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Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=wmar
http://www.reuters.com/article/marke...0080326?rpc=44 http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080327/west_...over.html?.v=3 $65.4M loss....burning through cash pretty quick. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=WMAR Poor mutual fund holders losing their asses.... $7.19/share...falling in after hours trading more. Boating is in trouble. Listen to their investor conference call: http://tinyurl.com/3belex |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
You'll probably order direct from China ... that where all this stuff
is made and thats where all our (former) capital has migrated to. Unless you're a shyster, an 'educator' or politician ... you'll have to go 'elsewhere' than the US to make money or buy anything. |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
"Roger Long" wrote in news:47f00650$0$22827
: http://www.hamiltonmarine.com/t1.html Thanks....great catalogue... |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
"Roger Long" wrote in message
... I'll got to Hamilton Marine where I always do. You can too: http://www.hamiltonmarine.com/t1.html Great outfit. Old time Maine service and integrity. -- Roger Long Yup... if don't need it *now*, it's fine! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
"Larry" wrote in message ... http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=wmar http://www.reuters.com/article/marke...0080326?rpc=44 http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080327/west_...over.html?.v=3 $65.4M loss....burning through cash pretty quick. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=WMAR Poor mutual fund holders losing their asses.... $7.19/share...falling in after hours trading more. Boating is in trouble. Listen to their investor conference call: http://tinyurl.com/3belex ============ Larry,, there is a reason that West has a new CEO.. big changes on the way. West has too many stores today, many will be shut. The entire boating business is down except for the rich. In fact, down east the yacht business is booming. For the average boat owner, the cost of owning/operating/and the taxes, etc have ruined it for everyone. Even crazy people who own sailboats have a limit. |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
Thomas, Spring Point Light wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=wmar http://www.reuters.com/article/marke...0080326?rpc=44 http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080327/west_...over.html?.v=3 $65.4M loss....burning through cash pretty quick. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=WMAR Poor mutual fund holders losing their asses.... $7.19/share...falling in after hours trading more. Boating is in trouble. Listen to their investor conference call: http://tinyurl.com/3belex ============ Larry,, there is a reason that West has a new CEO.. big changes on the way. West has too many stores today, many will be shut. The entire boating business is down except for the rich. In fact, down east the yacht business is booming. For the average boat owner, the cost of owning/operating/and the taxes, etc have ruined it for everyone. Even crazy people who own sailboats have a limit. We aren't there yet. But if some aspiring governmebt worker figures out how to tax the wind... -- (remove the X to email) Now just why the HELL do I have to press 1 for English? John Wayne |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
Too much of the US economy is based upon excess consumption and easy credit.
Many people buy things they don't really need or can't afford. Just take a look on the water - big, expensive Bayliners with idiots at the helm. The US economy is now returning to where it should be - houses are becoming more affordable and leisure good are once again becoming a luxury. I most certainly welcome it! Less people on the water, food prices will solve the obesity epidemic and gas prices will solve traffic and pollution problems. Lower tax revenue will shrink the size of government. People will learn to focus more on living rather than spending. |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
"Tony Helton" wrote in message ... Too much of the US economy is based upon excess consumption and easy credit. Many people buy things they don't really need or can't afford. Just take a look on the water - big, expensive Bayliners with idiots at the helm. The US economy is now returning to where it should be - houses are becoming more affordable and leisure good are once again becoming a luxury. I most certainly welcome it! Less people on the water, food prices will solve the obesity epidemic and gas prices will solve traffic and pollution problems. Lower tax revenue will shrink the size of government. People will learn to focus more on living rather than spending. I like the way you think. I wish there were more people like you around because it would be a saner and less disgustingly obese country that wallows in ignorance and hedonism. It says a great deal about this country when you look around and see that so-called 'poor' people are just as obese or even more so than the 'rich' people. And so-called poor people have two color TVs with cable and just about all of them own one or two cars and their houses