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Castro has resigned,,, ok,, how will this effect us.. the sailboat crowd ??
It is obvious that change is coming to Cuba. The old Communists are
retiring. Soon,, who knows. I've flown over Cuba a couple of times. It is a very beautiful island. And all that warm, blue sea. And those harbors! With no marina's! I would love to sail to Havana. And I'm sure I'm not alone. From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years, although it is illegal. Soon it will be legal! Viva la Cuba .. !!! What a trip... down the coast, stop at some keys,, a little Key West and then Set the sails... we are heading to Havana! |
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"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote in message news:SsAuj.9482$wG2.1709@trndny09... It is obvious that change is coming to Cuba. The old Communists are retiring. Soon,, who knows. I've flown over Cuba a couple of times. It is a very beautiful island. And all that warm, blue sea. And those harbors! With no marina's! I would love to sail to Havana. And I'm sure I'm not alone. From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years, although it is illegal. It might well be illegal for those in "the land of the free" but not for the rest of us and it's well worth the trip. -- Chris Ignoti nulla cupido |
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On Feb 19, 8:36 am, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:03:46 GMT, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote: It is obvious that change is coming to Cuba. The old Communists are retiring. Soon,, who knows. I've flown over Cuba a couple of times. It is a very beautiful island. And all that warm, blue sea. And those harbors! With no marina's! I would love to sail to Havana. And I'm sure I'm not alone. From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years, although it is illegal. Soon it will be legal! Viva la Cuba .. !!! What a trip... down the coast, stop at some keys,, a little Key West and then Set the sails... we are heading to Havana! They have Marinas. It is only illegal for US citizens to go there. I had the opportunity to sail there last year for a scientific conference but after I talked to someone who had, I realized that almost all the money I spent would go into Castros pocket and be used to further oppress his people. If your conscience allows you to support a police state with your money,ok, but mine wont allow it. |
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On Feb 19, 8:36 am, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:03:46 GMT, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote: It is obvious that change is coming to Cuba. The old Communists are retiring. Soon,, who knows. I've flown over Cuba a couple of times. It is a very beautiful island. And all that warm, blue sea. And those harbors! With no marina's! I would love to sail to Havana. And I'm sure I'm not alone. From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years, although it is illegal. Soon it will be legal! Viva la Cuba .. !!! What a trip... down the coast, stop at some keys,, a little Key West and then Set the sails... we are heading to Havana! They have Marinas. It is only illegal for US citizens to go there. I had the opportunity to sail there last year for a scientific conference but after I talked to someone who had, I realized that almost all the money I spent would go into Castros pocket and be used to further oppress his people. If your conscience allows you to support a police state with your money,ok, but mine wont allow it. |
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wrote in message ... I had the opportunity to sail there last year for a scientific conference but after I talked to someone who had, I realized that almost all the money I spent would go into Castros pocket and be used to further oppress his people. If your conscience allows you to support a police state with your money,ok, but mine wont allow it. The only problem is... every time you shop at Wally-Mart and buy Chinese made goods you're doing exactly the same thing. I'm thinking people should rush down there for a holiday before the place gets overrun and ruined by hordes of Americans. |
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wrote in message ... On Feb 19, 8:36 am, wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:03:46 GMT, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote: It is obvious that change is coming to Cuba. The old Communists are retiring. Soon,, who knows. I've flown over Cuba a couple of times. It is a very beautiful island. And all that warm, blue sea. And those harbors! With no marina's! I would love to sail to Havana. And I'm sure I'm not alone. From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years, although it is illegal. Soon it will be legal! Viva la Cuba .. !!! What a trip... down the coast, stop at some keys,, a little Key West and then Set the sails... we are heading to Havana! They have Marinas. It is only illegal for US citizens to go there. I had the opportunity to sail there last year for a scientific conference but after I talked to someone who had, I realized that almost all the money I spent would go into Castros pocket and be used to further oppress his people. If your conscience allows you to support a police state with your money,ok, but mine wont allow it. Hello????? What do you think all that money that Walmart spends for all the junk it sells that is MADE IN CHINA goes toward .... You've got to be kidding? China? Hello .... ????????? Communist China???????????? This is total bull****,, cat****,,, rat****.... Open your closet .. what is handing on the racks ... MADE IN CHINA, MADE IN VIETNAM .. YA GOT ANY CLOTHES MADE IN CUBA ????? Wake up! |
