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Here's the website with the FAQs that state the TWIC is mandated for
all credentialed mariners who use their USCG licenses. http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/layers...s.shtm#general I wrote a letter to my Senators and congresswoman complaining about how ridiculous it is for us to be required to pay either $102.25 or $132.50 to haul folks around for hire on our own boats. And this has something to do with homeland security or is it just to line the pockets of some contractor? It states that the USCG and TSA may get together on this to prevent needless duplication of the merchant mariner documentation and the TWIC, but in the meantime we have to go through both processes if your license happens to expire this year. |
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On Feb 16, 9:25*pm, Messing In Boats wrote:
I wrote a letter to my Senators and congresswoman complaining about how ridiculous it is for us to be required to pay either $102.25 or $132.50 to haul folks around for hire on our own boats. Wel, what did the Repubilcans say? Oh, yes....... KEEP BIG GOVERNTMENT OFF OUR BACK AND OUT OF OUR POCKET... I guess the Republicans sorta for got about that along with defict spending. Bob |
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On Feb 16, 11:32*pm, WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:32:33 -0800 (PST), Bob wrote: On Feb 16, 9:25*pm, Messing In Boats wrote: I wrote a letter to my Senators and congresswoman complaining about how ridiculous it is for us to be required to pay either $102.25 or $132.50 to haul folks around for hire on our own boats. Wel, what did the Repubilcans say? Oh, yes....... KEEP BIG GOVERNTMENT OFF OUR BACK AND OUT OF OUR POCKET... I guess the Republicans sorta for got about that along with defict spending. Bob Oh boy, that damned republican congress. Oh wait...... Oh, yea how loong has that TWIC been in the pipe??? 2001 and DHS pushed by the president's appointees. and why has the USCG all but abandon life boat build infavor for 600' cutters and riggid inflatables??? I guess we need to gaurd the Iraq coast with 4400-600' cutters and keep all thoese ALREADY liscensed mariners and card carying harbor workers identified as wel. In all seriousness, resaearch the USCG vessel build program and how the money is alocated by vessel type. the commercial finsermen and offshore recreational boater are not going to rely on our loved coasties there to do their resuce mission. For example............... Newprot, OR USCG Yaqyina bay Station. There are the following boats: 2) 47' life boats able to operate in 20-25' seas. 1) maybe 2) 20 foot somthing foot zip around ridigid inflatables for running around the bay and out to the bar (jety entrance). 1) 52' beautiful life boat. Biuilt about 1950. She is a displacment hull able ot conduct resuce mission in 25-30' seas. Moral of story: when its too bad to send a helo, and too bad for the planning hull fast 47 footer to go out........... you sorry ass is floating around in 30' seas hopping your immersion suit will last longe enough in 50 F water for a 58 year old boat to sholder its way to you. The last line of hervy weather rescure is dependant on a FIFTY EIGHT YEAR OLD boat. I under stand there are onl three left in service.......... such a sham. And so beautiful. Queen of the Fleet truely . Yes slower but able to get the job done when a life depends on it. But in all the wisdom of buget allocation our coast guard is getting turned into a stepchild of the USN to fight a war. thank your Republicans for that! Bob bob |
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A defense contractor went and made several cutters under refit totally
unseaworthy so they were scrapped. Now guess who is getting the contract for the new cutters? It's a friggin circus and waste of your money. http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/20...cancelled.html But if you are against the additional fees and paperwork you must be on the side of the terrorists. We're at war, you know. Do not question authority! "Either you are with us or for the terrorists." Ron |
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The US, the one I was born in, raised in, boat in, is gone/over/.. done.
