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Isang tao pinangalanan, Wayne.B nagsulat:

On Thu, 08 May 2008 11:36:01 GMT, "Thomas, Spring Point Light"
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You killed "Flipper"?

Bad man... your boat is cursed..


No, no, no.

It was a Mahi Mahi.

Flipper is/was a Bottle Nosed Dolphin, aka, Porpoise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porpoise

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahi_Mahi



Bottle Nosed Dolphins and Porpoises are two different subspecies of
dolphins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottlenosed_dolphin
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On May 9, 12:09*pm, Claus Frørup wrote:

Bottle Nosed Dolphins and Porpoises are two different subspecies of
dolphins.


There may be some morphological diffrences however no taxonomical
diffrences. Dolphin and Porpois are common names and have NO
taxonomical use.
Bob
I wont begin to tell you abou the time I was a NMFS Marine Mamologist
deployed in the bering sea while working for NMML in seattle.... Uhh,
Bulding 7 Sand Point ......
how was that Roger?
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On Fri, 9 May 2008 17:35:57 -0700 (PDT), Bob
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On May 9, 12:09*pm, Claus Frørup wrote:

Bottle Nosed Dolphins and Porpoises are two different subspecies of
dolphins.


There may be some morphological diffrences however no taxonomical
diffrences. Dolphin and Porpois are common names and have NO
taxonomical use.
Bob
I wont begin to tell you abou the time I was a NMFS Marine Mamologist
deployed in the bering sea while working for NMML in seattle.... Uhh,
Bulding 7 Sand Point ......
how was that Roger?



Heh there bobby boy. You're full of big words, tell us, is bull****bob
one word, or not?


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Isang tao pinangalanan, Bob nagsulat:

On May 9, 12:09*pm, Claus Frørup wrote:

Bottle Nosed Dolphins and Porpoises are two different subspecies of
dolphins.


There may be some morphological diffrences however no taxonomical
diffrences. Dolphin and Porpois are common names and have NO
taxonomical use.


Their scientific classifications tell a different tale, as well as
their physical appearance.
Their behavior when interacting with humans alsos indicate two
complete different mammals.

The bottlenosed Dolphin can easily be trained to do specific tasks,
just like a dog.
And the Porpoise is extreemely difficult to train, just like your
household cat.

Any real marine mamologist knows that.

Bob
I wont begin to tell you abou the time I was a NMFS Marine Mamologist
deployed in the bering sea while working for NMML in seattle.... Uhh,
Bulding 7 Sand Point ......
how was that Roger?

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Any real marine mamologist knows that.

Bob
I wont begin to tell you abou the time I was a NMFS Marine Mamologist
deployed in the bering sea while working for NMML in seattle.... Uhh,
Bulding 7 Sand Point ......
how was that Roger?


Mamologist? Or mammologist?


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Isang tao pinangalanan, Gordon nagsulat:


Any real marine mamologist knows that.

Bob
I wont begin to tell you abou the time I was a NMFS Marine Mamologist
deployed in the bering sea while working for NMML in seattle.... Uhh,
Bulding 7 Sand Point ......
how was that Roger?


Mamologist? Or mammologist?


The first one. The last is a common misspell among mammals:-)

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On May 9, 11:10*pm, Claus Frørup wrote:

The bottlenosed Dolphin can easily be trained to do specific tasks,
just like a dog.
And the Porpoise is extreemely difficult to train, just like your
household cat.


Any real marine mamologist knows that.



Well, what can I say............. I had a cat that comes when I
whistle and would leave when I said "out"

How could i train a cat to do that? The same the way marine
entertainment industry train their odontocets ..
Here ya go, how do you get an odontocet to jump through a ring of
fire. After all theyre just a dumb fish right?

(Hint: Progressive approximation of the target behavior.)

But back to the porpoise dolphin debate........... There are NO
taxonomical diffrences between the two. Porposise and dolphine are
simply common names that lay persons use.

Go get this book. Its paperback and a typical NOAA white cover. It
will help inform you.

__________________________________________________ ____
Leatherwood, S., R.R. Reeves, W.F. Perrin and W. E. Evans
1988 Whales, Dolphins and Porpoises of the Eastern North
Pacific and Adjacent Arctic Waters. A guide to their identification.
Dover Press, NY. 245 p. (Corrected and slightly revised
republication of 1982 NOAA Tech Report, Circular 444.)
__________________________________________________ __

Id let ya use mine but i gave it to a 6th grade student some years ago
who was interested in pinipeds, a heated topic in the Columbia River
this last week.

Odontocets are a tremdous research area and a very popular topic. Good
luck with your search. When you have other questions please contact me
anytime.
Cordially,
Bob




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pinipeds, a heated topic in the Columbia River
this last week.


That would be salmon eating seals?

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On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:13:17 -0700 (PDT), Bob
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pinipeds, a heated topic in the Columbia River
this last week.


That would be salmon eating seals?

Casady


Yup........ the more common name is California Sea Lion. but seal will
work too.
A few sorta turned up dead just down stream of the Bonnie vill locks.

I dont know what the big deal is bout some salmon eating sea dogs.
Heck they were here eating salmon w a y b4 everyone started gettin so
uptight bout salmon. In fact early 1900s Columbia salmon were the
largest in the world AND had masive harbor seal and sea lion
populations. Seemed like there were enough salmon for pinipeds and
people then. Somthin musta happened. Humm I wonder whats diffrent now
Bob

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On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:13:17 -0700 (PDT), Bob
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pinipeds, a heated topic in the Columbia River
this last week.

That would be salmon eating seals?

Casady


Yup........ the more common name is California Sea Lion. but seal will
work too.
A few sorta turned up dead just down stream of the Bonnie vill locks.

I dont know what the big deal is bout some salmon eating sea dogs.
Heck they were here eating salmon w a y b4 everyone started gettin so
uptight bout salmon. In fact early 1900s Columbia salmon were the
largest in the world AND had masive harbor seal and sea lion
populations. Seemed like there were enough salmon for pinipeds and
people then. Somthin musta happened. Humm I wonder whats diffrent now
Bob


Actually, there use to be bounty on the critters and whether or not
you collected the bounty, it was always open season. In fact it still is
in the open sea.
When they became protected, the numbers shot up to where there is no
longer enough food to go around and the critters are going up rivers
such as the Lewis where they have never been seen before.
They are also destroying the herring runs in Puget Sound. Adult,
spawner herring gather in certain areas before spawning and the
pinnepeds are devastating them. Course, less herring, less salmon.
Less salmon, even hungrier pinnipeds.
Believe it or not, in lower Puget Sound, the majority of their food
intake is sculpins.
It's kinda like the reintroduction of wolves. All of a sudden they are
everywhere. Wyoming now has an unrestricted hunt for em. Need the same
for the pinnepeds, at least to make the numbers manageable.
The one bright light is that it is inevitable that disease will hit and
wipe out the weakest.
Yeah, I use to be on the Pacific Fisheries Council and have studied
all the background material.
I also know its hard to go up against pictures of cuddly white seal
pups being clubbed for their fur.
Course, as far as salmon go, the nylon curtains are tough to get by also.
Gordon


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