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mcorwin March 7th 04 12:47 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael




i March 7th 04 03:31 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
What is ICW?

"mcorwin" wrote in message
...
Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael






i March 7th 04 03:31 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
What is ICW?

"mcorwin" wrote in message
...
Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael






Capt Lou March 7th 04 03:40 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Intracoastal Waterway

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

Capt Lou March 7th 04 03:40 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Intracoastal Waterway

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

i March 7th 04 03:54 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Thank you



i March 7th 04 03:54 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Thank you



Larry W4CSC March 7th 04 04:15 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:47:10 -0500, "mcorwin"
wrote:

Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael



Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

Larry W4CSC March 7th 04 04:15 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:47:10 -0500, "mcorwin"
wrote:

Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael



Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

Gould 0738 March 7th 04 07:36 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!





Good news, Larry

NOAA has released electronic charts, free.

Here's the secret handshake:

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/index.htm

These are ENC format charts, and they require a "viewer". A viewer can be
downloaded, free, at www.fugawi.com/viewenc/viewenc.html

Gould 0738 March 7th 04 07:36 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!





Good news, Larry

NOAA has released electronic charts, free.

Here's the secret handshake:

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/index.htm

These are ENC format charts, and they require a "viewer". A viewer can be
downloaded, free, at www.fugawi.com/viewenc/viewenc.html

mcorwin March 7th 04 01:42 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
I don't know what I was thinking.
"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:47:10 -0500, "mcorwin"
wrote:

Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael



Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!





mcorwin March 7th 04 01:42 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
I don't know what I was thinking.
"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:47:10 -0500, "mcorwin"
wrote:

Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael



Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!





mcorwin March 7th 04 01:43 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Thank you for the info.
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!





Good news, Larry

NOAA has released electronic charts, free.

Here's the secret handshake:

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/index.htm

These are ENC format charts, and they require a "viewer". A viewer can be
downloaded, free, at www.fugawi.com/viewenc/viewenc.html





mcorwin March 7th 04 01:43 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Thank you for the info.
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!





Good news, Larry

NOAA has released electronic charts, free.

Here's the secret handshake:

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/index.htm

These are ENC format charts, and they require a "viewer". A viewer can be
downloaded, free, at www.fugawi.com/viewenc/viewenc.html





Steven Shelikoff March 7th 04 03:01 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 04:15:10 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:47:10 -0500, "mcorwin"
wrote:

Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael



Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!


I'm surprised to hear you complain about the gumint actually recouping
some of it's cost, a savings to the taxpayers, and even using private
industry to affect it. Is it because this just happens to be an area
that you'd like to benefit from even though the vast majority of
taxpayers have no use for free nautical charts?

Steve

Steven Shelikoff March 7th 04 03:01 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 04:15:10 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:47:10 -0500, "mcorwin"
wrote:

Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael



Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!


I'm surprised to hear you complain about the gumint actually recouping
some of it's cost, a savings to the taxpayers, and even using private
industry to affect it. Is it because this just happens to be an area
that you'd like to benefit from even though the vast majority of
taxpayers have no use for free nautical charts?

Steve

Steve March 7th 04 04:00 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Now, how about releasing the high resolution .tif files of the chart
scans...

With the, now, reasonable cost of scanner/reproduciton costs at copy shops,
we could download and print our own charts..

Oh! I think I hear that they are going to do that but we will have to go to
a licensed chart agent to print them out.. Sounds like another under the
table arrangement between NOAA and a group of chart agents.

The always skeptical,

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Steve March 7th 04 04:00 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Now, how about releasing the high resolution .tif files of the chart
scans...

With the, now, reasonable cost of scanner/reproduciton costs at copy shops,
we could download and print our own charts..

Oh! I think I hear that they are going to do that but we will have to go to
a licensed chart agent to print them out.. Sounds like another under the
table arrangement between NOAA and a group of chart agents.

The always skeptical,

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Gould 0738 March 7th 04 04:15 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Now, how about releasing the high resolution .tif files of the chart
scans...


Would be nice.

The original poster asked for a "website with ICW charts to view". Done. :-)

Gould 0738 March 7th 04 04:15 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Now, how about releasing the high resolution .tif files of the chart
scans...


Would be nice.

The original poster asked for a "website with ICW charts to view". Done. :-)

Glenn Ashmore March 7th 04 04:23 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
They are experimenting with that now at selected dealers. There is a
central server that the dealer can download charts from and print them
out on a special wide format printer with waterproof ink. That has a
lot of advantages for the dealer because he does not need to keep
inventory and for us because it makes the charts a lot more current. It
does not however mean we will be paying much less for the charts.

