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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:50:53 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
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Never mind the rag heads, I'm surprised that the 'mericans who's
buying power for foreign (Chinese) goods has decreased by about 30%
aren't cleaning the muskets and casting bullets.


Muskets use balls, not bullets which are elongated and need spin to
make them fly right, and have to be shot from rifles. The balls are
..75 inch, bigger than 12 ga and hit like a 12 ga deer slug. Deadly is
the word for them. And yes, Bush should be hanged.

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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:25:22 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
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Being a nit picker I should point out that muskets varied in caliber.
.75, .72, .69 and .58 were all common bores at various times.


The Brits made millions of the .75's and both sides in the war between
the states had rifled muskets, so called, in 58. .72 is 12 gauge,
which may not be a coincidence. The smoothbore muskets, unlike rifles,
could use birdshot, of concern to a farmer, if not a soldier. Shorten
the barrel so you can swing it, not just point it, and you have a
shotgun.

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:35:01 -0700, Gordon wrote:

Btw, anybody notice how the us dollar is now tracking the canadian
dollar? I expect an announcement before the end of Bush's term that we
are going to create a common currency with Canada and Mexico with the
Mexican being pegged at 10 to 1.


ain't gonna happen...this has been debated in our Parliament already and
we've decided not to create a common currency with the US or
Mexico...there was an analogy advanced of trying to swim with a 50lb
Bruce chained to one's neck... however we are looking at much more
attractive options such as the yuan or the rupee...apparently our
tarsands oil reserves are larger than the entire known reserves in the
world...and the Chinese and the Indians are interested buyers...

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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:02:21 -0500, Brian Whatcott
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:25:22 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:22:04 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:50:53 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

Never mind the rag heads, I'm surprised that the 'mericans who's
buying power for foreign (Chinese) goods has decreased by about 30%
aren't cleaning the muskets and casting bullets.

Muskets use balls, not bullets which are elongated and need spin to
make them fly right, and have to be shot from rifles. The balls are
.75 inch, bigger than 12 ga and hit like a 12 ga deer slug. Deadly is
the word for them. And yes, Bush should be hanged.

Casady


Yes, well you are technically correct however I thought that writing
"cleaning their muskets and casting their balls" might be a bit
confusing. "Casting their BALLS....."

Being a nit picker I should point out that muskets varied in caliber.
.75, .72, .69 and .58 were all common bores at various times.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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Hmmm...this must be a nit-pickers' benefit!
Bullets can be round or cylindrical (OED definition)

Brian W


I suppose if you want to be dictionarily correct a bullet is "A
projectile that is fired from a gun". However, in the trade the word
"bullet" is normally used to describe a cylindrical projectile while a
round ball is call just that.

Sort of like a mouse being one thing to a computer geek and another
thing to my maiden aunt.


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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:31:17 GMT, (Richard
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:25:22 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

Being a nit picker I should point out that muskets varied in caliber.
.75, .72, .69 and .58 were all common bores at various times.


The Brits made millions of the .75's and both sides in the war between
the states had rifled muskets, so called, in 58. .72 is 12 gauge,
which may not be a coincidence. The smoothbore muskets, unlike rifles,
could use birdshot, of concern to a farmer, if not a soldier. Shorten
the barrel so you can swing it, not just point it, and you have a
shotgun.

Casady


Again you are correct. the standard British musket was .75 cal flint
lock from about 1722 until 1838 when they were replaced with a
percussion lock weapon of the same caliber.

The so called "rifled muskets" were a totally different weapon and was
actually a large bore, .58 cal as you say, rifled weapon firing a
conical hollow base bullet that was small enough to be loaded easily
in a fouled weapon but expanded to fit the bore when fired.

Although not very accurate by modern standards the rifled musket was
astonishingly accurate when compared to a smooth bore musket with its
undersize ball. One of the reasons for the extremely high loss of life
during the War between the States was the early use of "musket"
tactics against weapons that were accurate at a distance.



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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:02:21 -0500, Brian Whatcott
wrote:


On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:25:22 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:


On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:22:04 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:


On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:50:53 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:


Never mind the rag heads, I'm surprised that the 'mericans who's
buying power for foreign (Chinese) goods has decreased by about 30%
aren't cleaning the muskets and casting bullets.

Muskets use balls, not bullets which are elongated and need spin to
make them fly right, and have to be shot from rifles. The balls are
.75 inch, bigger than 12 ga and hit like a 12 ga deer slug. Deadly is
the word for them. And yes, Bush should be hanged.

Casady

Yes, well you are technically correct however I thought that writing
"cleaning their muskets and casting their balls" might be a bit
confusing. "Casting their BALLS....."

Being a nit picker I should point out that muskets varied in caliber.
.75, .72, .69 and .58 were all common bores at various times.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)



Hmmm...this must be a nit-pickers' benefit!
Bullets can be round or cylindrical (OED definition)

Brian W



I suppose if you want to be dictionarily correct a bullet is "A
projectile that is fired from a gun". However, in the trade the word
"bullet" is normally used to describe a cylindrical projectile while a
round ball is call just that.

Sort of like a mouse being one thing to a computer geek and another
thing to my maiden aunt.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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And "ball" amunition fired from a "rifle" is ???

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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:48:29 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
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/snip/
Never mind the rag heads, I'm surprised that the 'mericans who's
buying power for foreign (Chinese) goods has decreased by about 30%
aren't cleaning the muskets and casting bullets.


Hmmm...this must be a nit-pickers' benefit!
Bullets can be round or cylindrical (OED definition)

Brian W

***
I suppose if you want to be dictionarily correct a bullet is "A
projectile that is fired from a gun" /snip/
Bruce-in-Bangkok


Hehe...I thought it was *you* who wanted to be
lexicographically OK when you said
clean muskets, cast bullets....

....or was that someone else? :-)

Brian W
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