Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.

I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Not according the UN, or many other studies. Tell me that your life
expectancy is the longest in the world, that you have the lowest rate of
infant mortality, that you have the highest rate of literacy, that you
have the greatest percentage of population with decent health care, that
you have the lowest rate of violent crime on the planet, that you have
the lowest rate of recidivism, that you have the most civil liberties,
that you have the most open government.... the list is huge.

Objective? I don't think so.

Cheers
Marty

Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.

I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Not according the UN, or many other studies. Tell me that your life
expectancy is the longest in the world, that you have the lowest rate of
infant mortality, that you have the highest rate of literacy, that you
have the greatest percentage of population with decent health care, that
you have the lowest rate of violent crime on the planet, that you have
the lowest rate of recidivism, that you have the most civil liberties,
that you have the most open government.... the list is huge.

Put it all together, along with economic freedoms, climate, quality of
life, etc, etc, and the US is number one, like it's been for a long time.

Stephen

Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.

I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Not according the UN, or many other studies. Tell me that your life
expectancy is the longest in the world, that you have the lowest rate
of infant mortality, that you have the highest rate of literacy, that
you have the greatest percentage of population with decent health
care, that you have the lowest rate of violent crime on the planet,
that you have the lowest rate of recidivism, that you have the most
civil liberties, that you have the most open government.... the list
is huge.

Put it all together, along with economic freedoms, climate, quality of
life, etc, etc, and the US is number one, like it's been for a long time.


Ah well, yet another example of the shortcomings of your educational
system; conversely a tribute your Ministry of Propaganda...

Cheers
Marty

Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.

I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Not according the UN, or many other studies. Tell me that your life
expectancy is the longest in the world, that you have the lowest rate
of infant mortality, that you have the highest rate of literacy, that
you have the greatest percentage of population with decent health
care, that you have the lowest rate of violent crime on the planet,
that you have the lowest rate of recidivism, that you have the most
civil liberties, that you have the most open government.... the list
is huge.

Put it all together, along with economic freedoms, climate, quality of
life, etc, etc, and the US is number one, like it's been for a long time.


Ah well, yet another example of the shortcomings of your educational
system; conversely a tribute your Ministry of Propaganda...

Ah, the ad hominem fallacy, refuge of those with no argument.

BTW, my education left me a lefty liberal like you, which I've been
until the last ten years ago, despite the ongoing worldwide lefty
liberal media deluge.

Stephen

Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.

I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Not according the UN, or many other studies. Tell me that your life
expectancy is the longest in the world, that you have the lowest
rate of infant mortality, that you have the highest rate of
literacy, that you have the greatest percentage of population with
decent health care, that you have the lowest rate of violent crime
on the planet, that you have the lowest rate of recidivism, that you
have the most civil liberties, that you have the most open
government.... the list is huge.

Put it all together, along with economic freedoms, climate, quality
of life, etc, etc, and the US is number one, like it's been for a
long time.


Ah well, yet another example of the shortcomings of your educational
system; conversely a tribute your Ministry of Propaganda...

Ah, the ad hominem fallacy, refuge of those with no argument.

Hardly the case, considering your complete lack of any reasoning to
refute my allegations. Merely a logical conclusion.

I suggest you review the UN's criteria for nominating the best countries
in the world to live in, You'll find that your particular little set is
included; however contrary to your assertion, the US has not been
listed as number one, ever.

my education left me a lefty liberal like you

What was that about ad hominema, (attacks in this case)? You have no
idea as to my politcal leanings, but I'll try to provide you with a
little edification, they're not liberal.

Cheers
Marty

As for my politlcal leaning, you seem

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:13:28 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

......objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Not according the UN, or many other studies. Tell me that your life
expectancy is the longest in the world, that you have the lowest rate
of infant mortality, that you have the highest rate of literacy, that
you have the greatest percentage of population with decent health
care, that you have the lowest rate of violent crime on the planet,
that you have the lowest rate of recidivism, that you have the most
civil liberties, that you have the most open government.... the list
is huge.

Put it all together, along with economic freedoms, climate, quality of
life, etc, etc, and the US is number one, like it's been for a long time.


Ah well, yet another example of the shortcomings of your educational
system; conversely a tribute your Ministry of Propaganda...

Ah, the ad hominem fallacy, refuge of those with no argument.

BTW, my education left me a lefty liberal like you, which I've been
until the last ten years ago, despite the ongoing worldwide lefty
liberal media deluge.

Stephen


What the unfortunate comment was meant to represent is the
sad but true fact that the US does not have the best life expectancy
and as a consequence not the best infant mortality figures.
The US does not have the largest proportion of population exposed to
Health care, not the highest literacy rate, etc., etc.

But as many people who are willing to court death to get here will
agree, it is a very desirable place to live.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

What the unfortunate comment was meant to represent is the
sad but true fact that the US does not have the best life expectancy
and as a consequence not the best infant mortality figures.
The US does not have the largest proportion of population exposed to
Health care, not the highest literacy rate, etc., etc.

But as many people who are willing to court death to get here will
agree, it is a very desirable place to live.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK


Now that is a true statement.

Cheers
Marty