Steve wrote:
Now, how about releasing the high resolution .tif files of the chart
scans...

With the, now, reasonable cost of scanner/reproduciton costs at copy shops,
we could download and print our own charts..

Oh! I think I hear that they are going to do that but we will have to go to
a licensed chart agent to print them out.. Sounds like another under the
table arrangement between NOAA and a group of chart agents.

The always skeptical,

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Glenn Ashmore March 7th 04 04:23 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
They are experimenting with that now at selected dealers. There is a
central server that the dealer can download charts from and print them
out on a special wide format printer with waterproof ink. That has a
lot of advantages for the dealer because he does not need to keep
inventory and for us because it makes the charts a lot more current. It
does not however mean we will be paying much less for the charts.

Steve wrote:
Now, how about releasing the high resolution .tif files of the chart
scans...

With the, now, reasonable cost of scanner/reproduciton costs at copy shops,
we could download and print our own charts..

Oh! I think I hear that they are going to do that but we will have to go to
a licensed chart agent to print them out.. Sounds like another under the
table arrangement between NOAA and a group of chart agents.

The always skeptical,

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Steve March 7th 04 04:50 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
I'm coping and printing DMA charts at a local print/copy shop on a large
format scanner for $4 a chart. Admittedly, it's in B/W and not waterproof
but I'm only going to use these chart copies for one season and that will
only be for back up to the Laptop..

The nice thing with this scanner printer system, is I can request the .tif
files from each chart scan, for use with Fugawi or etc.

My point, again, the chart data base is public domain or should be Anyone
should have access to it.. But I suspect that this is a 'sweet heart' deal
to encourage the chart agents to invest in the equipment.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Steve March 7th 04 04:50 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
I'm coping and printing DMA charts at a local print/copy shop on a large
format scanner for $4 a chart. Admittedly, it's in B/W and not waterproof
but I'm only going to use these chart copies for one season and that will
only be for back up to the Laptop..

The nice thing with this scanner printer system, is I can request the .tif
files from each chart scan, for use with Fugawi or etc.

My point, again, the chart data base is public domain or should be Anyone
should have access to it.. But I suspect that this is a 'sweet heart' deal
to encourage the chart agents to invest in the equipment.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Glenn Ashmore March 7th 04 04:57 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
For original quality paper charts I can see $10-12 each because the
dealer still has to amortize a $15K+ printer/computer setup, the high
quality heavy bond and the operator time. The real ripoff is with the
electronic charts. Those guys are just selling us something we have
already paid for.

Steve wrote:

I'm coping and printing DMA charts at a local print/copy shop on a large
format scanner for $4 a chart. Admittedly, it's in B/W and not waterproof
but I'm only going to use these chart copies for one season and that will
only be for back up to the Laptop..

The nice thing with this scanner printer system, is I can request the .tif
files from each chart scan, for use with Fugawi or etc.

My point, again, the chart data base is public domain or should be Anyone
should have access to it.. But I suspect that this is a 'sweet heart' deal
to encourage the chart agents to invest in the equipment.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Glenn Ashmore March 7th 04 04:57 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
For original quality paper charts I can see $10-12 each because the
dealer still has to amortize a $15K+ printer/computer setup, the high
quality heavy bond and the operator time. The real ripoff is with the
electronic charts. Those guys are just selling us something we have
already paid for.

Steve wrote:

I'm coping and printing DMA charts at a local print/copy shop on a large
format scanner for $4 a chart. Admittedly, it's in B/W and not waterproof
but I'm only going to use these chart copies for one season and that will
only be for back up to the Laptop..

The nice thing with this scanner printer system, is I can request the .tif
files from each chart scan, for use with Fugawi or etc.

My point, again, the chart data base is public domain or should be Anyone
should have access to it.. But I suspect that this is a 'sweet heart' deal
to encourage the chart agents to invest in the equipment.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Earnie March 8th 04 05:29 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
this works for just about anything.earnie

http://mapserver.maptech.com/bp/mapserver/index.cfm

"mcorwin" wrote in message
...
Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael






Earnie March 8th 04 05:29 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
this works for just about anything.earnie

http://mapserver.maptech.com/bp/mapserver/index.cfm

"mcorwin" wrote in message
...
Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael






Larry W4CSC March 9th 04 05:27 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Thanks for the pointers!