After 9/11, the madness of the terrorists was replaced by the madness of a government gone crazy. Look at the spending. Look at Home Land Security. What nonsense. They take an unemployed bum, give him/her a uniform and some power and stick him/her at the airport. Yet every time a test is done to check the security of bags etc, the bad **** gets through. They have tuned the USCG into a military organization. They have given money to every state, municipality, to hire stupid people and call them marine patrol. These formerly McDonald's employees are now out in fancy boats bothering people. They get paid more money than who knows, to do nothing. All this money. Billions. And now the whole F'n government is going down the ****ter. The American dollar is worth toilet paper. And all the while, the border isn't controled. Is this nuts or what! Some fat, connected, moron is riding around in a brand new patrol boat, with his brand new uniform on, doing nothing ... and the border between Mexico and the USA is wide open. The sadest part? Take a look at the presidential candidates. This country is over. Done... and I don't care. Good I say. == "Bob" wrote in message ... On Feb 16, 11:32 pm, WaIIy wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:32:33 -0800 (PST), Bob wrote: On Feb 16, 9:25 pm, Messing In Boats wrote: I wrote a letter to my Senators and congresswoman complaining about how ridiculous it is for us to be required to pay either $102.25 or $132.50 to haul folks around for hire on our own boats. Wel, what did the Repubilcans say? Oh, yes....... KEEP BIG GOVERNTMENT OFF OUR BACK AND OUT OF OUR POCKET... I guess the Republicans sorta for got about that along with defict spending. Bob Oh boy, that damned republican congress. Oh wait...... Oh, yea how loong has that TWIC been in the pipe??? 2001 and DHS pushed by the president's appointees. and why has the USCG all but abandon life boat build infavor for 600' cutters and riggid inflatables??? I guess we need to gaurd the Iraq coast with 4400-600' cutters and keep all thoese ALREADY liscensed mariners and card carying harbor workers identified as wel. In all seriousness, resaearch the USCG vessel build program and how the money is alocated by vessel type. the commercial finsermen and offshore recreational boater are not going to rely on our loved coasties there to do their resuce mission. For example............... Newprot, OR USCG Yaqyina bay Station. There are the following boats: 2) 47' life boats able to operate in 20-25' seas. 1) maybe 2) 20 foot somthing foot zip around ridigid inflatables for running around the bay and out to the bar (jety entrance). 1) 52' beautiful life boat. Biuilt about 1950. She is a displacment hull able ot conduct resuce mission in 25-30' seas. Moral of story: when its too bad to send a helo, and too bad for the planning hull fast 47 footer to go out........... you sorry ass is floating around in 30' seas hopping your immersion suit will last longe enough in 50 F water for a 58 year old boat to sholder its way to you. The last line of hervy weather rescure is dependant on a FIFTY EIGHT YEAR OLD boat. I under stand there are onl three left in service.......... such a sham. And so beautiful. Queen of the Fleet truely . Yes slower but able to get the job done when a life depends on it. But in all the wisdom of buget allocation our coast guard is getting turned into a stepchild of the USN to fight a war. thank your Republicans for that! Bob bob |
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WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:32:33 -0800 (PST), Bob wrote: On Feb 16, 9:25 pm, Messing In Boats wrote: I wrote a letter to my Senators and congresswoman complaining about how ridiculous it is for us to be required to pay either $102.25 or $132.50 to haul folks around for hire on our own boats. Wel, what did the Repubilcans say? Oh, yes....... KEEP BIG GOVERNTMENT OFF OUR BACK AND OUT OF OUR POCKET... I guess the Republicans sorta for got about that along with defict spending. Bob Oh boy, that damned republican congress. Oh wait...... The two parties love people who claim allegiance to right or left and can't see the rest of the world. Maybe if the sheeple would wake up, they would realize that most pols are the same under their disguises. Gordon |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:15:26 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote: 600' cutters Six hundred foot? Casady |
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:15:26 -0800 (PST), Bob wrote: 600' cutters Six hundred foot? They never leave the dock. Instead they cast off their bow and spring lines, swing out to wherever they need to be, perform the function and then use their bow thrusters to return to dock. |
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"Messing In Boats" wrote in message