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Sir Thomas of Cannondale wrote:
From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years, although it is illegal. No, it is not. It is however illegal to spend dollars in Cuba under regulations of the Office of Foreign Assets Control of the US Treasury. Individuals have been dancing around these regulations in many ways for many years. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare |
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wrote in message ... On 19 Feb 2008 13:26:02 -0600, Dave wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:00:05 -0500, said: Let us know all about your trips to Cuba and how you managed to eat, find lodging, and get around without spending any money, Dave. Meanwhile, the US government has declared that they can seize your boat in US waters if they even suspect you might be considering Cuba as your destination. There is no due process involved. If your boat seems like it is equipped to make it to Cuba, that's all they need. You do not get your boat or other property back, either. Ah, poor Charlie, victim of a repressive regime. Ever considered emigrating from CT to CA? Oh, wait a minute. What about Cuba as your permanent home? That would solve the problem. I look forward to sailing to Cuba. It's at the top of my list of places I'd like to visit. The day may not be that far off when it becomes possible. Fidel's brother is pretty old, and the Bush administration is greased and ready to slide out of Washington. You would realize that there was change in the air if your stinky smoking habit didn't obscure it. :') Count me in as a Cuba bound sailor... I cant' wait. Beautiful beaches, the music, the food... The Cuba issue is just one more reason our country SUCKS. We spend Billions in China, but if you live in Miami you can't visit Cuba? Dah? Couple of days ago, our stupid president,,, the dumbest moron who has ever held the highest office in the US ... recogized Kosovo as a country! Kosovo? An independent country? The village idiot tells Kosovo it is now an independent country, no problem. But 90 miles from Key West there is an island, big one,, Cuba .. and we Americans can't visit? Why? Tell me one reason it is ok to go spend money in communist Vietnam, a country we actually fought a war in,, and left with out asses kicked .. yet I can't take my F'n sailboat to Cuba. How about telling the village idiot that it isn't 1960. Yo,, George .. get the F.. out! Go back to Texas and get drunk. Take you little drunken daughters with you! And the drunken dog. When kids one hundred years from now study history, they will turn to the chapter .. "The end of the United States" The first sentence will start "Led by a corrupt, stupid, drunken, moron, ...... " |
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Sir Thomas of Cannondale wrote:
wrote in message ... On 19 Feb 2008 13:26:02 -0600, Dave wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:00:05 -0500, said: Let us know all about your trips to Cuba and how you managed to eat, find lodging, and get around without spending any money, Dave. Meanwhile, the US government has declared that they can seize your boat in US waters if they even suspect you might be considering Cuba as your destination. There is no due process involved. If your boat seems like it is equipped to make it to Cuba, that's all they need. You do not get your boat or other property back, either. Ah, poor Charlie, victim of a repressive regime. Ever considered emigrating from CT to CA? Oh, wait a minute. What about Cuba as your permanent home? That would solve the problem. I look forward to sailing to Cuba. It's at the top of my list of places I'd like to visit. The day may not be that far off when it becomes possible. Fidel's brother is pretty old, and the Bush administration is greased and ready to slide out of Washington. You would realize that there was change in the air if your stinky smoking habit didn't obscure it. :') Count me in as a Cuba bound sailor... I cant' wait. Beautiful beaches, the music, the food... The Cuba issue is just one more reason our country SUCKS. We spend Billions in China, but if you live in Miami you can't visit Cuba? Dah? Couple of days ago, our stupid president,,, the dumbest moron who has ever held the highest office in the US ... recogized Kosovo as a country! Kosovo? An independent country? The village idiot tells Kosovo it is now an independent country, no problem. But 90 miles from Key West there is an island, big one,, Cuba .. and we Americans can't visit? Why? Tell me one reason it is ok to go spend money in communist Vietnam, a country we actually fought a war in,, and left with out asses kicked .. yet I can't take my F'n sailboat to Cuba. How about telling the village idiot that it isn't 1960. Yo,, George .. get the F.. out! Go back to Texas and get drunk. Take you little drunken daughters with you! And the drunken dog. When kids one hundred years from now study history, they will turn to the chapter .. "The end of the United States" The first sentence will start "Led by a corrupt, stupid, drunken, moron, ..... " That you Wilbur? |
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wrote in message
