in, and QUITs giving tax breaks to corporations moving
operations overseas and STARTs imposing high excise taxes on import ...THEN
you'll see American speaking English and working American jobs. There is no
good political party anymore ...was there ever?

Brian


"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:o_D9c.1662$9g.314@lakeread04...


Larry W4CSC wrote:


I've had to learn two new languages, here in Charleston,
SC.....Spanish, so I can communicate on the street....and Hindi so I
can communicate on the phone.


The thing is Larry, all the rest of us have to learn a new language just
to go to Charleston. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com






Don White March 28th 04 09:48 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!! (somewhat off topic)
 

Gould 0738 wrote in message
...
snip...
I say, "bring 'em on!" (oops...somebody else recently made that line
famous)....

Sorry for the off topic rant......bad habit left over from an old

newsgroup!


Keep that up Chuck and you may encourage a few of your old 'sparring
partners' from that other newsgroup to show up. :-)



Brian D March 29th 04 01:57 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 

No, I didn't vote for 'it'. Not unless some politician was mis-representing
his/herself. However, you make a lot of good points and illustrate how
screwed up things have become ...maybe hopelessly so. As a professional who
has on many occasions worked directly to 'offshore' the work that we all
wish was here (you have to do what you are told), I got the impression that
the primary reasons were taxes/cost on product produced, not so much the
labor cost differences. At least in the world of high volume manufacturing,
that's the way it was. Now I'm in a part of the company that requires lower
volume manufacturing, much of it 'manual automation' (uh huh), and there was
never any consideration for having it in the United States. Personally, I'd
rather live through a recession/depression and start over. Don't export
unless they buy more than they sell. Why can some nutless country operate
with a trade deficit that works against the US and we don't turn it around?
Don't import unless there are enough duties on the goods to make them as
expensive as similar products in the US. F*&# the middle east and produce
our own oil. We'd have to drill some additional known areas ...but how low
do you think they'd drop the price if they knew they had to? Remember? WE
use the majority of the oil ...why are we being man-handled by *them*? When
is the big gorilla going to look in the mirror and realize it's strength?
Want to see willing workers to 'displace' the illegal immigrants? Kill
welfare. Done. Lots of willing workers. Go back to the idea of poor farms
....don't like hoeing beets and living in bunk beds with 49 other people at a
time? Get a job.

Protectionist? Too bad. We consume the most and have the most leverage.
They can play strong arm games for a little while, but they'll eventually
figure out who the big boys are.

Brian


"taxpayer" wrote in message
...
You voted for it and you got it. If you didn't vote for George 43, you
probably did vote for one of the senators that is keeping him for
getting the federal courts back to required staffing. The senate has
even prevented judicial nominees that slick Willie proposed from even
getting to a vote.

Illegals get to stay in this country because it costs us a small fortune
in legal fees to get anybody deported, even if the officers just watched
him swim the Rio Grand.

More will keep coming in unless we pay a lot more in taxes or give up
some of the social programs that this welfare state we live is addicted
to. The border patrol officer have to all go back to the station at
shift change because they are not funded well enough to have vehicles
that can relieve on station. Their budget did not increase with
everything else for most of the last decade.

The only tax break given to companies that "offshore" product is the
relief they get from not having to deal with multilayer taxes (taxes
paid on other taxes) and incredible state bureaucracies.

You can't Excise tax an import only, but you can impost a duty or import
tax. But, any the US does this the WTO rules it as "exclusionary" or
"protectionist" and authorizes duties on US goods (usually farm
products) that far exceed the value of the duty. This even occurs when
a product is produced by a state-owner or subsidized company.

If you are going to live in this country much longer, you better learn
to love speaking Spanish. The USA does not have any law, code or rules
that determine a national language. That is why ballots for all
elections (including federal) and driver's examinations have to be
available any language. Pubic schools can must provide instruction in
the student's families' language of choice. You can not say native
language, because many are third or forth generation citizens.

As a country - we will be torn apart by the “acceptance of cultural
diversity” that many think is so valuable. This country has stopped
trying to be the melting pot that made us the power we once were and is
set to be come a crazy quilt where everyone of free from any chance of
being offended by anything.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Democracy will last until the populace discover that they can vote
themselves emoluments from the public treasury. - Thomas Macaulay
Brian D wrote:

When our government QUITs letting illegal people remain here and QUITs
letting more in, and QUITs giving tax breaks to corporations moving
operations overseas and STARTs imposing high excise taxes on import

....THEN
you'll see American speaking English and working American jobs. There

is no
good political party anymore ...was there ever?

Brian


"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:o_D9c.1662$9g.314@lakeread04...