... Here's the website with the FAQs that state the TWIC is mandated for all credentialed mariners who use their USCG licenses. http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/layers...s.shtm#general I wrote a letter to my Senators and congresswoman complaining about how ridiculous it is for us to be required to pay either $102.25 or $132.50 to haul folks around for hire on our own boats. And this has something to do with homeland security or is it just to line the pockets of some contractor? It states that the USCG and TSA may get together on this to prevent needless duplication of the merchant mariner documentation and the TWIC, but in the meantime we have to go through both processes if your license happens to expire this year. I don't believe you're exempt if your license doesn't expire. If that's the case, please point us to such information. I believe you have to get one either way if you have a license. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Feb 17, 10:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Messing In Boats" wrote in ... Here's the website with the FAQs that state the TWIC is mandated for all credentialed mariners who use their USCG licenses. http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/layers...s.shtm#general I wrote a letter to my Senators and congresswoman complaining about how ridiculous it is for us to be required to pay either $102.25 or $132.50 to haul folks around for hire on our own boats. And this has something to do with homeland security or is it just to line the pockets of some contractor? It states that the USCG and TSA may get together on this to prevent needless duplication of the merchant mariner documentation and the TWIC, but in the meantime we have to go through both processes if your license happens to expire this year. I don't believe you're exempt if your license doesn't expire. If that's the case, please point us to such information. I believe you have to get one either way if you have a license. -- "j" ganz My understanding is that you have to get one if you're going to USE your license. Many folks get them just to have the status and bragging rights, but don't actually take people out for hire with them. The USCG calls them "vanity" licenses. |
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"Messing In Boats" wrote in message
... On Feb 17, 10:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Messing In Boats" wrote in ... Here's the website with the FAQs that state the TWIC is mandated for all credentialed mariners who use their USCG licenses. http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/layers...s.shtm#general I wrote a letter to my Senators and congresswoman complaining about how ridiculous it is for us to be required to pay either $102.25 or $132.50 to haul folks around for hire on our own boats. And this has something to do with homeland security or is it just to line the pockets of some contractor? It states that the USCG and TSA may get together on this to prevent needless duplication of the merchant mariner documentation and the TWIC, but in the meantime we have to go through both processes if your license happens to expire this year. I don't believe you're exempt if your license doesn't expire. If that's the case, please point us to such information. I believe you have to get one either way if you have a license. -- "j" ganz My understanding is that you have to get one if you're going to USE your license. Many folks get them just to have the status and bragging rights, but don't actually take people out for hire with them. The USCG calls them "vanity" licenses. I don't know... there's no mention of this on the website, and the guy who I spoke with at the 800 num, just said, if you have a license, you need a card, but I'm sure you're right, as they're not likely to try and enforce it on that level. If you have a license and you want to use it, you have to have a card. It doesn't matter when it expires or is issued. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Feb 17, 7:40*am, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
wrote: The US, the one I was born in, raised in, boat in, is gone/over/.. done. 1) 52' beautiful life boat. Biuilt about 1950. She is a displacment hull able ot conduct resuce mission in 25-30' seas. Ups, my mistake. That beatiful 52 foooter is rated for 30'-35' seas NOT 25-30. bob |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
: I don't know... there's no mention of this on the website, and the guy who I spoke with at the 800 num, just said, if you have a license, you need a card, but I'm sure you're right, as they're not likely to try and enforce it on that level. If you have a license and you want to use it, you have to have a card. It doesn't matter when it expires or is issued. You're correct Cap'n. EVERYONE with a LICENSE must pay the $132+ fee and SUBMIT to the full background inspection, criminal/citizenship/alien/status. EVERY documented USCG sailor, from the lowliest steward to the master, will be searched, examined, his past inspected, his offences rated before TWIC is issued. Read the webpage yourselves. ONLY the non-documented cruise ship employees with NO unescorted access to the secure areas (bridge, engine room, etc.) will not be required to SUBMIT....and pay. I bet as this bureaucracy grows, exponentially, EVERYONE aboard any boat going offshore is going to have a TWIC before they leave, available for immediate inspection by the DEA, USCG, etc., on demand. It'll be issued to all, just like your passport except you won't have to LAND in some foreign port before it's a requirement. The ultimate aim, of course, is the RFID tagging of every American so he can be tracked, catalogued and forced into submission at any time. TWIC looks like just one facet in the rubix cube of "National Security". Orwell just had the DATE wrong.... Fox News promotes it, of