On Jan 2, 7:21*am, "Roger Long" wrote:

The buoy reports for the area don't show the winds so bad that a vessel like
Red Cloud with a master as experienced as Joe should have gone down unless
there was a flooding problem.
Roger Long

Hi Roger:

Would yo care to comment on your earlier words below from NOvember 10,
2007:

"...For the record, just in case you get abducted by aliens or have
some other
mishap, I did not provide you with a formula to determine how much
cargo you
can safely carry. I did give you a way to make a rough estimate of
how much
your draft will change with the addition of weight. Whether your
vessel is
"safe" at *any* particular draft is a very different question.

Even when I do a complete stability analysis, stability test,
computer
model, Coast Guard stability criteria, loading conditions, righting
arms,
wind heel area, etc., safety has little to do with it. The boiler
plate in
the letter that accompanies such reports states that I am not
expressing any
opinion about the vessel's safety or seaworthiness. I perform
standard
calculations in accordance with a recognized methodology to determine
certain characteristics. International research and conventions has
produced a consensus that certain measures of these characteristics
are
associated with vessels that have a reasonable chance of surviving
the
effects of weather. Some of these measures have been turned into
regulation. It is the comparison of the characteristics found by the
calculations I perform with numbers determined by IMO, USCG, and
other
organizations that makes the determination of safety, not my
opinion. ...."

What was your opinion????????????

Bob