On Jan 31, 9:40*pm, hpeer wrote:
Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

This one? I like it too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/World...spagenameZWDVW

Joe

Joe wrote:
On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote:
Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

This one? I like it too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/World...spagenameZWDVW

Joe

Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!!

hpeer wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote:
Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

This one? I like it too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/World...spagenameZWDVW


Joe

Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!!
Joe,

You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup
users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel.

This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least
another bit before taking off.

In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an
opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and let
her carry you on.

And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel,
in Newfoundland.

Sigh and sigh again.

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:25:24 -0500, hpeer wrote:

hpeer wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote:
Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

This one? I like it too.

Joe

Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!!
Joe,

You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup
users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel.

This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least
another bit before taking off.

In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an
opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and let
her carry you on.

And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel,
in Newfoundland.

Sigh and sigh again.


I don't like to be a spoil sport but there are several yacht brokers
in Singapore and a pretty active yachting population.

Frankly selling the boat through e-bay seems strange for two reasons.
First, the boat size and price range is one that sells really well in
this area and , secondly, I checked two of the yacht brokers in the
area and neither list the boat.

Granted that there can be a number of explanations for this but before
you get too excited I would suggest that you contact some of the yacht
brokers in Singapore or SEA, and see whether they know anything about
the boat.

For brokers you could try Lee marine, Howison Marine or Simpson
Marine, google them for Singapore URL, one of them should be able to
give you some information on the boat.



Bruce-in-Bangkok
(Note:remove underscores
from address for reply)

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:25:24 -0500, hpeer wrote:


hpeer wrote:

Joe wrote:

On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote:

Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

This one? I like it too.


Joe

Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!!

Joe,

You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup
users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel.

This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least
another bit before taking off.

In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an
opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and let
her carry you on.

And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel,
in Newfoundland.

Sigh and sigh again.



I don't like to be a spoil sport but there are several yacht brokers
in Singapore and a pretty active yachting population.

Frankly selling the boat through e-bay seems strange for two reasons.
First, the boat size and price range is one that sells really well in
this area and , secondly, I checked two of the yacht brokers in the
area and neither list the boat.

Granted that there can be a number of explanations for this but before
you get too excited I would suggest that you contact some of the yacht
brokers in Singapore or SEA, and see whether they know anything about
the boat.

For brokers you could try Lee marine, Howison Marine or Simpson
Marine, google them for Singapore URL, one of them should be able to
give you some information on the boat.



Bruce-in-Bangkok
(Note:remove underscores
from address for reply)

Then there is the "Buy-It-Now" price of $65,000.

To my mind that's only a fraction of the boat's true value.

On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 05:10:28 -0800, cavalamb himself
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:25:24 -0500, hpeer wrote:


hpeer wrote:

Joe wrote:

On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote:

Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

This one? I like it too.


Joe

Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!!

Joe,

You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup
users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel.

This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least
another bit before taking off.

In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an
opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and let
her carry you on.

And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel,
in Newfoundland.

Sigh and sigh again.



I don't like to be a spoil sport but there are several yacht brokers
in Singapore and a pretty active yachting population.

Frankly selling the boat through e-bay seems strange for two reasons.
First, the boat size and price range is one that sells really well in
this area and , secondly, I checked two of the yacht brokers in the
area and neither list the boat.

Granted that there can be a number of explanations for this but before
you get too excited I would suggest that you contact some of the yacht
brokers in Singapore or SEA, and see whether they know anything about
the boat.

For brokers you could try Lee marine, Howison Marine or Simpson
Marine, google them for Singapore URL, one of them should be able to
give you some information on the boat.



Bruce-in-Bangkok
(Note:remove underscores
from address for reply)

Then there is the "Buy-It-Now" price of $65,000.

To my mind that's only a fraction of the boat's true value.


Or, if the engine is frozen, sails stuffed, corrosion rampart and no
electronics working, maybe too much.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(Note:remove underscores
from address for reply)

cavalamb himself wrote:
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:25:24 -0500, hpeer wrote:


hpeer wrote:

Joe wrote:

On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote:

Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

This one? I like it too.


Joe

Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!!

Joe,

You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup
users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel.

This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at
least another bit before taking off.

In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an
opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and
let her carry you on.

And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not
monel, in Newfoundland.

Sigh and sigh again.



I don't like to be a spoil sport but there are several yacht brokers
in Singapore and a pretty active yachting population.
Frankly selling the boat through e-bay seems strange for two reasons.
First, the boat size and price range is one that sells really well in
this area and , secondly, I checked two of the yacht brokers in the
area and neither list the boat.
Granted that there can be a number of explanations for this but before
you get too excited I would suggest that you contact some of the yacht
brokers in Singapore or SEA, and see whether they know anything about
the boat.

For brokers you could try Lee marine, Howison Marine or Simpson
Marine, google them for Singapore URL, one of them should be able to
give you some information on the boat.



Bruce-in-Bangkok
(Note:remove underscores from address for reply)

Then there is the "Buy-It-Now" price of $65,000.

To my mind that's only a fraction of the boat's true value.

Agreed on both parts, it seems to good to be true and the last buyer
backed out. Supposedly because he could not come up with the cash but
could be for other reasons.

Metal boats are not highly favored here in the states and the welding,
if not well done, could have introduced cosmetic distortion, though it
is not obvious in the pictures.