course: http://youtube.com/watch?v=MAI2-_hnFH0 Here's the appropriate section of "Zeitgeist", the NUMBER ONE watched video on YouTube, that relates to this IDing process: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo&feature=related SUBMIT, DAMMIT, SUBMIT! You have no choice! |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in : I don't know... there's no mention of this on the website, and the guy who I spoke with at the 800 num, just said, if you have a license, you need a card, but I'm sure you're right, as they're not likely to try and enforce it on that level. If you have a license and you want to use it, you have to have a card. It doesn't matter when it expires or is issued. You're correct Cap'n. EVERYONE with a LICENSE must pay the $132+ fee and SUBMIT to the full background inspection, criminal/citizenship/alien/status. EVERY documented USCG sailor, from the lowliest steward to the master, will be searched, examined, his past inspected, his offences rated before TWIC is issued. Read the webpage yourselves. ONLY the non-documented cruise ship employees with NO unescorted access to the secure areas (bridge, engine room, etc.) will not be required to SUBMIT....and pay. I bet as this bureaucracy grows, exponentially, EVERYONE aboard any boat going offshore is going to have a TWIC before they leave, available for immediate inspection by the DEA, USCG, etc., on demand. It'll be issued to all, just like your passport except you won't have to LAND in some foreign port before it's a requirement. The ultimate aim, of course, is the RFID tagging of every American so he can be tracked, catalogued and forced into submission at any time. TWIC looks like just one facet in the rubix cube of "National Security". Orwell just had the DATE wrong.... Fox News promotes it, of course: http://youtube.com/watch?v=MAI2-_hnFH0 Here's the appropriate section of "Zeitgeist", the NUMBER ONE watched video on YouTube, that relates to this IDing process: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo&feature=related SUBMIT, DAMMIT, SUBMIT! You have no choice! I guess you didn't have to get a fbi background check last you got/renewed your license... you must be very special. I bet you don't have a passport either! Did they tell you they were going to implant the chip or did they just do it while you were unconscious? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
: Did they tell you they were going to implant the chip or did they just do it while you were unconscious? So far, the chip is only implanted in your new Federal ID card. I suspect the implantations will start on the kids at some special date, maybe to get a driver's license. The chip is coming. Without it, you won't be able to do any financial transaction or any government transaction...at first, before the chip- reading cash registers are mandatory. The Amero may also play into this. I'm seeing more Amero coinage pictures showing up. I'll be amazed if the Amero isn't DIGITAL in nature, not coins and useless printed paper which can't be tracked. I'm thinking part of the reason for the Amero is total tracking of every Amero. ON TOPIC - ROGER - ARE YOU SEEING THIS?!!....(C; You'll walk up to the register at Waste Marine and the register will read your chip. A database containing your financial account will be accessed as the snobbish old ******* behind the counter tallies up the plumbing parts you need. When he punches TOTAL, the 48% sales tax will be added in to fund 3 countries, not one, and the grand total will be moved from YOUR Amero account into Waste Marine's Amero account on some EMC Symmetrix box at the North American Union Private Central Bank that replaced the Federal Reserve Private Central Bank. Your purchase duly recorded to your spending habits sold to the spammers for analysis and advertising, 8 marine plumbing catalogues just dropped off the shelf onto the movement belts on their way to the addressing machinery and postage metering. You'll receive them in 2 weeks, wondering how they got your personal information. When your driver's license is up for renewal, a special room for implantation of the replacement chips to the chips in the TWIC, US ID CARD, Driver's License, will be injected into your neck, just like your dog. The cards will be collected as you won't need them any more, now positively ID'd by your body implant. You won't even need a wallet, unless you want to carry your kids' pictures around to show off. Every cop who approaches you will know exactly who you are, what your rap sheet looks like and any government warrants by the New World Order are out on you, causing him to arrest you, switching your chip from on to prisoner as you enter the van to the jail. You won't try to escape because every time you pass a sign it points to you as Prisoner 23847235982734 and the alarm goes off on every cop within 5 miles.....rendering you incapable of escape, just like everyone else. Every drink you buy at any bar will be accounted for, alerting the appropriate authorities. If you enter any vehicle's driver seat, your ticket will be deducted from your financial account before you even get the key turned, the car will be disabled until you leave the driver's seat and a sober driver replaces you the master computer KNOWS hasn't been drinking. If you try it again, after the warning arrives in the morning on your "screen", your chip