Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

hpeer wrote:
Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

http://www.yachtransport.com/?gclid=...FShciAodRy71Yg
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I looked at transporting a 38 foot sailboat from Hong Kong or Singapore to
east coast of Australia. As I recall it was going to be incredibly
expensive.

Disassembly, load into cradle, fumigate and inspect, transport to shipside
and load on deck, clear customs, transport to yard, install mast, etc,
insurance, GST (Aussie), plus import duty. I don't recall the exact number
but it was on the order of $25-$35k I think. Made it impractical.

In addition, boats are generally more expensive in Oceania / Asia than in
the U.S.

I think it would have to be a pretty special boat to make it worthwhile.


"hpeer" wrote in message
m...
Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

"hpeer" wrote in message
m...
Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard


For Captain/crew, search google for: yacht delivery rate. You'll get a good
approximation.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:40:59 -0500, hpeer wrote:

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

That is *way* too long a delivery trip for a 36 footer.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:40:59 -0500, hpeer wrote:

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

That is *way* too long a delivery trip for a 36 footer.

This is the 2nd time in recent days that you've made this kind of
assertion.

According to George Day, the Editor of Blue Water Cruising, there are
more Tayana 37s cruising offshore than any other single design.

Where is this notion of yours that a boat in the mid 30's is too short
to be a blue water cruiser coming from and what would you consider a
reasonable size boat for an ocean crossing trip. Also, what cruising
have you done? What experience are you basing these garbage opinions on?

If you are going to issue these definitive statements like you know what
you are talking about, they should at least be sensible. There are after
all, lots of people reading these posts that are new to sailing/cruising
and could mistakenly believe you know what you're talking about.
--
Dan Best - (559) 970-9858, Fresno, CA 93704
B-2/75 1977-1979
Tayana 37 #192, "Tricia Jean" http://triciajean192.home.comcast.net

On Jan 31, 9:40*pm, hpeer wrote:
Probably just a pipe dream but..............

Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot
sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US?

Various methods:

Delivery Captain and/or crew???

By ship?????

Many thanks,

Howard

This one? I like it too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/World...spagenameZWDVW

Joe

wrote:
Wayne has a large powerboat and is a coastal cruiser. He says that if
sailboats are in his way, he has every right to deliberately wake them
as he passes.

I remember that thread. What a jerk!

It's unfortunate that some people who are new to sailing or are just
starting out on the path of learning what it takes to go cruising might
read pronouncements like his and abandon the idea as being completely
out of reach.

Interestingly, I just did a quick spot check of some of his posts over
the last couple of months and found that most of his posts contained
what seemed to be interesting and intelligent comments on a variety of
topics.

So, I'll repeat my original question to you, Wayne B., "Where is this
notion of yours that a boat in the mid 30's is too short to be a blue
water cruiser coming from and what would you consider a reasonable size
boat for an ocean crossing trip."

Cerrtainly, there are any number of mid 30 footers that would be
inappropriate because they were never designed for such use, but many
more are really at home out on the open water.
--
Dan Best
s/v Tricia Jean, Tayana 37 #192

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:42:20 -0800, Dan BEst
wrote:

That is *way* too long a delivery trip for a 36 footer.

================================================== ===
This is the 2nd time in recent days that you've made this kind of
assertion.

I assume you are talking about my comment that 38 ft is a bit less
than average for offshore cruising? I believe that to be a true
statement. Most of the boats that I see in offshore destinations are
in the low to mid 40 ft range, some bigger.

According to George Day, the Editor of Blue Water Cruising, there are
more Tayana 37s cruising offshore than any other single design.

I have no idea whether or not that is true, and I doubt that George
does either.

Where is this notion of yours that a boat in the mid 30's is too short
to be a blue water cruiser coming from and what would you consider a
reasonable size boat for an ocean crossing trip.

I never said that but my personal preference is for boats in the mid
40 ft range due to their greater speed, comfort and stowage capacity.

Also, what cruising
have you done? What experience are you basing these garbage opinions on?

Six trips to Bermuda, quite a few to the Bahamas and BVI, plus a lot
of extended coastal cruising over 30+ years in boats ranging from 28
to 55 ft.

If you are going to issue these definitive statements like you know what
you are talking about, they should at least be sensible. There are after
all, lots of people reading these posts that are new to sailing/cruising
and could mistakenly believe you know what you're talking about.

Your mileage may vary.

My post should not be interpreted in anyway as casting aspersions on
your (or anyone elses) Tayana 37. That was not the point. Tayanas can
and do cross oceans, and people like them.

My observation about the proposed delivery relates to cost, and cost
effectiveness, vs shipping. How many days is an on water delivery
from Singapore to the east coast likely to take? I'm guessing at
least 80 to 90 days since the distance is around 12,000 miles. A
delivery crew is likey to cost at least $300 per day plus expenses
which will be considerable. And then there is the issue of wear and
tear on the boat, engine, rigging and sails which will also be
significant. Even if shipping costs are $30K it will still be cheaper
than on water delivery, and a lot less risky. Which brings up my last
issue: Is a 36 ft boat really worth $30K in shipping when you could
probably purchase a comparable boat that is already on the east coast?

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:58:54 -0500, wrote:

He says that if
sailboats are in his way, he has every right to deliberately wake them
as he passes.

That is particularly true for your boat.