yup, me AND the career merchant marine, both lost. Or more accurately, neither
he nor I completely trusted the charts to be completely accurate. That's the
same as being lost, I guess.

You keep saying this over, and over, but the truth is, you were lost. Its
pretty clear that your captain had no faith in his own ability, or yours.
The
only other explanation is that you had absolutely no idea what was going on.
Actually, I'd say both were true.




"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...

If I were lost, so was the owner of the boat, a merchant marine of decades
experience and decades of offshore racing experience as well. Good company
it
seems.

You drifted for 6 hours???

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yup, me AND the career merchant marine, both lost. Or more accurately,
neither
he nor I completely trusted the charts to be completely accurate. That's the
same as being lost, I guess.

You keep saying this over, and over, but the truth is, you were lost. Its
pretty clear that your captain had no faith in his own ability, or yours.
The
only other explanation is that you had absolutely no idea what was going on.
Actually, I'd say both were true.




"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...

If I were lost, so was the owner of the boat, a merchant marine of decades
experience and decades of offshore racing experience as well. Good company
it
seems.

Subject: Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
From: (JAXAshby)

Jax, you were nothing but signed on baggage/muscle. If this guy was REALLY a
"career merchant marine" with some type of deck license, YOU would be the LAST
person he would confer with about his position.
Your, or I should say his, problem had nothing to do with the accuracy of the
charts (especially considering the number of GPS's, onboard) .... it had
EVERYTHING to do with NOT knowing where you were and where you were going.
Obviously, you've never learned ..... on boats or ships, people like you (no
knowledge, no experience, no ability) are meant to be used ..... not heard
(exceptions noted .... you don't qualify).

Shen

yup, me AND the career merchant marine, both lost. Or more accurately,
neither
he nor I completely trusted the charts to be completely accurate. That's the
same as being lost, I guess.

s

C'mon folks, let's not let Jax turn this into wrecked.botes. I blocked him
long ago, so I never even see his posts unless someone responds. Let's not
destroy this NG too.

--


Keith
__
'I had to hit him -- he was starting to make sense.'
"Shen44" wrote in message
...
Subject: Best 34 foot blue water cruiser

C'mon folks, let's not let Jax turn this into wrecked.botes. I blocked him
long ago, so I never even see his posts unless someone responds. Let's not
destroy this NG too.

"Keith" is not reading this, so let's laugh at him for suggesting that the best
way to learn about boats is to read the most current advertising specs of price
point bay sailor boats. Let him tell that a bigger microwave is a safety
feature because it makes hot chocolate quicker than a smaller microwave "when
one is trying to claw off a lee shore". And a washer/dryer is a safety item
because one doesn't have to carry clothes down the dock to the laundromat where
muggers might hang out.

Don't confuse "keith" with anything real, for he is not going to go sailing
anyway. reality doesn't make a presence in his life. So just laugh at him.
maybe ask him about the latest anchor test showing that a 22# CQR with
stainless steel chain holds better in 8 knot winds than a 21# Bruce with
galvanized chain in 7-1/2 knot winds.

"Keith" wrote:
C'mon folks, let's not let Jax turn this into wrecked.botes. I blocked him
long ago, so I never even see his posts unless someone responds. Let's not
destroy this NG too.

The best advice is always, "Don't feed the trolls." I admit that I've
sometimes responded to a Jax post because he's just soooo clueless and
sometimes I'm in a cruel mood.

Eventually he'll drop out of this particular manic phase and hit his
depressive phase and we'll be rid of him for a while again.

Frank

frank, I know you won't understand this, but I am posting it anyway so that
other people can laugh at you.

you see, frank, when someone is REALLY dumb they are too dumb to even begin to
realize they are dumb. most usually these really dumb ones -- such as yourself
-- just go right on claimig they personally knew everything it was possible to
know by the time they got out of 6th grade the second time.

got you have gainful employment, frank. wouldn't want you to be a drain on your
country's welfare system.

you may continue to babble, frank.


The best advice is always, "Don't feed the trolls." I admit that I've
sometimes responded to a Jax post because he's just soooo clueless and
sometimes I'm in a cruel mood.

Eventually he'll drop out of this particular manic phase and hit his
depressive phase and we'll be rid of him for a while again.

Frank

(JAXAshby) wrote:
frank, I know you won't understand this, but I am posting it anyway so that
other people can laugh at you.
you see, frank, when someone is REALLY dumb they are too dumb to even begin to
realize they are dumb. most usually these really dumb ones -- such as yourself
-- just go right on claimig they personally knew everything it was possible to
know by the time they got out of 6th grade the second time.
got you have gainful employment, frank. wouldn't want you to be a drain on your
country's welfare system.
you may continue to babble, frank.