... On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:03:46 GMT, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote: It is obvious that change is coming to Cuba. The old Communists are retiring. Soon,, who knows. I've flown over Cuba a couple of times. It is a very beautiful island. And all that warm, blue sea. And those harbors! With no marina's! I would love to sail to Havana. And I'm sure I'm not alone. From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years, although it is illegal. Soon it will be legal! Viva la Cuba .. !!! What a trip... down the coast, stop at some keys,, a little Key West and then Set the sails... we are heading to Havana! They have Marinas. It is only illegal for US citizens to go there. Actually, I think it's only illegal to spend money there, assuming you can get a permit to go there of course. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:00:05 -0500, said: Let us know all about your trips to Cuba and how you managed to eat, find lodging, and get around without spending any money, Dave. Meanwhile, the US government has declared that they can seize your boat in US waters if they even suspect you might be considering Cuba as your destination. There is no due process involved. If your boat seems like it is equipped to make it to Cuba, that's all they need. You do not get your boat or other property back, either. Ah, poor Charlie, victim of a repressive regime. Ever considered emigrating from CT to CA? Oh, wait a minute. What about Cuba as your permanent home? That would solve the problem. Do you think Canada would have him? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:53:42 -0800, Lloyd Bonafide wrote:
Count me out buddy. Cuba has had nuclear missiles aimed at the US for 45 years. The place would have to be carpet bombed by SAC before I would even consider setting foot there. I know, you were just a simple caveman who fell into a crevasse in a glacier and froze solid...oh about the 1st of October 1963...until our scientists found you and thawed you out last week...our modern ways must frighten and confuse you... |
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On Feb 19, 7:22 pm, "mr.b" wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:53:42 -0800, Lloyd Bonafide wrote: Count me out buddy. Cuba has had nuclear missiles aimed at the US for 45 years. The place would have to be carpet bombed by SAC before I would even consider setting foot there. I know, you were just a simple caveman who fell into a crevasse in a glacier and froze solid...oh about the 1st of October 1963...until our scientists found you and thawed you out last week...our modern ways must frighten and confuse you... For those of us who do not want to benefit the Cuban dictatorship by sailing there, in order to be consistent we also have to be willing to boycott Chinese products and Vietnamese. No problemo, I stopped buying anything from Wal Mart when they went all Chinese all the time. Chinese goods are so poorly made that even with the low prices they actually cost you more because you have to replace them when they break. Thus we have a double reason not to buy Chinese. I also advocate that we all boycott the olympics this year. I strongly advocate self determination for Taiwan. If you are in the market for a computer, remember Lenovo is Chinese made. |
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On 2008-02-19 08:03:46 -0500, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
said: It is obvious that change is coming to Cuba. The old Communists are retiring. Soon,, who knows. Don't count on it. There are younger "communists" willing to do what it takes to continue things as they are. Personally, the idea of US Presidents and legislatures doing the same thing for 40 years and expecting a different outcome.... well, that's one definition for insanity. The Communist regime would have dissolved in short order without the embargo holding it up. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:29:34 -0800, ohara5.0 wrote:
On Feb 19, 7:22 pm, "mr.b" wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:53:42 -0800, Lloyd Bonafide wrote: Count me out buddy. Cuba has had nuclear missiles aimed at the US for 45 years. The place would have to be carpet bombed by SAC before I would even consider setting foot there. I know, you were just a simple caveman who fell into a crevasse in a glacier and froze solid...oh about the 1st of October 1963...until our scientists found you and thawed you out last week...our modern ways must frighten and confuse you... For those of us who do not want to benefit the Cuban dictatorship by sailing there, in order to be consistent we also have to be willing to boycott Chinese products and Vietnamese. No problemo, I stopped buying anything from Wal Mart when they went all Chinese all the time. Chinese goods are so poorly made that even with the low prices they actually cost you more because you have to replace them when they break. Thus we have a double reason not to buy Chinese. I also advocate that we all boycott the olympics this year. I strongly advocate self determination for Taiwan. If you are in the market for a computer, remember Lenovo is Chinese made. fair enough, but don't blame the Chinese...after all, they're playing by rules many in your country like...i.e., no unions, low wages, no benefits, no health care, as few holidays as possible, no pensions etc... BTW I feel you about MallWart, but how do you feel about the big 3? Still buying "domestic"? I was being harassed on the highway the other day by some jackass in a big Dodge pickup who had one of those moronic bumper stickers that said "Out of a job yet? Keep buying foreign" Apparently he had a pickle up his ass about my 18 year old Honda Accord...that was built in Tennessee...by Americans... but to the point, some of you Americans are in the most desperate need for travel...I mean how long can anyone stare at their belly button and still be AAMAAAZZEDDD at its grandeur!!!! |