I did a little hunting around because Fugawi's only runs on NT, 2000
and XP, for some reason yet to be discovered, probably related to
reporting in background. That's usually the reason, now. I found a
program for the rest of us called SeeMyDEnc from www.sevencs.com in
Hamburg, Germany. It hasn't asked for money, yet, but may be
shareware. It runs under Win95, 98, ME, NT, 2000 and Linux, which is
nice. My system is Win98SE, because I don't like copy protected XP
saying NO BOOT if I change hardware. I'm downloading all 196MB of the
chart data, now, so I'll test SeeMyDEnc and see how it works. There
are a couple of other ENC freeware programs I saw in my search, too,
that didn't require networking and sharing to boot.



On 07 Mar 2004 07:36:24 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!





Good news, Larry

NOAA has released electronic charts, free.

Here's the secret handshake:

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/index.htm

These are ENC format charts, and they require a "viewer". A viewer can be
downloaded, free, at www.fugawi.com/viewenc/viewenc.html



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

Larry W4CSC March 9th 04 05:27 AM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Thanks for the pointers!

I did a little hunting around because Fugawi's only runs on NT, 2000
and XP, for some reason yet to be discovered, probably related to
reporting in background. That's usually the reason, now. I found a
program for the rest of us called SeeMyDEnc from www.sevencs.com in
Hamburg, Germany. It hasn't asked for money, yet, but may be
shareware. It runs under Win95, 98, ME, NT, 2000 and Linux, which is
nice. My system is Win98SE, because I don't like copy protected XP
saying NO BOOT if I change hardware. I'm downloading all 196MB of the
chart data, now, so I'll test SeeMyDEnc and see how it works. There
are a couple of other ENC freeware programs I saw in my search, too,
that didn't require networking and sharing to boot.



On 07 Mar 2004 07:36:24 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!





Good news, Larry

NOAA has released electronic charts, free.

Here's the secret handshake:

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/index.htm

These are ENC format charts, and they require a "viewer". A viewer can be
downloaded, free, at www.fugawi.com/viewenc/viewenc.html



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

David Brooks March 9th 04 10:16 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Funny thing is I checked the available charts of the gulf coast of
florida and they are marked up with survey data. viewed on free viewer
but can't find them in my files with Capt'n. Format is only viewable
with programs licensed to view.
Still have to find detailed electronic charts of the gulf coast for
capt'n, as the free charts won't work for me. I refuse to upgrade from
98se to xp just to look at charts. after all I did upgrade windows
3.1 to 98 to have tide charts work.
I still prefer the paper charts in old chartbook form for actual
navigation, I still don't trust pc not crash while underway;)
Dave


David Brooks March 9th 04 10:16 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
Funny thing is I checked the available charts of the gulf coast of
florida and they are marked up with survey data. viewed on free viewer
but can't find them in my files with Capt'n. Format is only viewable
with programs licensed to view.
Still have to find detailed electronic charts of the gulf coast for
capt'n, as the free charts won't work for me. I refuse to upgrade from
98se to xp just to look at charts. after all I did upgrade windows
3.1 to 98 to have tide charts work.
I still prefer the paper charts in old chartbook form for actual
navigation, I still don't trust pc not crash while underway;)
Dave


Mark Borgerson March 16th 04 03:29 PM

Web site with ICW charts to view?
 
In article , says...
Thanks for the pointers!

I did a little hunting around because Fugawi's only runs on NT, 2000
and XP, for some reason yet to be discovered, probably related to
reporting in background. That's usually the reason, now. I found a
program for the rest of us called SeeMyDEnc from
www.sevencs.com in
Hamburg, Germany. It hasn't asked for money, yet, but may be
shareware. It runs under Win95, 98, ME, NT, 2000 and Linux, which is
nice. My system is Win98SE, because I don't like copy protected XP
saying NO BOOT if I change hardware. I'm downloading all 196MB of the
chart data, now, so I'll test SeeMyDEnc and see how it works. There
are a couple of other ENC freeware programs I saw in my search, too,
that didn't require networking and sharing to boot.


I've been looking at ENC charts using Caris Easy ENC 3.0 from
www.caris.com.

BTW, I was a bit leery of the WinXP hardware change issue
when my motherboard failed recently. I put in a new mother
board, processor, and video card and retained the old network
card and hard disk (which I backed up, then reformatted to
the NT file system. WinXP booted and re-installed without
problems. Apparently the hardware examination process gives
a very high weight to the network card.

Mark Borgerson



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