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Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.

I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Stephen

Not much to be proud of here anymore. Graft grabbing legislators who
do nothing. For instance, a rebate from the almighty to spur the
economy. Except the poor and the elderly won't get as much, if any, than
someone making 70 grand a year.
I'm on soc sec and I got a cost of living raise this year. Whoopee,
they also raised the amount they take out for Medicare so I got a net
gain of 30 bucks a month. My senator got a raise of 375 bucks a month
and he/she doesn't have to pay for any medical!
And now what do we have to choose from for a new prez?
Lets see.........A lady( her denomination is the dollar) who spent
eight years in the senate and got only one important piece of
legislation passed, 100 million to build a museum for Woodstock!
An islamic black man with absolutely no experience in government or
foreign affairs
An ambulance chasing methodist lawyer
A baptist geriatric ex pow who swings with the tide better than a
boat at anchor
A Roman Catholic mayor who happened to be in charge when terrorists
attacked even tho he was probably in bed with one of his honeys at the time
A mormon wall street investor, I wonder where his loyalties will lie
A baptist guvner with a funny name that loves taxes

I think I'll go cruising!
Gordon

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Capt. JG wrote:
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Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.
I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.
All that and still the best country in the world.
In your eyes, not in a good many others.
No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Stephen


Remember the light bulb joke... how many Americans does it take to screw in
a light bulb... just one. He puts the bulb in the socket and the world
revolves around him.

Yeah, US citizens have had guilt about their advantaged place in the
world for decades. So much so that many have turned a microscope on
themselves and magnified their faults so large that they can no longer
see much of the good in their country. Sad, really.

Stephen

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Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.

I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Not according the UN, or many other studies. Tell me that your life
expectancy is the longest in the world, that you have the lowest rate of
infant mortality, that you have the highest rate of literacy, that you
have the greatest percentage of population with decent health care, that
you have the lowest rate of violent crime on the planet, that you have
the lowest rate of recidivism, that you have the most civil liberties,
that you have the most open government.... the list is huge.

Put it all together, along with economic freedoms, climate, quality of
life, etc, etc, and the US is number one, like it's been for a long time.

Stephen

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Gordon wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.

I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Stephen

Not much to be proud of here anymore. Graft grabbing legislators who
do nothing. For instance, a rebate from the almighty to spur the
economy. Except the poor and the elderly won't get as much, if any, than
someone making 70 grand a year.
I'm on soc sec and I got a cost of living raise this year. Whoopee,
they also raised the amount they take out for Medicare so I got a net
gain of 30 bucks a month. My senator got a raise of 375 bucks a month
and he/she doesn't have to pay for any medical!
And now what do we have to choose from for a new prez?
Lets see.........A lady( her denomination is the dollar) who spent
eight years in the senate and got only one important piece of
legislation passed, 100 million to build a museum for Woodstock!
An islamic black man with absolutely no experience in government or
foreign affairs
An ambulance chasing methodist lawyer
A baptist geriatric ex pow who swings with the tide better than a boat
at anchor
A Roman Catholic mayor who happened to be in charge when terrorists
attacked even tho he was probably in bed with one of his honeys at the time
A mormon wall street investor, I wonder where his loyalties will lie
A baptist guvner with a funny name that loves taxes

Yeah, pretty bad, eh. But like Churchill said. Democracy is the worst
form of government, except for all the others that have come along so far.

Stephen

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Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.

I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Not according the UN, or many other studies. Tell me that your life
expectancy is the longest in the world, that you have the lowest rate
of infant mortality, that you have the highest rate of literacy, that
you have the greatest percentage of population with decent health
care, that you have the lowest rate of violent crime on the planet,
that you have the lowest rate of recidivism, that you have the most
civil liberties, that you have the most open government.... the list
is huge.

Put it all together, along with economic freedoms, climate, quality of
life, etc, etc, and the US is number one, like it's been for a long time.


Ah well, yet another example of the shortcomings of your educational
system; conversely a tribute your Ministry of Propaganda...

Cheers
Marty

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Stephen Trapani wrote:

Yeah, pretty bad, eh. But like Churchill said. Democracy is the worst
form of government, except for all the others that have come along so far.


