jaxie, you're always quick to claim that you "know someone" or "sailed with
someone" as if this really makes you look like a real sailor. But whenever you
tell your stories it becomes clear that the only rides you can get are with
total losers. Now you're claiming that the "professional" captain was a fraud
and a bozo. You claim to be the "engine expert" but you seem to be saying that
you called the Coast Guard rather than even look to see if the intake was
fouled.

On your great "Cape Hatteras Adventure" you had three GPS's and were about to
"turn back" because you couldn't find the Light and were afraid of hitting the
"rocks." But you never looked at a chart then, or after the fact to see where
you were.

Extra heat in the cabin??? I suppose it could happen, but in a proper setup by
the time you noticed the increase you would likely have done some damage, if
only to the hoses. Without a gauge, it more likely the first sign would be the
smell of paint burning off the engine.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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jeffies, the discussion you quoted had to do with the likelihood that the CG
would respond to a voice page.

Also, as I have explained to you before, *I* did not the declare an emergency,
the hired captain of the boat did along with the owner of the boat. It was
the
third "emergency" in five days, a time period in which we made just 110 miles.
I left the boat when I was finally towed to shore, suddenly remembering a
"business meeting" I had to prepare for.

Again, I did not declare an emergency. I did try to raise the CG when the
hired captain and boat owner couldn't figure out how to use the handheld or
fixed mount radio.

btw, the engine *may* have been running hot, but I did not check. the hired
captain stated it as a fact and the owner accepted it as a fact. I mentioned
I
did not see any steam and did not feel the extra warmth in the cabin an
overheated engine would normally bring, but the hired captain told me the
engine overheated.

btw-2: the CG contacted me later to ask if I had seen a copy of the hired
captain's Masters License. I said I had not and would not have asked to see
one and didn't care if he had one. the planned trip was short (300 miles),
the
weather looked good, and I was familar with the waters. CG indicated the
reason they were asking is that the hired captain did not have, and never did
have, any Masters License, and it had been reported elsewhere that he had
produced such to boat owners.


This is from someone who called in a MayDay on a clear, light air day, on
Long
Island Sound, because the engine was running a little hot. And then jaxie
complained because the coasties didn't come to the rescue!

Jaxie's exact quote:
"I was on a boat (in the middle of the Sound several miles from
either shore) with a disabled engine and neither the CG nor any towboat
service
answered on 16 or 9."

Later he insisted they weren't disabled, just running hot. I'm guessing they
recognized his voice.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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ANYone who thinks that way is a moral cretin.

You are going to endanger the life of a young coastie with wife and kids at
home just to rescue your scummy butt because you wanted to take your boat
where
you were not qualified to take it.

kriste almighty. You should be forcefully sterilized, and your children as
well should you already have childred.

what a putz.

jeffies, for the gazillionth time, *I* did not declare an emergency, the hired
captain did (long story, a story the CG investigated)

Now you're claiming that the "professional" captain was a fraud
and a bozo.

yup. and it is documented -- not by me -- by many others on another part of
the net.

You claim to be the "engine expert" but you seem to be saying that
you called the Coast Guard rather than even look to see if the intake was
fouled.

the hired captain insisted the engine overheated and the boat owner accepted
that statement. I had considered leaving the boat two days before when docked
to fix the first "emergency" and figured when we got to shore this time I would
indeed leave.

Extra heat in the cabin??? I suppose it could happen, but in a proper setup
by
the time you noticed the increase you would likely have done some damage, if
only to the hoses.

jeggies, you don't understand how much heat an overheated engine gives off how
quickly.

Without a gauge, it more likely the first sign would be the
smell of paint burning off the engine.

there was a guage visable to the hired captain.

So I was right! You DID call the Coast Guard without even looking at the
intake! What a PUTZ!!! You can keep telling your story about how it was the
other guy that "declared an emergency" but everyone else in this group would
have said, "wait a minute, I'll check the intake." But you had to show off that
you could call in a MayDay! I bet you've been practicing since you were 8
years old!



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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jeffies, for the gazillionth time, *I* did not declare an emergency, the hired
captain did (long story, a story the CG investigated)

Now you're claiming that the "professional" captain was a fraud
and a bozo.

yup. and it is documented -- not by me -- by many others on another part of
the net.

You claim to be the "engine expert" but you seem to be saying that
you called the Coast Guard rather than even look to see if the intake was
fouled.

the hired captain insisted the engine overheated and the boat owner accepted
that statement. I had considered leaving the boat two days before when docked
to fix the first "emergency" and figured when we got to shore this time I
would
indeed leave.

Extra heat in the cabin??? I suppose it could happen, but in a proper setup
by
the time you noticed the increase you would likely have done some damage, if
only to the hoses.

jeggies, you don't understand how much heat an overheated engine gives off how
quickly.

Without a gauge, it more likely the first sign would be the
smell of paint burning off the engine.

there was a guage visable to the hired captain.

jeggies, you fricken idiot. AGAIN I'll tell you. the hired the captain
declared the emergency, and the owner concurred. The hired captain tried to
call the coast guard and was unable to do much other than key the mike. the
owner tried as well, and he too had no idea if he even had the things (one
handheld and one fixed mount radio) turned on. After more than 10 minutes of
watching this (engine shut down, sails flapping unattended) I picked up the
mike and made sure the radios were transmitting (talk on one radio, listen on
the other).

now, which word didn't you understand the first three dozen times you asked the
question?