are air conditioned and they all have hot and cold running water and they own washers and dryers, ovens, dishwashers etc. Our so-called poor live like kings compared to the real poor in many other countries and yet they complain about how bad they have it and they demand govt. handouts and taxpayer financed health care, etc. Sad! These idiots (lending institutions and borrowers) who had no business borrowing well above their ability to pay a loan back and the lending institutions that allowed the unqualified to borrow should all be forced to go bankrupt or close their doors. This would be a lesson to future such insane activities. Act irresponsibly - lose your ass! And that's the way it should be. There is no free ride. As the bikers used to tell the biker babes, "Ass, grass or gas - nobody rides for free!" You've got to let the free-market have its normal cyclical ups and downs. The more govt. tries to interfere with the normal swings the harder the whole thing will finally crash. There needs to be a law passed something along the lines that any luxury item and recreational boats are luxury items have to be paid for with cash. No financing allowed. And a large cash bond of say a million dollars for liability would need to be posted. This would get the ignorant, irresponsible jerks off the water. Wilbur Hubbard |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
"Thomas, Spring Point Light" wrote in
news:9fVHj.10123$oE1.4145@trndny09: West has too many stores today, many will be shut. Charleston has 3, including the old Boat/US store they bought. I suspect it and the N Charleston store to close as the West Ashley store is just across the river from the main marinas. Boaters World is also open here. Not sure what their condition is. You're right about boating for only the rich, now. How can any "vehicle" that has no tires/suspension system/air conditioning of any kind/ and such a rudimentary engine and transmission with so few real systems sell for so much money. They killed themselves with greed. |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
cavelamb himself wrote in news:13v0clammavn1a4
@corp.supernews.com: But if some aspiring governmebt worker figures out how to tax the wind... Gotcha covered in South Carolina. We have "personal property tax" on all boats, even my 9.6' Watertender someone on the dock gave me. The STATE bill for its license numbers just came in the mail, again. Luckily, its engine is under 5hp, putting it under the tax radar here. It's a Yamaha 3. I pay more PP tax on the dingy than I do on my old Mercedes because the dingy is a 2000 model. I've a mind to take THEIR boat down and just park it on the goddamned county's front stoop....I only used it twice this year and it's simply not worth it. My neighbor's kids used it for a kiddie pool more than I used it for a boat! Makes a great kiddie pool....(c; |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Tony Helton" wrote in message ... Too much of the US economy is based upon excess consumption and easy credit. Many people buy things they don't really need or can't afford. Just take a look on the water - big, expensive Bayliners with idiots at the helm. The US economy is now returning to where it should be - houses are becoming more affordable and leisure good are once again becoming a luxury. I most certainly welcome it! Less people on the water, food prices will solve the obesity epidemic and gas prices will solve traffic and pollution problems. Lower tax revenue will shrink the size of government. People will learn to focus more on living rather than spending. I like the way you think. I wish there were more people like you around because it would be a saner and less disgustingly obese country that wallows in ignorance and hedonism. It says a great deal about this country when you look around and see that so-called 'poor' people are just as obese or even more so than the 'rich' people. And so-called poor people have two color TVs with cable and just about all of them own one or two cars and their houses are air conditioned and they all have hot and cold running water and they own washers and dryers, ovens, dishwashers etc. Our so-called poor live like kings compared to the real poor in many other countries and yet they complain about how bad they have it and they demand govt. handouts and taxpayer financed health care, etc. Sad! These idiots (lending institutions and borrowers) who had no business borrowing well above their ability to pay a loan back and the lending institutions that allowed the unqualified to borrow should all be forced to go bankrupt or close their doors. This would be a lesson to future such insane activities. Act irresponsibly - lose your ass! And that's the way it should be. There is no free ride. As the bikers used to tell the biker babes, "Ass, grass or gas - nobody rides for free!" You've got to let the free-market have its normal cyclical ups and downs. The more govt. tries to interfere with the normal swings the harder the whole thing will finally crash. There needs to be a law passed something along the lines that any luxury item and recreational boats are luxury items have to be paid for with cash. No financing allowed. And a large cash bond of say a million dollars for liability would need to be posted. This would get the ignorant, irresponsible jerks off the water. Wilbur Hubbard You, sir, are a learned man! It is only the forces of nature and its natural consequences that prevail. The best mankind can do is delay the inevitable, but only at a much higher cost. It is far simpler and moral to let those who act irresponsibly pay and pay alone for their actions. Their failures will serve as great lessons to those more prudent. The notion that "one is thy brother's keeper" can only lead to mutually assured self destruction. Such a philosophy in the political arena is known as "Liberalism" which is a death sentence upon a civilized and responsible society. Sharing blame, ill fortune and misery are the signs of a civilization in decay. |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