will be disabled, your account frozen so you cannot function until you show up for "administrative action" at the courthouse to beg them to turn it back on, which will, of course, automatically deduct a substantial amount of funds moved from YOUR account to the CITY TREASURER. Don't drink and drive!....at all! |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in : Did they tell you they were going to implant the chip or did they just do it while you were unconscious? So far, the chip is only implanted in your new Federal ID card. I suspect the implantations will start on the kids at some special date, maybe to get a driver's license. The chip is coming. Without it, you won't be able to do any financial transaction or any government transaction...at first, before the chip- reading cash registers are mandatory. The Amero may also play into this. I'm seeing more Amero coinage pictures showing up. I'll be amazed if the Amero isn't DIGITAL in nature, not coins and useless printed paper which can't be tracked. I'm thinking part of the reason for the Amero is total tracking of every Amero. ON TOPIC - ROGER - ARE YOU SEEING THIS?!!....(C; You'll walk up to the register at Waste Marine and the register will read your chip. A database containing your financial account will be accessed as the snobbish old ******* behind the counter tallies up the plumbing parts you need. When he punches TOTAL, the 48% sales tax will be added in to fund 3 countries, not one, and the grand total will be moved from YOUR Amero account into Waste Marine's Amero account on some EMC Symmetrix box at the North American Union Private Central Bank that replaced the Federal Reserve Private Central Bank. Your purchase duly recorded to your spending habits sold to the spammers for analysis and advertising, 8 marine plumbing catalogues just dropped off the shelf onto the movement belts on their way to the addressing machinery and postage metering. You'll receive them in 2 weeks, wondering how they got your personal information. When your driver's license is up for renewal, a special room for implantation of the replacement chips to the chips in the TWIC, US ID CARD, Driver's License, will be injected into your neck, just like your dog. The cards will be collected as you won't need them any more, now positively ID'd by your body implant. You won't even need a wallet, unless you want to carry your kids' pictures around to show off. Every cop who approaches you will know exactly who you are, what your rap sheet looks like and any government warrants by the New World Order are out on you, causing him to arrest you, switching your chip from on to prisoner as you enter the van to the jail. You won't try to escape because every time you pass a sign it points to you as Prisoner 23847235982734 and the alarm goes off on every cop within 5 miles.....rendering you incapable of escape, just like everyone else. Every drink you buy at any bar will be accounted for, alerting the appropriate authorities. If you enter any vehicle's driver seat, your ticket will be deducted from your financial account before you even get the key turned, the car will be disabled until you leave the driver's seat and a sober driver replaces you the master computer KNOWS hasn't been drinking. If you try it again, after the warning arrives in the morning on your "screen", your chip will be disabled, your account frozen so you cannot function until you show up for "administrative action" at the courthouse to beg them to turn it back on, which will, of course, automatically deduct a substantial amount of funds moved from YOUR account to the CITY TREASURER. Don't drink and drive!....at all! Larry, I want the chip implanted in my head... expandable storage option would be nice.... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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wrote in message
... I guess you didn't have to get a fbi background check last you got/renewed your license... you must be very special. I bet you don't have a passport either! Did they tell you they were going to implant the chip or did they just do it while you were unconscious? He's always more or less unconscious so they didn't have to ask. :') LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Feb 18, 2:04*pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
Larry, I want the chip implanted in my head... expandable storage option would be nice.... Considering people are already using chips in their pets for ID I think it only prudent to put one in your kid in case a terrorrist bags your child. that way the DHS could call an Amber ALert and find your child. Oh, my new USA Pasport has a chip that is able to be read "... from a near distance...." or so I read in the passport. Humm, I wonder what a near distance is.............. low orbit????? over the horrizon?? LOS Bob |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... On Feb 18, 2:04 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: Larry, I want the chip implanted in my head... expandable storage option would be nice.... Considering people are already using chips in their pets for ID I think it only prudent to put one in your kid in case a terrorrist bags your child. that way the DHS could call an Amber ALert and find your child. Oh, my new USA Pasport has a chip that is able to be read "... from a near distance...." or so I read in the passport. Humm, I wonder what a near distance is.............. low orbit????? over the horrizon?? LOS Bob Anywhere there's a wireless signal... duhhh... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On 2008-02-18 20:29:49 -0500, "Capt. JG" said:
