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Capt. JG April 12th 08 03:40 AM

'Captain' (was) Lessons to be learned from the wreck of the 'RED CLOUD'
 
"Molesworth" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:


In the some sixty years that I've been messing around in boats I have
never heard a professional seaman refer to himself as "the good
captain" so I assume that you are some sort of ignoramus that knows
nothing and rates right along side such other sterling examples of
stupidity as the Good Captain Neil and Wilbur (the guy that can't
spell his name correctly) for competency.


I sailed into harbor in W Fla for the night and was addressed as
'Captain' by the dockie. I was single-handing but I still squirm with
embarrassment as I don't consider myself to be experienced enough to
earn that title.

And I don't know when/if I'll be comfortable with it either.

However, someone has to be in charge (me).. Hmm, a quandary!

--
Molesworth



Very accurate assessment of them both. In a couple of VHF communications
with the CG, one time they called me captain, but all the rest called me
skipper. I felt a little odd answering to the former. The LT in charge of
the Mexican Navy used the term capeetan, which I assumed was the same thing.
LOL


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Edgar April 12th 08 10:00 AM

'Captain' (was) Lessons to be learned from the wreck of the 'RED CLOUD'
 

"Molesworth" wrote in message
...
I sailed into harbor in W Fla for the night and was addressed as
'Captain' by the dockie. I was single-handing but I still squirm with
embarrassment as I don't consider myself to be experienced enough to
earn that title.

And I don't know when/if I'll be comfortable with it either.

However, someone has to be in charge (me).. Hmm, a quandary!


No quandary really.
You were undoubtedly the 'Skipper' of your vessel.
The word 'Captain' is greatly misused especially on this ng and you
certainly cannot be a captain if you do not have a crew..



Bloody Horvath April 12th 08 12:26 PM

'Captain' (was) Lessons to be learned from the wreck of the 'RED CLOUD'
 
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:40:41 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:

Very accurate assessment of them both. In a couple of VHF communications
with the CG, one time they called me captain, but all the rest called me
skipper. I felt a little odd answering to the former. The LT in charge of
the Mexican Navy used the term capeetan, which I assumed was the same thing.
LOL



Oooh! wow! They called you, "captain," over the radio. I'm so
unimpressed. They called me, "Captain Horvath," in the army, and many
brave men saluted me. I was a real captain.

I was known throughout the land as, "Captain Horvath, Defender of
Freedom."

And I have the paperwork to prove it.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

[email protected] April 12th 08 01:34 PM

Lessons to be learned from the wreck of the 'RED CLOUD'
 
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
Goodness, and here I thought that all RBC folks were law abiding good
guys. I mention "short lobsters" and it seems like everybody knows
what I'm talking about. Next thing I'm going to mention "jack
lighting" to see if there are any deer hunters in the crowd.


No, absolutely not. Never.
Although I did have a car with one headlight bent upward a little,
years ago... somehow passed the state inspection anyway ;)

DSK


Bruce in Bangkok[_5_] April 12th 08 02:36 PM

'Captain' (was) Lessons to be learned from the wreck of the 'RED CLOUD'
 
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:28:41 -0500, Molesworth
wrote:

In article ,
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:


In the some sixty years that I've been messing around in boats I have
never heard a professional seaman refer to himself as "the good
captain" so I assume that you are some sort of ignoramus that knows
nothing and rates right along side such other sterling examples of
stupidity as the Good Captain Neil and Wilbur (the guy that can't
spell his name correctly) for competency.


I sailed into harbor in W Fla for the night and was addressed as
'Captain' by the dockie. I was single-handing but I still squirm with
embarrassment as I don't consider myself to be experienced enough to
earn that title.

And I don't know when/if I'll be comfortable with it either.

However, someone has to be in charge (me).. Hmm, a quandary!


It is common courtesy to address the master of a vessel as "Captain"
but one does not introduce one's self as Captain unless one is a
serving military officer in which case it is proper to announce one's
rank, primarily so that others know how to address you.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

Bruce in Bangkok[_5_] April 12th 08 02:41 PM

Lessons to be learned from the wreck of the 'RED CLOUD'
 
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:34:03 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
Goodness, and here I thought that all RBC folks were law abiding good
guys. I mention "short lobsters" and it seems like everybody knows
what I'm talking about. Next thing I'm going to mention "jack
lighting" to see if there are any deer hunters in the crowd.


No, absolutely not. Never.
Although I did have a car with one headlight bent upward a little,
years ago... somehow passed the state inspection anyway ;)

DSK

Next you'll be telling me about how the kid taped that stupid 5 cell
flashlight under the barrel on the 30-30 so he could shoot rats after
dark...... Right!


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

[email protected] April 12th 08 02:50 PM

'Captain' (was) Lessons to be learned from the wreck of the 'REDCLOUD'
 
Bloody Horvath wrote:
.... They called me, "Captain Horvath," in the army, and many
brave men saluted me. I was a real captain.


You may have been a real Captain, but still outranked by a Navy
Lieutenant.

If I were to claim a title, I'd be just as happy to be the senior
petty officer on board. That leaves no doubt as to who is really in
charge in any emergency, yet I can still loaf most of the time.

former BT1(SW) Doug King

Molesworth April 12th 08 05:20 PM

'Captain' (was) Lessons to be learned from the wreck of the 'RED CLOUD'
 
In article ,
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:28:41 -0500, Molesworth
wrote:

In article ,
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:


In the some sixty years that I've been messing around in boats I have
never heard a professional seaman refer to himself as "the good
captain" so I assume that you are some sort of ignoramus that knows
nothing and rates right along side such other sterling examples of
stupidity as the Good Captain Neil and Wilbur (the guy that can't
spell his name correctly) for competency.


I sailed into harbor in W Fla for the night and was addressed as
'Captain' by the dockie. I was single-handing but I still squirm with
embarrassment as I don't consider myself to be experienced enough to
earn that title.

And I don't know when/if I'll be comfortable with it either.

However, someone has to be in charge (me).. Hmm, a quandary!


It is common courtesy to address the master of a vessel as "Captain"
but one does not introduce one's self as Captain unless one is a
serving military officer in which case it is proper to announce one's
rank, primarily so that others know how to address you.


But 'Corporal' doesn't have the same ring, now does it?

LOL

However, I can live with 'Skipper'.

--
Molesworth (ex-Corporal, Royal Engineers)

Bloody Horvath April 12th 08 06:03 PM

'Captain' (was) Lessons to be learned from the wreck of the 'RED CLOUD'
 
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:50:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote
this crap:

Bloody Horvath wrote:


.... They called me, "Captain Horvath," in the army, and many
brave men saluted me. I was a real captain.


You may have been a real Captain, but still outranked by a Navy
Lieutenant.



There's different grades of lieutenants in the navy. An army captain
outranks them all.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Capt. JG April 12th 08 06:15 PM

'Captain' (was) Lessons to be learned from the wreck of the 'RED CLOUD'
 
wrote in message
...
Bloody Horvath wrote:
.... They called me, "Captain Horvath," in the army, and many
brave men saluted me. I was a real captain.


You may have been a real Captain, but still outranked by a Navy
Lieutenant.

If I were to claim a title, I'd be just as happy to be the senior
petty officer on board. That leaves no doubt as to who is really in
charge in any emergency, yet I can still loaf most of the time.

former BT1(SW) Doug King



Horvath is a hero... in his own mind. Don't destroy that for him.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com





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