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Capt. JG wrote:
Do you think Canada would have him? No fricken way! Remember, we're more pinko than Cuba! We've been enjoying vacationing in Cuba for many years. More than 40 of them without running into "The Ugly American"! ;-) Cheers Marty |
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Jere Lull wrote:
Personally, the idea of US Presidents and legislatures doing the same thing for 40 years and expecting a different outcome.... well, that's one definition for insanity. The Communist regime would have dissolved in short order without the embargo holding it up. Exactly Jere, free trade would bring prosperity, prosperity brings education, education brings democracy. Embargo's bring oppression and totalitarianism. Cheers Marty |
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On 2008-02-19 22:34:12 -0500, WaIIy said:
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:02:11 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: Personally, the idea of US Presidents and legislatures doing the same thing for 40 years and expecting a different outcome.... well, that's one definition for insanity. The Communist regime would have dissolved in short order without the embargo holding it up. Too bad you aren't in charge, everything would be fine with Cuba. No way I'd take the job. Politicians don't even have the ethics of lawyers. I have *some* integrity. ;-) -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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wrote in message ... Then why can the DHS legally seize your boat in waters off of Long Island if they simply claim you intended to sail to Cuba? That's been going on for over 200 years. It's called civil forfieture were the contraband is charged with the crime and seized. They'll take your boat but you will never be charged. It all comes under Admiralty Law, and evil institution used on land. Ever wonder why the gold fringe is around the American flag in the courtroom? You are under admiralty law jurisdiction. We need the fully informed jury amendment and juries must use their powers of Jury Nullification to overcome oppressive government. Patriots unite! |
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wrote in message
... On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:15:23 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:03:46 GMT, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote: It is obvious that change is coming to Cuba. The old Communists are retiring. Soon,, who knows. I've flown over Cuba a couple of times. It is a very beautiful island. And all that warm, blue sea. And those harbors! With no marina's! I would love to sail to Havana. And I'm sure I'm not alone. From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years, although it is illegal. Soon it will be legal! Viva la Cuba .. !!! What a trip... down the coast, stop at some keys,, a little Key West and then Set the sails... we are heading to Havana! They have Marinas. It is only illegal for US citizens to go there. Actually, I think it's only illegal to spend money there, assuming you can get a permit to go there of course. Then why can the DHS legally seize your boat in waters off of Long Island if they simply claim you intended to sail to Cuba? I think they can legally seize your boat anywhere.. but I believe it is now illegal for citizens to travel to Cuba. Thanks a lot Bush! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
Do you think Canada would have him? Only if he brings his own snow shovel. Marty wrote: No fricken way! Remember, we're more pinko than Cuba! We've been enjoying vacationing in Cuba for many years. More than 40 of them without running into "The Ugly American"! ;-) You didn't go to the right place. Back in the 1980s, I spent a few summers in a lovely resort at the western end of Cuba. Marvelous sailing there! The social schedule was a bit hectic though. I hear that the new management has changed everything and gotten an entirely different clientele ;) Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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fair enough, but don't blame the Chinese...after all, they're playing by rules many in your country like...i.e., no unions, low wages, no benefits, no health care, as few holidays as possible, no pensions etc... BTW I feel you about MallWart, but how do you feel about the big 3? Still buying "domestic"? I was being harassed on the highway the other day by some jackass in a big Dodge pickup who had one of those moronic bumper stickers that said "Out of a job yet? Keep buying foreign" Apparently he had a pickle up his ass about my 18 year old Honda Accord...that was built in Tennessee...by Americans... It was assembled in Tennessee, not built. The parts came from Japan and the profits went back to Japan! Gordon |
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wrote in message ... Clearly a new chapter in American history began in the year 2000. Nope, way before that: http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/enfor...rfeiture.shtml Bush did not make any new laws, he only changed policy. |
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wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:51:53 -1000, "Anonymous" wrote: wrote in message . .. Clearly a new chapter in American history began in the year 2000. Nope, way before that: http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/enfor...rfeiture.shtml That merely explains the concept of foreiture, and has links to a few examples where it is used.. Bush did not make any new laws, he only changed policy. Bzzzt. Wrong. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040226-11.html I stand corrected. Thanks for the link. Bush has got to be one of the worst presidents ever. Along with destroying the republican party he has taken america along with it. The repurcussions of his presidency will go on for a decade or more. The next president will inherit a total mess. Thanks for pointing out the loss of our freedoms, hopefully we can elect those whose primary goal is to restore them. |