Thanks. Here's a babble just for you.

Every time Jax opens his mouth, he's as fallacious as a rapper's
chickenhead is fellatious.

A partial list of Jax's most frequent fallacies:

ad hominem and tu quoque: Jax always goes straight to the ad hominem.
If someone else beats him to an insult ("Jax, you're an idiot!"), his
fallback is the tu quoque. "No! You're an idiot!"

ad verecundiam: Then there are all the famous (to him) people he
knows. This constitutes arguing from an authority. "I know a(n
important) guy who says you can sail upwind under bare poles." And the
self-aggrandizing version, "I had sex with a Playboy bunny. Therefore,
I am a desirable person." Of course, we know that one is *kinda* true.
Masturbating while looking at a certerfold is, technically, having sex
with a Playboy bunny.

ad numerum, refined by ad crumenam: The ad numerum gets him to the
ballpark where he wants to play. "Most smart people (in the Jax
universe) believe X." From there, he refines it to an elitist version
with an ad crumenam. "The very smartest people (Jax himself and maybe
God, on one of His good days) believe XsubY." Usually with an ad
hominem thrown in, just because that seems to be his favorite, "But
*you* are a low-IQ prole and couldn't even understand X, much less
XsubY."

ad nauseum: Y'all know this one. "I'm smarter than all of you." "I'm
smart; you're dumb." "My middle name is MENSA." "My IQ is eight
bazillion, based on a test I took once, given by a group which would
get membership dues from me if I scored at least eight bazillion. And
I did!" "Did I mention how smart I am?" And on, and on...

non causa pro causa: Declaring that independent events actually have a
cause-and-effect relationship. "I couldn't find the Gulf Stream.
Therefore, the Gulf Stream is difficult to find." Well, I guess a
psychologist might wanna call that one "transference" or something.
It's the Gulf Stream's fault, not mine.

and frank gladly shows one and all that he is not really, really, really,
really dumb by being really, really, really, really dumb (note the incorrect
usage of the word "transference" he just today found in the dictionary).

frank, I know you won't understand this, but I am posting it anyway so that
other people can laugh at you.
you see, frank, when someone is REALLY dumb they are too dumb to even begin
to
realize they are dumb. most usually these really dumb ones -- such as
yourself
-- just go right on claimig they personally knew everything it was possible
to
know by the time they got out of 6th grade the second time.
got you have gainful employment, frank. wouldn't want you to be a drain on
your
country's welfare system.
you may continue to babble, frank.

Thanks. Here's a babble just for you.

Every time Jax opens his mouth, he's as fallacious as a rapper's
chickenhead is fellatious.

A partial list of Jax's most frequent fallacies:

ad hominem and tu quoque: Jax always goes straight to the ad hominem.
If someone else beats him to an insult ("Jax, you're an idiot!"), his
fallback is the tu quoque. "No! You're an idiot!"

ad verecundiam: Then there are all the famous (to him) people he
knows. This constitutes arguing from an authority. "I know a(n
important) guy who says you can sail upwind under bare poles." And the
self-aggrandizing version, "I had sex with a Playboy bunny. Therefore,
I am a desirable person." Of course, we know that one is *kinda* true.
Masturbating while looking at a certerfold is, technically, having sex
with a Playboy bunny.

ad numerum, refined by ad crumenam: The ad numerum gets him to the
ballpark where he wants to play. "Most smart people (in the Jax
universe) believe X." From there, he refines it to an elitist version
with an ad crumenam. "The very smartest people (Jax himself and maybe
God, on one of His good days) believe XsubY." Usually with an ad
hominem thrown in, just because that seems to be his favorite, "But
*you* are a low-IQ prole and couldn't even understand X, much less
XsubY."

ad nauseum: Y'all know this one. "I'm smarter than all of you." "I'm
smart; you're dumb." "My middle name is MENSA." "My IQ is eight
bazillion, based on a test I took once, given by a group which would
get membership dues from me if I scored at least eight bazillion. And
I did!" "Did I mention how smart I am?" And on, and on...

non causa pro causa: Declaring that independent events actually have a
cause-and-effect relationship. "I couldn't find the Gulf Stream.
Therefore, the Gulf Stream is difficult to find." Well, I guess a
psychologist might wanna call that one "transference" or something.
It's the Gulf Stream's fault, not mine.