I am sure there are non used car salesmen type boat brokers, unfortunatly, I
have yet to meet one

I am sure there are non used car salesmen type boat brokers,
unfortunately, I
have yet to meet one

If your name suggests your location, I can recommend three or four just up
the state from you, on both sides. If you're anywhere on the east coast up
to Baltimore I can recommend others. If you're in either the US or BVI I
can recommend still more.

While I'm sure I could not claim to know it all, I *have* boarded more than
200 boats in the last year, all but a handful with a broker. I could not
have bought my boat (well, technically, I haven't, yet, but, stay tuned)
without a broker....

L8R

Skip

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover." - Mark Twain
--
"And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear
night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are
quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the
general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the
surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient
as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one
that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly
appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin
"Florida Keyz" wrote in message
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I am sure there are non used car salesmen type boat brokers, unfortunatly,
I
have yet to meet one

I am sure there are non used car salesmen type boat brokers,
unfortunately, I
have yet to meet one

If your name suggests your location, I can recommend three or four just up
the state from you, on both sides. If you're anywhere on the east coast up
to Baltimore I can recommend others. If you're in either the US or BVI I
can recommend still more.

While I'm sure I could not claim to know it all, I *have* boarded more than
200 boats in the last year, all but a handful with a broker. I could not
have bought my boat (well, technically, I haven't, yet, but, stay tuned)
without a broker....

L8R

Skip

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover." - Mark Twain
--
"And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear
night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are
quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the
general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the
surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient
as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one
that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly
appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin
"Florida Keyz" wrote in message
...
I am sure there are non used car salesmen type boat brokers, unfortunatly,
I
have yet to meet one

Florida Keyz wrote:

I am sure there are non used car salesmen type boat brokers,
unfortunatly, I have yet to meet one

Come over to my place. One fellow who sold me a used car way back when,
later became a (locally) famous restaurant owner. Great guy, great food.
Another long time friend sells boats (old and new) on the Chesapeake out of
Rock Hall, and he's by far one of the most honest and straight-forward
people one could hope to meet.

But hey, wait a minute. Maybe you just have to look around a little. Isn't
Florida the place that "elected" President Bush?

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/

Florida Keyz wrote:

I am sure there are non used car salesmen type boat brokers,
unfortunatly, I have yet to meet one

Come over to my place. One fellow who sold me a used car way back when,
later became a (locally) famous restaurant owner. Great guy, great food.
Another long time friend sells boats (old and new) on the Chesapeake out of
Rock Hall, and he's by far one of the most honest and straight-forward
people one could hope to meet.

But hey, wait a minute. Maybe you just have to look around a little. Isn't
Florida the place that "elected" President Bush?

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/

Just as a generalization, IMHO, Broker = Working for the Seller or a
Dealership.. Seldom, if ever is he going to consider the buyers true needs
or expectations unless it coincides with what the Seller is offering..

I guess broker with a consience would steer you away from anything that was
beyond your need or where you might later have buyers regret.

I've purchased two boats through brokers and sold one.. This is of ~ dozen
boats I have owned. In, either case, I felt that I got screwed.. (long
story)..

I walk the docks and talk to sellers and other boater to find what I want
not what the broker thinks he can sell me.. If it's broker listing then try
to maintain control over the situation and let the broker be a gofer.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Just as a generalization, IMHO, Broker = Working for the Seller or a
Dealership.. Seldom, if ever is he going to consider the buyers true needs
or expectations unless it coincides with what the Seller is offering..

I guess broker with a consience would steer you away from anything that was
beyond your need or where you might later have buyers regret.

I've purchased two boats through brokers and sold one.. This is of ~ dozen
boats I have owned. In, either case, I felt that I got screwed.. (long
story)..

I walk the docks and talk to sellers and other boater to find what I want
not what the broker thinks he can sell me.. If it's broker listing then try
to maintain control over the situation and let the broker be a gofer.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

I guess broker with a consience would steer you away from anything that was
beyond your need or where you might later have buyers regret.

Heck yes. Sellers are a dime a dozen, genuine buyers are extremely rare. One
sure way to sell a lot of boats is to build up
an honorable relationship with the buyers.
When a lot of boats are sold, a lot of sellers are happy.

Remember that most brokers have access to hundreds and hundreds of boats. Yes,
they are getting paid by the seller- but they are under no compulsion to
represent one seller's offering to the exclusion of all others. The broker
doesn't make a dime unless the buyer finds *something*, and a smart broker will
help a buyer make a wise decision from a broad inventory rather than try to
"stuff" the buyer into a wrong boat.

I always chuckle when I hear the old chestnut, "Always deal with the private
sellers, avoid brokers like the plague!"
If there's anybody with a definite agenda to shoehorn a buyer into a single,
specific, boat it's the private seller. He only has *one* boat for sale, not
hundreds. Most private sellers, like most brokers, are generally honest- but a
crooked private seller (and yes, Elizabeth, they do indeed exist) can get a way
with a lot more on a single isolated transaction that a crooked broker could
ever hope to pull off as a regular course of business. Most states have some
sort of consumer protection laws in place that would eventually shut down the
crooked broker- but nobody bothers to go after the crooked private seller
because the crime is an "isolated incident."

I guess broker with a consience would steer you away from anything that was
beyond your need or where you might later have buyers regret.

Heck yes. Sellers are a dime a dozen, genuine buyers are extremely rare. One
sure way to sell a lot of boats is to build up
an honorable relationship with the buyers.
When a lot of boats are sold, a lot of sellers are happy.

Remember that most brokers have access to hundreds and hundreds of boats. Yes,
they are getting paid by the seller- but they are under no compulsion to
represent one seller's offering to the exclusion of all others. The broker
doesn't make a dime unless the buyer finds *something*, and a smart broker will
help a buyer make a wise decision from a broad inventory rather than try to
"stuff" the buyer into a wrong boat.

I always chuckle when I hear the old chestnut, "Always deal with the private
sellers, avoid brokers like the plague!"
If there's anybody with a definite agenda to shoehorn a buyer into a single,
specific, boat it's the private seller. He only has *one* boat for sale, not
hundreds. Most private sellers, like most brokers, are generally honest- but a
crooked private seller (and yes, Elizabeth, they do indeed exist) can get a way
with a lot more on a single isolated transaction that a crooked broker could
ever hope to pull off as a regular course of business. Most states have some
sort of consumer protection laws in place that would eventually shut down the
crooked broker- but nobody bothers to go after the crooked private seller
because the crime is an "isolated incident."

I am sure there are non used car salesmen type boat brokers, unfortunatly, I
have yet to meet one


with that kind of attitude, you never will.

All good salespeople are taught very early on in their careers to "qualify the
prospect" (meaning, 1.) does he have the money, 2.) does he have the authority
to make a purchase decision, and 3.) will he buy from that particular
salesperson), and should he past that test, 4.) is he worth selling to?.

Your bad attitude disqualifies you on #4 above, which means the good
salespeople won't deal with you (you are far more effort to sell to, far more
effort to keep after the sale, and do far too much bitching afterwards to be
worth the commission), so only the most poor of used car type salespeople will
deal with you. Meaning you get screwed a lot, and pay extra for poorer quality

Which is what you want to happen.

Because you like it, enjoy.