Considering people are already using chips in their pets for ID I think it only prudent to put one in your kid in case a terrorrist bags your child. that way the DHS could call an Amber ALert and find your child. Sad to say, this will likely be the "camel's nose", as there are such services that will track your kid real-time now, and some parents are using them. I believe I saw a chip in the UK; in the US, I believe it's via cell-phone, either by GPS or a service similar to the iPhone/iPod mapping function. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2008021822353075249-jerelull@maccom... On 2008-02-18 20:29:49 -0500, "Capt. JG" said: Considering people are already using chips in their pets for ID I think it only prudent to put one in your kid in case a terrorrist bags your child. that way the DHS could call an Amber ALert and find your child. Sad to say, this will likely be the "camel's nose", as there are such services that will track your kid real-time now, and some parents are using them. I believe I saw a chip in the UK; in the US, I believe it's via cell-phone, either by GPS or a service similar to the iPhone/iPod mapping function. There was a thing on the news tonight where they are putting chips in Alzheimer's patients, down in Florida. I don't think they are trackers, but just identifcation and medical history. Leanne |
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On 2008-02-18 23:03:57 -0500, "Leanne" said:
"Jere Lull" wrote in message news:2008021822353075249-jerelull@maccom... On 2008-02-18 20:29:49 -0500, "Capt. JG" said: Considering people are already using chips in their pets for ID I think it only prudent to put one in your kid in case a terrorrist bags your child. that way the DHS could call an Amber ALert and find your child. Sad to say, this will likely be the "camel's nose", as there are such services that will track your kid real-time now, and some parents are using them. I believe I saw a chip in the UK; in the US, I believe it's via cell-phone, either by GPS or a service similar to the iPhone/iPod mapping function. There was a thing on the news tonight where they are putting chips in Alzheimer's patients, down in Florida. I don't think they are trackers, but just identifcation and medical history. 'Tis funny, but that sort of application sorta appeals to me: information I would like first-responders to have instantly at their fingertips, when accurate information can make a difference. I sorta like the LoJack units that'll pinpoint a stolen vehicle, or the idea that a missing kid could be found quickly. If I ever get a cell-phone, of course I'll have an ICE (in case of emergency) entry. But simply establishing a Wifi connection can now "locate" me. When do we smack the camel's nose? Where does the admitted possible life-saving features balance the possible intrusions? Some say at the first possible intrusion, some consider one saved life worth it, some depend on sheer volume of data to hide amongst. I certainly don't know the answer, even for me. Luckily, TWIC won't possibly matter to me for a bit & our passports are good for a few more years. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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"Bob" wrote in message ... On Feb 18, 2:04 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: Larry, I want the chip implanted in my head... expandable storage option would be nice.... Considering people are already using chips in their pets for ID I think it only prudent to put one in your kid in case a terrorrist bags your child. that way the DHS could call an Amber ALert and find your child. Oh, my new USA Pasport has a chip that is able to be read "... from a near distance...." or so I read in the passport. Humm, I wonder what a near distance is.............. low orbit????? over the horrizon?? LOS Bob Keep it wrapped in tinfoil... |
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"Jere Lull" wrote in message news:2008021902311250073-jerelull@maccom... some consider one saved life worth it, If it would cost a life is it worth the risk? These "chips" are simply RFID tags. They need a fairly strong field in order to be interrogated. The low frequency ones work on magnetic fields and have a shorter range of up to 24" and the high frequency ones work on electric fields and have a range of up to 10-20 feet. Implanting metal in the human body is not a great idea. Break a fork tyne off, insert it fully into a hotdog and cook it in the microwave. See what happens around the metal. With implanted RFID chips you will be at severe risk if you get an MRI, you can't get an MRI if you have shrapnel, metal shavings, shotgun pellets etc in you. If you work in the machine trades and have some metal dust in your eyes you are at risk. So go ahead, implant a "chip" with a receiving antenna/coil on it and jump into an MRI machine. It will be torn from your body and it may not necessarily take the shortest path to the outside. It may even enter the body again on its path through the torus of the MRI machine. Ron Fiengold |
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