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Don't ask our Coasties to tow you!
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Don't ask our Coasties to tow you!
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... http://www.canadaeast.com/rss/article/253686 Talk about a cluster ****. Cheers Marty Towing at sea is a tricky business even withought the ice. I always wondered about that when I owned a 19' weekender sailboat with a hull speed of about 5 knots. What would happen if a motorboat towed you at double that speed. |
Don't ask our Coasties to tow you!
"Martin Baxter" wrote:
http://www.canadaeast.com/rss/article/253686 Talk about a cluster ****. Sounds pretty bad. I can't believe that the Coasties were pulling a ~40' boat and not keeping a lookout on the tow. Especially if they're towing thru an area of ice floes.... guess an icebreaker doesn't have to worry about hitting ice herself? "Don White" wrote: Towing at sea is a tricky business even withought the ice. I always wondered about that when I owned a 19' weekender sailboat with a hull speed of about 5 knots. What would happen if a motorboat towed you at double that speed. Depends on a lot of things... sea state, how the towline is attached, whether the towed boat can plane at all and if the crew can hold her in an attitude to plane. I've been on 22' (and smaller) sailboats towed at planing speed.... Always in calm weather, it's also true. It's a waste of gas, but it does get you home faster. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Don't ask our Coasties to tow you!
wrote in message ... "Martin Baxter" wrote: http://www.canadaeast.com/rss/article/253686 Talk about a cluster ****. Sounds pretty bad. I can't believe that the Coasties were pulling a ~40' boat and not keeping a lookout on the tow. Especially if they're towing thru an area of ice floes.... guess an icebreaker doesn't have to worry about hitting ice herself? "Don White" wrote: Towing at sea is a tricky business even withought the ice. I always wondered about that when I owned a 19' weekender sailboat with a hull speed of about 5 knots. What would happen if a motorboat towed you at double that speed. Depends on a lot of things... sea state, how the towline is attached, whether the towed boat can plane at all and if the crew can hold her in an attitude to plane. I've been on 22' (and smaller) sailboats towed at planing speed.... Always in calm weather, it's also true. It's a waste of gas, but it does get you home faster. Fresh Breezes- Doug King One of my previous sailboats had a wing keel and got towed by a power boat. With considerable power we eventually got up on plane on the wing keel, just like a hydrofoil. Everyone worked to carefully balance the boat, it was one hell of a ride at 25 knots. Yea, that's the ticket! Glory! Bob Crantz |
Don't ask our Coasties to tow you!
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:57:07 -0700, dougking888 wrote:
Sounds pretty bad. I can't believe that the Coasties were pulling a ~40' boat and not keeping a lookout on the tow. almost impossible to believe given the images I've seen of the sea ice conditions they were transiting, and the fact that the towed ship had no rudder...but a lack of a lookout is what is being alleged...hopefully the truth will out in the investigation...in the meantime 4 souls are lost and 4 sealing families are devastated |
Don't ask our Coasties to tow you!
mister b wrote:
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:57:07 -0700, dougking888 wrote: Sounds pretty bad. I can't believe that the Coasties were pulling a ~40' boat and not keeping a lookout on the tow. almost impossible to believe given the images I've seen of the sea ice conditions they were transiting, and the fact that the towed ship had no rudder...but a lack of a lookout is what is being alleged...hopefully the truth will out in the investigation...in the meantime 4 souls are lost and 4 sealing families are devastated Been listening to the story on CBC radio this morning at work. They were interviewing a Capt. of a trailing boat, he claimed that the Coast Guard were not answering his calls on VHF. He was in visual range and watched as the disaster unfolded, he alleges that he repeatedly hailed the CG to warn them that the tow was going pear shaped but got no answer. It's possible that the cutbacks to the Coast Guard that have been imposed over the last few years have impacted the service so much that the boats are now undermanned and there's just not enough crew to run the ship through ice and maintain lookouts fore and aft? Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ Do your users want the best web-email gateway? Don't let your customers drift off to free webmail services install your own web gateway! -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_webmail.htm ---- |
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Don't ask our Coasties to tow you!
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:19:47 -0400, Martin Baxter
wrote: It's possible that the cutbacks to the Coast Guard that have been imposed over the last few years have impacted the service so much that the boats are now undermanned and there's just not enough crew to run the ship through ice and maintain lookouts fore and aft? It's also possible that there are training and organizational issues. A friend of mine was sailing a 40 footer back from Nova Scotia 10 years ago when he was T-boned in the fog (on the starboard side) by a Canadian Coast Guard boat. His boat was almost totaled. |
Don't ask our Coasties to tow you!
"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:57:07 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I've been on 22' (and smaller) sailboats towed at planing speed.... Always in calm weather, it's also true. It's a waste of gas, but it does get you home faster. Not a problem with nearly all daysailors. I used to tow 16 foot scows regularly. Racers who had the wind die. Scows are somewhat interesting, by the way. The A scows are 38 foot and 1850 lbs. They can do at least 25 under sail. All the scows have twin rudders, pretty rare for monohulls. Casady Usually, before starting to tow a boat a waiver has to be signed and agreed by the captain of the boat being towed. |
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