Larry W4CSC wrote:


I've had to learn two new languages, here in Charleston,
SC.....Spanish, so I can communicate on the street....and Hindi so I
can communicate on the phone.

The thing is Larry, all the rest of us have to learn a new language just
to go to Charleston. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com








Ed Price March 29th 04 02:00 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!
 

"taxpayer" wrote in message
...
You voted for it and you got it. If you didn't vote for George 43, you
probably did vote for one of the senators that is keeping him for
getting the federal courts back to required staffing. The senate has
even prevented judicial nominees that slick Willie proposed from even
getting to a vote.

Illegals get to stay in this country because it costs us a small fortune
in legal fees to get anybody deported, even if the officers just watched
him swim the Rio Grand.



Being rather close to the border action, I would say that the real reason we
have such a large permanent illegal alien population is the pandering of the
political parties (mostly the Democrats, with their concept on
"inclusiveness" to achieve power) to the loud-mouth, seditious Chicano
activists. They promise to deliver the Latin vote, garnering special
privileges and favoritism that's cancerous to our republic. Meanwhile, the
activists encourage non-assimilation into our culture, as this would erode
their own power base. Through all the talk, and double-talk, the Mexican
population of America grows by maybe 1.5M per year. Spanish ballots,
drivers' licenses for illegals, public documents doubled in size to
accommodate a Spanish translation, bilingual education, money for "arts"
programs that celebrate the homicidal psychotics of the Aztec Empire.

If you want to know what the real program is, just think Aztlan, from
Spokane to Denver to New Orleans. Considering the zeal of the immigrative
and reproductive warriors, even that might be too modest. Of course, we
can't say these obvious truths, since anyone pointing this out would
immediately be discredited as a racist, elitist xenophobe.

I keep trying to vote the rascals out, but there appears to be an infinite
supply of rascals.

Ed
(deep in the heart of Aztlan)


Jim March 29th 04 02:51 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection...HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 
Had a call at 8:00 this AM from a collection agency. I had opened a
charge account with 90 days free interest. Couldn't understand the
caller (and wasn't in a good mood, since she woke me up), asked to speak
to a supervisor, who also spoke broken english. I asked where he was
calling from and you guessed it -- India. Told him to never call me
again, and was so steamed I came down and paid the bill in full (I had
intended to pay it the first of the month), closed the account and
enclosed a note to GE credit that until they assured me that they had
local (US) call centers, would not avail myself of their services again.

The bill was not overdue, but a close reading of the fine print told me
that I was to make a monthly payment (in spite of the fact that I had 90
days to pay, and was well within the 90 day limit)

Copies to GE corperate, and S&K menswear (where I had opened the account)

Brian D wrote:
Hear hear! My job used to be rock solid and now I, and everyone else I know
on the job are always in fear of the next 'offshore outsourcing' that will
cause the local organization to be unneeded anymore. It's real, I know.
It's been happening more and more in the blue-chip company that I work for
and there's no slowing down...

Brian

http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass


wrote in message
...

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!
-
I think you must know what I'm talking about. Together, a heavy foreign


accent,

coupled with a lousy phone connection can only mean one thing... An


outsourced

operation, in a place like India, China, The Philippines, etc.; where some
greedy American corporation is saving a few pieces of Silver and


displacing

American workers in the process.
-
The best thing you can do is hang up... look for the companies' on-shore


counterpart

and complain! Tell them you're sick and tired of sub-standard services by


people

who speak English so poorly that you can hardly communicate... are most


often

poorly trained... have little accountability for the advice they give


you... often can't be

heard clearly because of a poor satellite phone connection... conveniently


block

their caller-ID... give themselves phony names like 'Tina' or 'Jimmy' (to


deceive you

into thinking they're local) and most often provide no avenue to escalate


an issue

to someone who can really help.
-
Corporations will only end this practice if they see they're losing their


customer

base as a consequence. Let's start doing our part by starting a


grass-roots

movement...
-
When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!
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Brian Nystrom March 29th 04 12:51 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection...HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 


Brian D wrote:
When our government QUITs letting illegal people remain here and QUITs
letting more in, and QUITs giving tax breaks to corporations moving
operations overseas and STARTs imposing high excise taxes on import ...THEN
you'll see American speaking English and working American jobs.


Sure, then all the cheap products and services we've gotten used to will
disappear or increase dramatically in price, so your higher wages won't
buy you a damn thing. It's nice to sling simple answers around, but the
economy is far too complex for them to be useful. All this whining about
"outsourcing" and "offshoring" is nothing but a huge red herring. This
is nothing new (it's been going on for decades) and it accounts for only
~10% of the job losses we've suffered. The only difference now is in the
types of jobs that are going overseas. It used to be only blue-collar
manufacturing jobs, but now that it's white-collar tech and service jobs
too, people are getting all worked up over it.