Larry wrote:
You're right about boating for only the rich, now. How can any "vehicle" that has no tires/suspension system/air conditioning of any kind/ and such a rudimentary engine and transmission with so few real systems sell for so much money. They killed themselves with greed. Well, while we're at it, what the money grabbing rapacious marina operators? Why not just give them a printing press and let them print money? Cheers Marty |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
Martin Baxter wrote in :
Larry wrote: You're right about boating for only the rich, now. How can any "vehicle" that has no tires/suspension system/air conditioning of any kind/ and such a rudimentary engine and transmission with so few real systems sell for so much money. They killed themselves with greed. Well, while we're at it, what the money grabbing rapacious marina operators? Why not just give them a printing press and let them print money? Cheers Marty You missed the point. There aren't enough rich customers willing to pay $99 for the cheapassed Chinese 12V fan the company paid $8 for. The average guy passes it by. IF we had priced the little plastic box fan at $48, making only $40/fan, They could have sold lots more at higher profits.....duhh... |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
On Apr 1, 2:44*pm, Larry wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote : Larry wrote: You're right about boating for only the rich, now. *How can any "vehicle" that has no tires/suspension system/air conditioning of any kind/ and such a rudimentary engine and transmission with so few real systems sell for so much money. *They killed themselves with greed. Well, while we're at it, what the money grabbing rapacious marina operators? *Why not just give them a printing press and let them print money? Cheers Marty You missed the point. *There aren't enough rich customers willing to pay $99 for the cheapassed Chinese 12V fan the company paid $8 for. *The average guy passes it by. *IF we had priced the little plastic box fan at $48, making only $40/fan, They could have sold lots more at higher profits.....duhh... like any body or any business, some swear by them, some swear at them. From the complaints I've seen on the "net. there's plenty that have sworn at W. marine. More so than compliments. |
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On Mar 30, 4:29*pm, "Roger Long" wrote:
I'll got to Hamilton Marine where I always do. You can too: http://www.hamiltonmarine.com/t1.html Great outfit. *Old time Maine service and integrity. -- Roger Long I don't need to buy much so I do it locally or ebay |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:05:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: like any body or any business, some swear by them, some swear at them. From the complaints I've seen on the "net. there's plenty that have sworn at W. marine. More so than compliments. It's not like they have a monopoly on marine supplies. If you don't like them, buy somewhere else. I use them when it's convenient and I need something in a hurry. It can be very handy having 3 stores within 5 miles of the house but frankly I don't see how they can afford the luxury. |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
On Apr 1, 7:58*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
" *It can be very handy having 3 stores within 5 miles of the house but frankly I don't see how they can afford the luxury. From the way the financial report shows, Wayne... Evidently they can't. |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
"Larry" wrote in message ... http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=wmar http://www.reuters.com/article/marke...0080326?rpc=44 http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080327/west_...over.html?.v=3 $65.4M loss....burning through cash pretty quick. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=WMAR Poor mutual fund holders losing their asses.... $7.19/share...falling in after hours trading more. Boating is in trouble. Listen to their investor conference call: http://tinyurl.com/3belex == Larry,, West Marine is a victim of the credit crisis [ wait, there is no crisis ,, just lots of people spending money they dont have ]. My last visit to West ... First, the paint department .. where is the paint ,, empty shelves .. Second, the lights department .. where are the lights.. where are the LED's.. Finally, the "other" employee sees me .. "Yo,, how you been" .. "Great, looks a little thin in here". "Well, we are just getting going for spring" "I heard the new CEO is going to kick ass". "Yup,, that is what I'm told, we are going to get back on our feet, and be better than ever". Have not been back but will go .. just to see if anything changed. |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