So I was right! You DID call the Coast Guard without even looking at the
intake!

btw, jeggies, I did then and do now believe the engine was not overheating, and
the hired captain just wanted to abort the trip because he was getting on
another boat (much larger) shortly where he had women crew coming aboard.

This next boat was the undoing of the hired captain's fraud. The internet lit
up with complaints from the women about his groping behavior, followed shortly
by tales of the boat seriously damaged by bad handling, followed shortly by
tales of the hired captain being fired with fireworks, followed shortly by
tales of forged Masters License.

I have not said much about the hired captain in the past and will not go into
details here. Let's just say that when the third "emergency" was declared I
saw it as an opportunity to leave the boat.

So you sat for ten minutes watching without doing anything! You didn't check
the intake? You didn't trim the sails? You are a complete WASTE! Jaxie, you
better quit, you're making this worse with every telling!




"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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jeggies, you fricken idiot. AGAIN I'll tell you. the hired the captain
declared the emergency, and the owner concurred. The hired captain tried to
call the coast guard and was unable to do much other than key the mike. the
owner tried as well, and he too had no idea if he even had the things (one
handheld and one fixed mount radio) turned on. After more than 10 minutes of
watching this (engine shut down, sails flapping unattended) I picked up the
mike and made sure the radios were transmitting (talk on one radio, listen on
the other).

now, which word didn't you understand the first three dozen times you asked
the
question?

So I was right! You DID call the Coast Guard without even looking at the
intake!

btw, jeggies, I did then and do now believe the engine was not overheating,
and
the hired captain just wanted to abort the trip because he was getting on
another boat (much larger) shortly where he had women crew coming aboard.

This next boat was the undoing of the hired captain's fraud. The internet lit
up with complaints from the women about his groping behavior, followed shortly
by tales of the boat seriously damaged by bad handling, followed shortly by
tales of the hired captain being fired with fireworks, followed shortly by
tales of forged Masters License.

I have not said much about the hired captain in the past and will not go into
details here. Let's just say that when the third "emergency" was declared I
saw it as an opportunity to leave the boat.

You didn't trim the sails?

actually, later while we waited several hours for the towboat to show up I did
in fact adjust the sails so that we were sailing (about 1/4 knot, maaaaybe 1/2
knot) towards the port the towboat was coming from. the hired captain adjusted
the sails so that we were heading away from port. I readjusted the sails and
was again making weigh towards port (we had the barest hint of winds, not even
enough to cause ripples on the water). This time the hired captain took the
sails down, wrapped sails around them and put on the sail cover on the main,
all -- he said -- to keep the sails from tearing. I then sat and waited for
what turned out to be a total of five (or six? or more?) hours for the towboat
to arrive.

Jaxie, you
better quit, you're making this worse with every telling!

jeggies, it was not my boat, and I was not the hired captain. what do expect I
should have done? hit the hired captain over the head with a winch handle?

You drifted for 6 hours without checking the intake??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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You didn't trim the sails?

actually, later while we waited several hours for the towboat to show up I did
in fact adjust the sails so that we were sailing (about 1/4 knot, maaaaybe 1/2
knot) towards the port the towboat was coming from. the hired captain
adjusted
the sails so that we were heading away from port. I readjusted the sails and
was again making weigh towards port (we had the barest hint of winds, not even
enough to cause ripples on the water). This time the hired captain took the
sails down, wrapped sails around them and put on the sail cover on the main,
all -- he said -- to keep the sails from tearing. I then sat and waited for
what turned out to be a total of five (or six? or more?) hours for the towboat
to arrive.

Jaxie, you
better quit, you're making this worse with every telling!

jeggies, it was not my boat, and I was not the hired captain. what do expect
I
should have done? hit the hired captain over the head with a winch handle?

But you never looked at a chart then, or after the fact to see where
you were.

we had up to date charts. the merchant marine with decades of experience, a
professional mariner who also had decades of offshore racing experience, didn't
wish to risk his boat by accepting as gospel that the charts were totally
accurate. I think that was prudent judgement on his part, and if I were the
boat owner instead of him I would have done the same thing. The lights were
where the obstructions were. The lights may or maybe not be accurately placed
on the charts.

it is easy to understand, jeggies. I don't know why you are having a problem
with it.

Jaxie, the light at Diamond Shoal is 7 miles from a hazard. Seven Friggin
Miles! And its a "18 mile" light. And you had 3 GPS's. And you can safely
navigate the area with a depth sounder alone. If you were within "20 seconds of
turning back" you were LOST!

I've been within a few minutes of turning back, but it was in thick fog without
instruments, close to serious hazards. It would NOT be 20 miles offshore, with
3 GPS's! The only way there could have been any doubt at all is if there was no
one on board who could be trusted to use a GPS or to read a chart. Given the
talent you've displayed here, that's not too far fetched.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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But you never looked at a chart then, or after the fact to see where
you were.

we had up to date charts. the merchant marine with decades of experience, a
professional mariner who also had decades of offshore racing experience,
didn't
wish to risk his boat by accepting as gospel that the charts were totally
accurate. I think that was prudent judgement on his part, and if I were the
boat owner instead of him I would have done the same thing. The lights were
where the obstructions were. The lights may or maybe not be accurately placed
on the charts.

it is easy to understand, jeggies. I don't know why you are having a problem
with it.

If you were within "20 seconds of
turning back" you were LOST!

30 seconds for me, before I spotted the light. the ower saw the light about 10
seconds after I did.

If I were lost, so was the owner of the boat, a merchant marine of decades
experience and decades of offshore racing experience as well. Good company it
seems.