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"Anonymous" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:51:53 -1000, "Anonymous" wrote: wrote in message ... Clearly a new chapter in American history began in the year 2000. Nope, way before that: http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/enfor...rfeiture.shtml That merely explains the concept of foreiture, and has links to a few examples where it is used.. Bush did not make any new laws, he only changed policy. Bzzzt. Wrong. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040226-11.html I stand corrected. Thanks for the link. Bush has got to be one of the worst presidents ever. Along with destroying the republican party he has taken america along with it. The repurcussions of his presidency will go on for a decade or more. The next president will inherit a total mess. Thanks for pointing out the loss of our freedoms, hopefully we can elect those whose primary goal is to restore them. Bush is in a place by himself. Not even Franklin Pierce was as bad as the present moron in chief. He has ruined the economy, taken away our freedom, given out all the federal money to homeland security which then gives it out to every yawhoo police department in the US which then goes out and buys military outfits and gun and then goes out and has its way with our freedom .. etc. Take a look at small town America. Take a look at the folks working for small town America Take a look at who is earning the highest salary .. COPS. Nothing against cops but they should not be earning more than the average guy on the street. When cops start becoming the highest paid employees in the US we are in big trouble. |
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:40:27 -0500, salty wrote:
On 20 Feb 2008 12:21:01 -0600, Dave wrote: On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:47:46 +0000, Gordon said: It was assembled in Tennessee, not built. The parts came from Japan and the profits went back to Japan! LOL. And they built the factories with concrete and bricks imported from Japan, imported genuine Japanese managers, assembly line workers and maintenance people, fed them all with nothing but imported Japanese sushi and rice flown in on Japanese Airlines, and paid them in yen deposited only in Japanese banks, right? Check the parts content of a Chevy, Ford or Chrysler. Thanks for quoting "Dave" gentlemen...reminds me again why he's in my idiot bin. Funny how in little minds like his, it's okay for GM, Ford and Daimler-Chrysler to trample each other in their haste to employ Mexicans, while shipping the profits back to the US or Germany, but the Japanese don't get to play the same capitalist game. Dimwit. But as to Cuba, yes Fidel has had his time. The majority of the Cuban people revere him and who's to argue with the will of the people and what his revolution has done for the quality of their lives? And who will not be aware of the pain and suffering caused by the inhuman enmbargo imposed by a succession of hide-bound ideologues in White House. America's shameful behaviour in this regard may see American business excluded from Cuba's next economic revolution. In 2008, with the economic power of Europe, the MidEast and China, who needs $US$ any longer? Cuba will evolve it's institutions in time to look like the social democracies that populate the UN's list of top countries in which to live. |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:22:24 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: I think they can legally seize your boat anywhere.. but I believe it is now illegal for citizens to travel to Cuba. Thanks a lot Bush! 1. Wrong. 2. Wrong President too. Despite what you Bush-haters may believe, U.S. history did not begin in the year 2000. Never heard of enemy combatant have you Dave... Let's hope US history doesn't end in 2008. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:03:56 -0500, said: Yes. The beginning of a solid 8 years of "the sky is falling." Who thinks we are better off now than we were 8 years ago? There comes another piece of sky. I'm certainly better off now than I was 8 years ago. And indeed by objective measurements most people probably also are. But of course you didn't ask whether people are better off. You asked whether they think they're better off. Oh, damn. There comes another piece of sky! Now that's funny! Most people.... what a riot! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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wrote in message