"Thomas, Spring Point Light" wrote in news:izBIj.6460
$Ps1.4197@trndny08: Have not been back but will go .. just to see if anything changed. Our "other employees" are those wannabee snobs from the docks in any marina. They dress all up like a rich boater, which they're, obviously from having to work at West Marine for a pittance, NOT. I always wear my sloppiest jeans, black pocket T-shirt and dirty old Adidas sneakers so I can follow around the yachtie Sperry Topsiders, those tan "boat shorts" with the funny patch pockets and the designer casual shirts from exotic islands sometimes capped off by the "broker look" wide brim Panama hat. You're truly lucky if you get the time of day, to say nothing of where the toilet parts are for the **** pump...(c; Maybe I have an attitude problem not properly projected when I say, "Have you got this valve for the head?", handing him the old one so he can see what I'm looking for that I took out from under the plunger not 30 minutes a go and it's still "wet"....(c; I don't understand why they handle my Chase Business VISA and West Marine discount card with rubber gloves at all! Don't they have heads on their boats?? Maybe not the kind that will flush....hmmm... Maybe if his boss got out of the way so I could get to the store head and wash MY hands it would make a difference...... They can't jack up the prices much higher because they're aleady charging the MSRP in the catalogs.....especially for **** pump parts where they think they got you by the short hairs.....(c; |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
Larry wrote in
: "Thomas, Spring Point Light" wrote in news:izBIj.6460 $Ps1.4197@trndny08: Have not been back but will go .. just to see if anything changed. Our "other employees" are those wannabee snobs from the docks in any marina. They dress all up like a rich boater, which they're, obviously from having to work at West Marine for a pittance, NOT. I always wear my sloppiest jeans, black pocket T-shirt and dirty old Adidas sneakers so I can follow around the yachtie Sperry Topsiders, those tan "boat shorts" with the funny patch pockets and the designer casual shirts from exotic islands sometimes capped off by the "broker look" wide brim Panama hat. You're truly lucky if you get the time of day, to say nothing of where the toilet parts are for the **** pump...(c; Maybe I have an attitude problem not properly projected when I say, "Have you got this valve for the head?", handing him the old one so he can see what I'm looking for that I took out from under the plunger not 30 minutes a go and it's still "wet"....(c; I don't understand why they handle my Chase Business VISA and West Marine discount card with rubber gloves at all! Don't they have heads on their boats?? Maybe not the kind that will flush....hmmm... Maybe if his boss got out of the way so I could get to the store head and wash MY hands it would make a difference...... They can't jack up the prices much higher because they're aleady charging the MSRP in the catalogs.....especially for **** pump parts where they think they got you by the short hairs.....(c Larry, Perhaps I don't understand something. It appears that you can't stand WM, yet it also appears that you shop there. Why? If you can get much better deals elsewhere, why don't you take your money to those other stores? You'd be much more credible if you put your money where your mouth instead of just shooting your mouth off. -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
"Larry" wrote in message ... "Thomas, Spring Point Light" wrote in news:izBIj.6460 $Ps1.4197@trndny08: Have not been back but will go .. just to see if anything changed. Our "other employees" are those wannabee snobs from the docks in any marina. They dress all up like a rich boater, which they're, obviously from having to work at West Marine for a pittance, NOT. I always wear my sloppiest jeans, black pocket T-shirt and dirty old Adidas sneakers so I can follow around the yachtie Sperry Topsiders, those tan "boat shorts" with the funny patch pockets and the designer casual shirts from exotic islands sometimes capped off by the "broker look" wide brim Panama hat. You're truly lucky if you get the time of day, to say nothing of where the toilet parts are for the **** pump...(c; Maybe I have an attitude problem not properly projected when I say, "Have you got this valve for the head?", handing him the old one so he can see what I'm looking for that I took out from under the plunger not 30 minutes a go and it's still "wet"....(c; I don't understand why they handle my Chase Business VISA and West Marine discount card with rubber gloves at all! Don't they have heads on their boats?? Maybe not the kind that will flush....hmmm... Maybe if his boss got out of the way so I could get to the store head and wash MY hands it would make a difference...... They can't jack up the prices much higher because they're aleady charging the MSRP in the catalogs.....especially for **** pump parts where they think they got you by the short hairs.....(c; You're lucky. If I worked at your store and you came in dripping of **** & crap holding out a part from an overused head...I'd reach for the industrial sized can of Lysol and give you a good sprayin'. ;-) |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