If we continue to demand cheap products and services - something that
isn't likely to change - the trend to move jobs offshore will continue
too. Protectionism has never worked, it never will and it's not the
answer. Whether you like the global economy or not, it's reality. We all
have to live with it and adapt to it. The key to improving the job
market is to get the economy rolling again, but that takes time. The
indications are good, but it's not going to happen overnight, no matter
how much we complain or who's running the country.


Brian Nystrom March 29th 04 12:55 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection...HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 


Brian D wrote:

We consume the most and have the most leverage.


Therin lies a big part of the problem. We can't be both the biggest
consumer and the biggest exporter. We over-consume and end up having to
live with a huge trade deficit. It's our own fault.


Larry W4CSC March 30th 04 03:28 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:24:32 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



Larry W4CSC wrote:

I've had to learn two new languages, here in Charleston,
SC.....Spanish, so I can communicate on the street....and Hindi so I
can communicate on the phone.


The thing is Larry, all the rest of us have to learn a new language just
to go to Charleston. :-)


Now, that's not quite true! Geechees have to learn a new language
just to go to the state capital. No wonder they don't think
Charleston is part of South Carolina...hee hee.

Tell you what, we'll start our own reality show. I'll put you in a
car and drive you out to Rockville on the end of Wadmalaw Island, just
south of The City. We'll set a time limit, say 3 weeks, and see if
you can communicate in SC Coastal Gullah that you'd like to come back
to town. Should be very interesting! I fix the church organs out on
the outer islands for the United Methodists, African
Methodist-Episcopal (AME) and Baptists. I already speak Gullah,
Geechee and English. Why do I have to learn more languages??

If we'd had any sense, we'd have let the Gullah speakers take over
secure communications in WW2, as well as the Navahos. The Germans
would have stood no chance at all of reading our secure message
traffic.................and noone would have needed a code book...(c;



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

nospam March 30th 04 05:23 AM

When you hear the Heavy Accent (outsourcing and immigration debate)
 
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:00:52 -0800, "Ed Price"
wrote:

In re the immigration debate.


It's called "invasion and conquest by immigration" and I'm afraid it's
gone so far there is no hope of liberating ourselves unless, of
course, the French are willing to come over and do for us what we did
for them a few years back. Highly uinlikely since France, with its
own immigration/conquest is rapidly becoming a Muslim-controlled
nation and God knows Islam is not going to do anything for us Infidels
other than dispatch us straight to Hell with not even 20 virgins to
accompany us..

Somebody in this thread said the Democrats are to blame for seeking to
expand their power base by catering to them so that they could be
added to Democratic voter roles. This was probably true in the
beginning but the Republicans are now Hell bent on catching up, viz
George XLII and his pandering to them via "legalization" proposals.

Some mush-brained fool--probably a univ. prof.--said, in a preceding
thread, how wonderful it was that this invasion is allowing us to
incorporate new words into our language. I guess his mind is back in
1066. He probably believes that we, the English-speaking population
of this country, will benefit just as the primitives of the British
Isles benefited from Guillaume's little invasion. Of course,
Guillaume did it honestly at Hastings. He didn't sneak his invaders
across the Channel (substitute Rio Grande) in small groups over
decades. More significantly, William didn't have a band of academic
fifth-columnists undermining his target with drivelings about
"multi-culturalism."

In any case we better all learn to face the east when we pray (after
all, our president said it was "one of the world's great religions"
and we sure as hell better learn Spanish because our culture is bound
to disappear as the invaders show no interest at all in adopting our
language and our culture. The great promise of "multiculturalism"
doesn't really hold out much hope if we only look at the mayhem it is
producing in the rest of the world today. And if only some of these
addle-brained academics who are forming the minds of the next
generation would take a look at the writings of their not-too-distant
predecesors they would see that "multiculturalism" was the principal
cause of the collapse of the Roman Empire. The decline really began
when Rome began to grant its precious "citizenship" to all comers.

Sic transit gloria mundi.









JimB March 30th 04 09:51 AM

When you hear the Heavy Accent (outsourcing and immigration debate)
 
Some pretty heavy stuff in this thread.

You'd never guess that some of it is coming from the descendants
of a group of immigrants who almost wiped out a whole native
population . . .

JimB


nospam wrote in message
...
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:00:52 -0800, "Ed Price"


wrote:

In re the immigration debate.


