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On Feb 27, 2:51 pm, wrote:
... No, the ratio does not say that "bigger" is more comfortable.


Yes it does.
Look at the math.

Increase displacement, "Comfort Ratio" goes up. Increase LOA but not
LWL, the ratio goes up. The funny thing is that if you take the same
LOA and Disp, and reduce LWL, the ratio goes up. If you keep
everything the same and decrease beam, the ratio goes up. ...


Help me out Doug. The formula is:

C = D/(.65(.7Lwl+.3Loa)*B^1.33

Where C is the "Comfort Ratio", D is displacement, Lwl is the length
on the load waterline, Loa is the overall length and B is the beam.

Now, if you fix the displacement but make the boat bigger in any
dimension the ratio goes down. All of the dimensions are in the
denominator. Thus, it seems to me that making the boat "bigger" makes
it score less well on the CR. I don't follow how you can say that if
you increase the LOA but not LWL the ratio goes up. Are we looking at
the same formula?

-- Tom.
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tsmw wrote:
C = D/(.65(.7Lwl+.3Loa)*B^1.33

Where C is the "Comfort Ratio", D is displacement, Lwl is the length
on the load waterline, Loa is the overall length and B is the beam.

Now, if you fix the displacement but make the boat bigger in any
dimension the ratio goes down. All of the dimensions are in the
denominator. Thus, it seems to me that making the boat "bigger" makes
it score less well on the CR. I don't follow how you can say that if
you increase the LOA but not LWL the ratio goes up. Are we looking at
the same formula?

-- Tom.


Try it in excel. I think the multiplier of less than one has an
effect.
If you keep everything else constant and increase the LOA, the "Motion
Comfort Ratio" goes up slightly.
That's making the boat bigger, nyet?
If you keep everything else constant and decrease the LWL, the "Motion
Comfort Ratio" goes up by a greater amount than above. Ditto for
decrease in Beam. This isn't increasing size, but decreasing LWL while
holding everything else constant is increasing the overhangs, which
does not really improve seakindliness.
The greatest increase in the ratio is of course had by increasing
Displacement, which is again increasing size.
Disp & LOA are the largest factors in a boats size IMHO

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On Feb 28, 4:50 pm, wrote:
Try it in excel. I think the multiplier of less than one has an
effect. ...


I don't do excel but since I have it I put in: =D2/
(0.65*((0.7*B2)+(0.3*A2))*(C2^1.33)) and if you increase any dimension
the CR goes down. Remember the mathematical operators have an order
of precedence that not all programming languages enforce so you might
need the extra parans to get the formula to work as Brewer intended.

-- Tom.
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