Geoff Schultz wrote in
: just shooting your mouth off. What's YOUR interest in Waste Marine? Investor? Employee? Why the defense? |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
"Don White" wrote in
: You're lucky. If I worked at your store and you came in dripping of **** & crap holding out a part from an overused head...I'd reach for the industrial sized can of Lysol and give you a good sprayin'. ;-) Hmm...."He sprayed it in my eyes, Your Honor."..... |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
Larry wrote in news:Xns9A746CBD49C23noonehomecom@
208.49.80.253: Geoff Schultz wrote in : just shooting your mouth off. What's YOUR interest in Waste Marine? Investor? Employee? Why the defense? I have zip, zero, nada interest in West Marine other than I buy products from them, as well as lots of other vendors. I do my price research and buy from the least expensive vendor. My point is that why do you shop there if you don't like them? If there are other places that offer better deals, support those stores. The reality of the matter is that in many areas there aren't alternatives. Adn when there are, there often isn't a lot of price difference. If this was such a great business to get into, the market would be full of competitors. But as you can see by WMAR's performance, it's a tough market. I think that you should put up, or shut up. Don't go bad mouthing them and then walk in their door. Your comments make you appear as a "Do as I say and not as I do" type of individual. -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org |
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Don White a écrit :
You're lucky. If I worked at your store and you came in dripping of **** & crap holding out a part from an overused head...I'd reach for the industrial sized can of Lysol and give you a good sprayin'. ;-) What else can you expect from Don WHITE ? -- http://francois.lonchamp.free.fr Un doigt de linguistique ... et un soupçon de voile |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
"Don White" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote in message ... "Thomas, Spring Point Light" wrote in news:izBIj.6460 $Ps1.4197@trndny08: Have not been back but will go .. just to see if anything changed. Our "other employees" are those wannabee snobs from the docks in any marina. They dress all up like a rich boater, which they're, obviously from having to work at West Marine for a pittance, NOT. I always wear my sloppiest jeans, black pocket T-shirt and dirty old Adidas sneakers so I can follow around the yachtie Sperry Topsiders, those tan "boat shorts" with the funny patch pockets and the designer casual shirts from exotic islands sometimes capped off by the "broker look" wide brim Panama hat. You're truly lucky if you get the time of day, to say nothing of where the toilet parts are for the **** pump...(c; Maybe I have an attitude problem not properly projected when I say, "Have you got this valve for the head?", handing him the old one so he can see what I'm looking for that I took out from under the plunger not 30 minutes a go and it's still "wet"....(c; I don't understand why they handle my Chase Business VISA and West Marine discount card with rubber gloves at all! Don't they have heads on their boats?? Maybe not the kind that will flush....hmmm... Maybe if his boss got out of the way so I could get to the store head and wash MY hands it would make a difference...... They can't jack up the prices much higher because they're aleady charging the MSRP in the catalogs.....especially for **** pump parts where they think they got you by the short hairs.....(c; You're lucky. If I worked at your store and you came in dripping of **** & crap holding out a part from an overused head...I'd reach for the industrial sized can of Lysol and give you a good sprayin'. ;-) This is the problem... boats are messy. Things on boats that need fixing are messy and smelly. and oily etc. go into a WM and the kids looks like he has never seen a bildge. in my case, i already know what i want,, but try to get it..... very frustrating. when i am driving 1 1/4 hours to go to Hamilton Marine, on Portland .. ya got to know WM is bad. |
Where will we go after West Marine goes under?
Larry wrote:
"Don White" wrote in : You're lucky. If I worked at your store and you came in dripping of **** & crap holding out a part from an overused head...I'd reach for the industrial sized can of Lysol and give you a good sprayin'. ;-) Hmm...."He sprayed it in my eyes, Your Honor."..... He brought that bio-hazard into a public place! Terreristic threats made by trying to pass it around... -- (remove the X to email) Now just why the HELL do I have to press 1 for English? John Wayne |
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"lonchamp" wrote in message ... Don White a écrit : You're lucky. If I worked at your store and you came in dripping of **** & crap holding out a part from an overused head...I'd reach for the industrial sized can of Lysol and give you a good sprayin'. ;-) What else can you expect from Don WHITE ? The truth... and the whole truth....so help me.. |
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