It's called "invasion and conquest by immigration" and I'm

afraid it's
gone so far there is no hope of liberating ourselves unless, of
course, the French are willing to come over and do for us what

we did
for them a few years back. Highly uinlikely since France, with

its
own immigration/conquest is rapidly becoming a

Muslim-controlled
nation and God knows Islam is not going to do anything for us

Infidels
other than dispatch us straight to Hell with not even 20

virgins to
accompany us..

Somebody in this thread said the Democrats are to blame for

seeking to
expand their power base by catering to them so that they could

be
added to Democratic voter roles. This was probably true in

the
beginning but the Republicans are now Hell bent on catching up,

viz
George XLII and his pandering to them via "legalization"

proposals.

Some mush-brained fool--probably a univ. prof.--said, in a

preceding
thread, how wonderful it was that this invasion is allowing us

to
incorporate new words into our language. I guess his mind is

back in
1066. He probably believes that we, the English-speaking

population
of this country, will benefit just as the primitives of the

British
Isles benefited from Guillaume's little invasion. Of course,
Guillaume did it honestly at Hastings. He didn't sneak his

invaders
across the Channel (substitute Rio Grande) in small groups over
decades. More significantly, William didn't have a band of

academic
fifth-columnists undermining his target with drivelings about
"multi-culturalism."

In any case we better all learn to face the east when we pray

(after
all, our president said it was "one of the world's great

religions"
and we sure as hell better learn Spanish because our culture is

bound
to disappear as the invaders show no interest at all in

adopting our
language and our culture. The great promise of

"multiculturalism"
doesn't really hold out much hope if we only look at the mayhem

it is
producing in the rest of the world today. And if only some of

these
addle-brained academics who are forming the minds of the next
generation would take a look at the writings of their

not-too-distant
predecesors they would see that "multiculturalism" was the

principal
cause of the collapse of the Roman Empire. The decline really

began
when Rome began to grant its precious "citizenship" to all

comers.

Sic transit gloria mundi.











Gould 0738 March 30th 04 03:22 PM

When you hear the Heavy Accent (outsourcing and immigration debate)
 
Some pretty heavy stuff in this thread.

You'd never guess that some of it is coming from the descendants
of a group of immigrants who almost wiped out a whole native
population . . .



That, in its time, displaced an even older population in the same hemisphere.

Kennewick Man.

The more we learn, the more amazing the human story becomes. It's why we should
welcome more cultural traditions.............
(but those who bring said traditions should immigrate legally)

JimB March 30th 04 04:12 PM

When you hear the Heavy Accent (outsourcing and immigration debate)
 

Gould 0738 wrote in message
...
Some pretty heavy stuff in this thread.

You'd never guess that some of it is coming from the

descendants
of a group of immigrants who almost wiped out a whole native
population . . .



That, in its time, displaced an even older population in the

same hemisphere.

Kennewick Man.

The more we learn, the more amazing the human story becomes.

It's why we should
welcome more cultural traditions.............
(but those who bring said traditions should immigrate legally)


In spite of the economic pressures 'sucking' them across the
borders? Ah, I forgot, there's no such force as suction!



Gould 0738 March 31st 04 03:52 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 
In a related vein......

There must be something dreadful happening in Africa! Maybe a political
uprising, or a deadly plague that is being kept secret from us all. If you have
any relatives in Africa, encourage them to move
off the continent as soon as possible.

In the last week, I must have received a e-mail dozen notices that oil company
executives had died in Africa, leaving substantial fortunes behind. Believe it
or not, every one of these people listed *me* as next of kin! If so many people
are dying in Africa that a
whole boatload of relatives I never even heard of
have redently kicked the bucket, think what the overall death rate must be.

Truly astonishing.

Guess I should start shopping for that new multi-million dollar yacht. With all
these mysterious oil company relatives dying off, it will be more affordable
than ever.


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Jim March 31st 04 04:16 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection...HANG UP!! ____ UGYAiMGRr
 
Gould 0738 wrote:
In a related vein......

There must be something dreadful happening in Africa! Maybe a political
uprising, or a deadly plague that is being kept secret from us all. If you have
any relatives in Africa, encourage them to move
off the continent as soon as possible.

In the last week, I must have received a e-mail dozen notices that oil company
executives had died in Africa, leaving substantial fortunes behind. Believe it
or not, every one of these people listed *me* as next of kin! If so many people
are dying in Africa that a
whole boatload of relatives I never even heard of
have redently kicked the bucket, think what the overall death rate must be.

Truly astonishing.

Guess I should start shopping for that new multi-million dollar yacht. With all
these mysterious oil company relatives dying off, it will be more affordable
than ever.


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