Also, there is all that 220V AC "stuff" in the boat like the "cooker",
microwave, and convection oven. That sounds like a dock magnet not a
blue water boat as it is being billed.

Also, there is all that "stuff" on the aft davits, but no real vane or
autopilot.

So, I agree that there are some anomalies. Yet, the price is
attractive, and the boat is someplace that is NOT HERE.

Bruce, having never been to Singapore, is it reasonable to find a decent
storage yard where the boat could be put up on the hard and securely
stored for a couple of years? Or is that too outrageously expensive?

Howard

On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:01:29 -0500, hpeer wrote:

cavalamb himself wrote:
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:25:24 -0500, hpeer wrote:


hpeer wrote:

Joe wrote:

On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote:

Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

This one? I like it too.


Joe

Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!!

Joe,

You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup
users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel.

This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at
least another bit before taking off.

In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an
opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and
let her carry you on.

And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not
monel, in Newfoundland.

Sigh and sigh again.



I don't like to be a spoil sport but there are several yacht brokers
in Singapore and a pretty active yachting population.
Frankly selling the boat through e-bay seems strange for two reasons.
First, the boat size and price range is one that sells really well in
this area and , secondly, I checked two of the yacht brokers in the
area and neither list the boat.
Granted that there can be a number of explanations for this but before
you get too excited I would suggest that you contact some of the yacht
brokers in Singapore or SEA, and see whether they know anything about
the boat.

For brokers you could try Lee marine, Howison Marine or Simpson
Marine, google them for Singapore URL, one of them should be able to
give you some information on the boat.



Bruce-in-Bangkok
(Note:remove underscores from address for reply)

Then there is the "Buy-It-Now" price of $65,000.

To my mind that's only a fraction of the boat's true value.

Agreed on both parts, it seems to good to be true and the last buyer
backed out. Supposedly because he could not come up with the cash but
could be for other reasons.

Metal boats are not highly favored here in the states and the welding,
if not well done, could have introduced cosmetic distortion, though it
is not obvious in the pictures.

Also, there is all that 220V AC "stuff" in the boat like the "cooker",
microwave, and convection oven. That sounds like a dock magnet not a
blue water boat as it is being billed.

Also, there is all that "stuff" on the aft davits, but no real vane or
autopilot.

So, I agree that there are some anomalies. Yet, the price is
attractive, and the boat is someplace that is NOT HERE.

Bruce, having never been to Singapore, is it reasonable to find a decent
storage yard where the boat could be put up on the hard and securely
stored for a couple of years? Or is that too outrageously expensive?

Howard

Taking your message point by point.

1. The statement that the underwater parts of the boat are alloy while
the top\sides and cabin are steel would lead one to believe that boat
may be professionally built as that alloy is not cheap and actually
the hull is the cheap part of building a boat. However it could be
that someone came across some cheap alloy going begging.

2. the 220 VAC utilities are standard fare outside the U.S. and
frankly fairly cheap to convert to 110 VAC if you require,

The fact that the boat is equipped with electric "stuff" is pretty
standard for a cruising boat. Most circumnavigaters actually spend
more time in harbors then at sea, and remember that the boat is set up
to live aboard which means that you don' have any other place to live.

Example: A mate is setting off across the Indian ocean later in the
month. Plans on sailing nonstop to India; finding a place to keep the
boat; touring india and returning in about 3 months. He is planning on
a three week voyage to India and three back. Out of a three month
trip.

I didn't look at the pictures very carefully but there MUST have been
an autopilot somewhere. Must have! I only know one person that sails
without an autopilot and he does charters with about 8 people aboard
and everyone stands 2 hour wheel watches.

Finally. there are four marinas in Singapore. One I'm sure has dry
storage another I'm not sure of and the other two not. I'm sure that
you could find a yard that would store the boat for you but I'm not
sure at what cost. The marina cost would, probably, be the same as a
wet berth.

If you are at all serious about buying the boat I would contact
Howison Marine in Singapore and ask them to have a look for you.
Howison and his wife are both good sorts and he probably knows of the
boat and if he doesn't he might be willing to make a few phone calls
and find out. He can also probably give you an idea of storage costs.

I'll be in Singapore right after Chinese New Year and if you are at
least semi serious I can take time to call around and see whether I
can find out some details. If you want that email me at pbaige125 at
gmail dot com and let me know.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(Note:remove underscores
from address for reply)

On Feb 1, 8:25*pm, hpeer wrote:
hpeer wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote:
Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

This one? I like it too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/World...Sailboat-W-Mon...

Joe

Yeah! *Sigh!!!!!!!!!

Joe,

You have outed me here. *Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup
users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel.

Not so sure, had the whole hull been Monel then perhaps so. I have a
problem with a monel to steel weld at or near the waterline. I could
understand a steel cabin and decks as a way to cut cost, but to only
do from the water line up seems like a bad decision.

This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least
another bit before taking off.

In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an
opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. *Go to her and let
her carry you on.

That would be my choice, however the boats a bit small, and as others
have said has been on and off ebay several times. You'd have to go to
Singapore and make sure all is legit.


And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel,
in Newfoundland.

Enjoy it, live the dream. Don't sigh and dream about other boats in
far off ports.
If you must dream about getting a rust proof metal boat try to get
Asperita a 4 mm thick copper-nickel alloy hull buildt in 1967. The
link below even has the current owners name and address......Good
Luck!

http://www.copper.org/applications/c...boat_hull.html

Joe


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