... On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:22:24 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:15:23 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message m... On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:03:46 GMT, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote: It is obvious that change is coming to Cuba. The old Communists are retiring. Soon,, who knows. I've flown over Cuba a couple of times. It is a very beautiful island. And all that warm, blue sea. And those harbors! With no marina's! I would love to sail to Havana. And I'm sure I'm not alone. From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years, although it is illegal. Soon it will be legal! Viva la Cuba .. !!! What a trip... down the coast, stop at some keys,, a little Key West and then Set the sails... we are heading to Havana! They have Marinas. It is only illegal for US citizens to go there. Actually, I think it's only illegal to spend money there, assuming you can get a permit to go there of course. Then why can the DHS legally seize your boat in waters off of Long Island if they simply claim you intended to sail to Cuba? I think they can legally seize your boat anywhere.. but I believe it is now illegal for citizens to travel to Cuba. Thanks a lot Bush! Can you restate this. It makes no sense as a reply to what I wrote. Yes. I agree with you. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:15:22 -0500, said: This proclamation from George Bush, Hey Charlie, I'm older than you. You shouldn't be the one forgetting what he just said a minute ago. What did I say? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:47:46 +0000, Gordon said: It was assembled in Tennessee, not built. The parts came from Japan and the profits went back to Japan! LOL. And they built the factories with concrete and bricks imported from Japan, imported genuine Japanese managers, assembly line workers and maintenance people, fed them all with nothing but imported Japanese sushi and rice flown in on Japanese Airlines, and paid them in yen deposited only in Japanese banks, right? Same with Mexicans... they don't get paid in US currency in the US. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:13rp31qeu59ts08
@corp.supernews.com: Same with Mexicans... they don't get paid in US currency in the US. Huh? I pay my Mexicans in Yankee Federal Reserve banknotes. There is no US Currency since 1913. |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
: Oh, damn. There comes another piece of sky! Now that's funny! Most people.... what a riot! That's not really funny. My neighbor's car was nearly demolished by an airplane part that fell out of the sky on it, while parked in his yard! He was very fortunate it wasn't 30' west on impact into his kids' bedroom as they were there when it happened. |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in : Oh, damn. There comes another piece of sky! Now that's funny! Most people.... what a riot! That's not really funny. My neighbor's car was nearly demolished by an airplane part that fell out of the sky on it, while parked in his yard! He was very fortunate it wasn't 30' west on impact into his kids' bedroom as they were there when it happened. ?? Selective snipping I see. Does this mean it's a conspiracy? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Castro has resigned,,, ok,, how will this effect us.. the sailboat crowd ??
"Larry" wrote in message
... wrote in : What a trip... down the coast, stop at some keys,, a little Key West WOW! Look at the LAYERS () of quoted replies! That's gotta be a new rec.boats RECORD! On most clients, if you just highlight ONLY the part, as I've done here tongue-in-cheek, before you hit the reply button, the client will only put the statements you need, not the whole thread, into your reply.....making it MUCH easier reading! Really? Wow... thanks for the new info! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Castro has resigned,,, ok,, how will this effect us.. the sailboat crowd ??
"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:34:31 +0000, Larry said: There is no US Currency since 1913. All the fault of them there Masons, eh Larry? Gonna tell us about the eye on the back too? Don't do it Larry. It's a secret society... http://www.freemasonry.org/ -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Castro has resigned,,, ok,, how will this effect us.. the sailboat crowd ??
"Larry" wrote in message ... Huh? I pay my Mexicans in Yankee Federal Reserve banknotes. There is no US Currency since 1913. Even worse: US Constitution: Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility. It is illegal for states to be paid in US currency. It's illegal for them to pay you in US currency. "make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts" States also cannot seize property for payment of debt. |
Castro has resigned,,, ok,, how will this effect us.. the sailboat crowd ??
"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:15:43 -1000, "Anonymous" said: US Constitution: Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States Now you've really done it, Jon. The cuckoos are all in flight. Heh... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Castro has resigned,,, ok,, how will this effect us.. the sailboatcrowd ??
Some idiot wrote:
Take a look at who is earning the highest salary .. COPS. Nothing against cops but they should not be earning more than the average guy on the street. When cops start becoming the highest paid employees in the US we are in big trouble. So what you're saying is that police should be paid way less to get shot at and protect you? You want that job to go to the lowest bidder? You think cops will be *more* professional by being paid less? And you think *that* is going to protect your freedoms better? Anyone want to guess how well cities will keep recuiting up when they offer less pay or benefits than the sanitation worker gets? So lets see... you want a guy to sign up to a job he may get killed in... you want him to be stupid enough to do it for little pay or benefits... and you think he's going to be smart enough to protect you or your rights. Is that correct? Don't know what cops are paid in the big city, but in municipalities around here they are paid commensurate with other municipal employees. |
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