Good grief Stevie, is there no end to to your gullibility?

Cheers
Marty

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Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.

I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Not according the UN, or many other studies. Tell me that your life
expectancy is the longest in the world, that you have the lowest rate
of infant mortality, that you have the highest rate of literacy, that
you have the greatest percentage of population with decent health
care, that you have the lowest rate of violent crime on the planet,
that you have the lowest rate of recidivism, that you have the most
civil liberties, that you have the most open government.... the list
is huge.

Put it all together, along with economic freedoms, climate, quality of
life, etc, etc, and the US is number one, like it's been for a long time.


Ah well, yet another example of the shortcomings of your educational
system; conversely a tribute your Ministry of Propaganda...

Ah, the ad hominem fallacy, refuge of those with no argument.

BTW, my education left me a lefty liberal like you, which I've been
until the last ten years ago, despite the ongoing worldwide lefty
liberal media deluge.

Stephen

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Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:essels for the USCG
without getting so much as a usable dinghy.

It's so depressing to watch. Even worse to be paying for.

I do not envy you on that - what a pity for such a wonderful land.

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Not according the UN, or many other studies. Tell me that your life
expectancy is the longest in the world, that you have the lowest
rate of infant mortality, that you have the highest rate of
literacy, that you have the greatest percentage of population with
decent health care, that you have the lowest rate of violent crime
on the planet, that you have the lowest rate of recidivism, that you
have the most civil liberties, that you have the most open
government.... the list is huge.

Put it all together, along with economic freedoms, climate, quality
of life, etc, etc, and the US is number one, like it's been for a
long time.


Ah well, yet another example of the shortcomings of your educational
system; conversely a tribute your Ministry of Propaganda...

Ah, the ad hominem fallacy, refuge of those with no argument.

Hardly the case, considering your complete lack of any reasoning to
refute my allegations. Merely a logical conclusion.

I suggest you review the UN's criteria for nominating the best countries
in the world to live in, You'll find that your particular little set is
included; however contrary to your assertion, the US has not been
listed as number one, ever.

my education left me a lefty liberal like you

What was that about ad hominema, (attacks in this case)? You have no
idea as to my politcal leanings, but I'll try to provide you with a
little edification, they're not liberal.

Cheers
Marty

As for my politlcal leaning, you seem

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On 2008-01-27 17:25:16 -0500, Stephen Trapani said:

Marty wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:

All that and still the best country in the world.

In your eyes, not in a good many others.

No, not in my eyes, objectively, by any reasonable measure.

"Best" is not objective. It's subjective. The choice of statistics to
include or exclude is based upon the measurer's biases, so the results
will be as well.

The measure that I believe approaches objectivity is how many want to
live there --or leave-- legally or illegally.

(Yes, I think we're in agreement, but this seemed to be the best place
to break in.)

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:13:28 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

......objectively, by any reasonable measure.

Not according the UN, or many other studies. Tell me that your life
expectancy is the longest in the world, that you have the lowest rate
of infant mortality, that you have the highest rate of literacy, that
you have the greatest percentage of population with decent health
care, that you have the lowest rate of violent crime on the planet,
that you have the lowest rate of recidivism, that you have the most
civil liberties, that you have the most open government.... the list
is huge.

Put it all together, along with economic freedoms, climate, quality of
life, etc, etc, and the US is number one, like it's been for a long time.


Ah well, yet another example of the shortcomings of your educational
system; conversely a tribute your Ministry of Propaganda...

Ah, the ad hominem fallacy, refuge of those with no argument.

BTW, my education left me a lefty liberal like you, which I've been
until the last ten years ago, despite the ongoing worldwide lefty
liberal media deluge.

Stephen


What the unfortunate comment was meant to represent is the
sad but true fact that the US does not have the best life expectancy
and as a consequence not the best infant mortality figures.
The US does not have the largest proportion of population exposed to
Health care, not the highest literacy rate, etc., etc.

But as many people who are willing to court death to get here will
agree, it is a very desirable place to live.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK