Radar on a cell phone
Jax, you lost that one! Ha!!
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Radar on a cell phone
Jax:
I did say "in the summer". The Schooner Race is held in October as I recall. We don't get a lot of thunderstorms in October. Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... I sailed end to end last summer, and sailed The Great Chesapeake Bay Schooner Race, Annapolis to Norfolk, the year before in winds against the current up to 35 knots gusting to 40, and then back to Annapolis. Long Island Sound gets thunderstorm, too. In addition, in the Midwest where I spent the first 3-1/2 decades of my life summertime afternoon thunderstorms very frequent and well watched because they sometimes spit out tornadoes. I have also been through the typhoon season in SE Asia. thunderstorms are --- easy --- to see coming -- without a cell phone to tell you -- if you just pay attention. Je JAX has never sailed on the Chesapeake in the summer. Some on this list might argue he's never sailed anything other than a keyboard but I leave that to them. Eric Jere Lull wrote in message ... In article , (Eric) wrote: Climate is very different as you move a bit further South. There is good likelihood of thunderstorms every day for most of the summer. Staying off the water when NWS says there's a chance of thunderstorms means you don't sail at all in the summer. Ain't THAT the truth! One day last season, the prediction was only 20% chance of afternoon showers and thunderstorms. We were so shocked; didn't know their equipment COULD predict less than 30% in the summer. Last year was a real PITA. Friends (powerboaters, no less) who get out more than us some years, found fewer than a dozen days with good enough forecasts. We pushed the envelope a bit, sometimes skittering out between cells, but only got out about 60 days including our annual 2 week honeymoon. (only 3 of those 18 days in June were clear and warm.) Didn't go very far, either. |
Radar on a cell phone
yes, of course. *you* need to be scared squatless without a cell phone to
inform *you* that a thunderstorm might be nearby. Jax: I did say "in the summer". The Schooner Race is held in October as I recall. We don't get a lot of thunderstorms in October. Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... I sailed end to end last summer, and sailed The Great Chesapeake Bay Schooner Race, Annapolis to Norfolk, the year before in winds against the current up to 35 knots gusting to 40, and then back to Annapolis. Long Island Sound gets thunderstorm, too. In addition, in the Midwest where I spent the first 3-1/2 decades of my life summertime afternoon thunderstorms very frequent and well watched because they sometimes spit out tornadoes. I have also been through the typhoon season in SE Asia. thunderstorms are --- easy --- to see coming -- without a cell phone to tell you -- if you just pay attention. Je JAX has never sailed on the Chesapeake in the summer. Some on this list might argue he's never sailed anything other than a keyboard but I leave that to them. Eric Jere Lull wrote in message ... In article , (Eric) wrote: Climate is very different as you move a bit further South. There is good likelihood of thunderstorms every day for most of the summer. Staying off the water when NWS says there's a chance of thunderstorms means you don't sail at all in the summer. Ain't THAT the truth! One day last season, the prediction was only 20% chance of afternoon showers and thunderstorms. We were so shocked; didn't know their equipment COULD predict less than 30% in the summer. Last year was a real PITA. Friends (powerboaters, no less) who get out more than us some years, found fewer than a dozen days with good enough forecasts. We pushed the envelope a bit, sometimes skittering out between cells, but only got out about 60 days including our annual 2 week honeymoon. (only 3 of those 18 days in June were clear and warm.) Didn't go very far, either. |
Radar on a cell phone
yes, of course. *you* need to be scared squatless without a cell phone to
inform *you* that a thunderstorm might be nearby. Jax: I did say "in the summer". The Schooner Race is held in October as I recall. We don't get a lot of thunderstorms in October. Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... I sailed end to end last summer, and sailed The Great Chesapeake Bay Schooner Race, Annapolis to Norfolk, the year before in winds against the current up to 35 knots gusting to 40, and then back to Annapolis. Long Island Sound gets thunderstorm, too. In addition, in the Midwest where I spent the first 3-1/2 decades of my life summertime afternoon thunderstorms very frequent and well watched because they sometimes spit out tornadoes. I have also been through the typhoon season in SE Asia. thunderstorms are --- easy --- to see coming -- without a cell phone to tell you -- if you just pay attention. Je JAX has never sailed on the Chesapeake in the summer. Some on this list might argue he's never sailed anything other than a keyboard but I leave that to them. Eric Jere Lull wrote in message ... In article , (Eric) wrote: Climate is very different as you move a bit further South. There is good likelihood of thunderstorms every day for most of the summer. Staying off the water when NWS says there's a chance of thunderstorms means you don't sail at all in the summer. Ain't THAT the truth! One day last season, the prediction was only 20% chance of afternoon showers and thunderstorms. We were so shocked; didn't know their equipment COULD predict less than 30% in the summer. Last year was a real PITA. Friends (powerboaters, no less) who get out more than us some years, found fewer than a dozen days with good enough forecasts. We pushed the envelope a bit, sometimes skittering out between cells, but only got out about 60 days including our annual 2 week honeymoon. (only 3 of those 18 days in June were clear and warm.) Didn't go very far, either. |
Radar on a cell phone
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Radar on a cell phone
eric, what a p.o.s. way back in history a critter like you would be left
behind in the woods as the humans moved on. you consume oxygen humans use. I'm trying to visualize "a floating navigation hazzard" - I'm seeing the "General Lee" complete with stars and bars not to mention mast and boom afloat in the Bay! Yeeeee Haaaaa! Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... say what you wish, but at this point the entire planet knows you are scared to death of the water. Buy ALL the "safety" equipment you can find, dude. please spend, and spend, and spend until your boat sinks at the dock with no chance to ever become a floating navigation hazzard. Jax: I just love a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent! Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... eric, if you mind very much how about from now on you refer to you as chicken**** instead of as eric. Stay tied to the dock. Period. You are not qualified to be a sailor if you need a cell phone to tell you there is a thunderstorm in the 'hood. And I most certainly would not trust you, or your judgement about weather! Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... eric, it seems you have seen just two thunderstorms in your life, and one of them came "unexpectedly". Trust me, eric, thunderstorms don't just "happen". I doubt I have been surprised by one since I was 8 years old. If you could see it you would have 16 1/2 hours (and if it was only moving at 10 knots - that's pretty slow for a thunderstorm). The point is - typical visibility at the surface is 7 to 10 miles on a very clear day. With summer haze it is frequently much less than that. If the storm moves 20 miles an hour (not all that fast for a thunderstorm), 10 mile visibility gives me 1/2 hour. Moving at 6 knots, I can move my boat a little over three miles in that 1/2 hour. Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... yeah, right. at 165 nm way an 10 knots speed it will only take 16-1/2 hours for a thunderstorm to get to you. FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR too quickly for you react. You really should buy a cell phone to tell you that a storm is on its way and may hit you sometime tomorrown afternoon. Gosh, maybe I need new glasses - when I'm in the Bay off Annapolis, I just can't see those clouds over Morgantown, West Virginia - a mere 165 nm away. In fact, from the top of Old Rag mountain at over 3200 feet, most days I can't make out Washington, D.C. a mere 70 miles away (needless to say, I don't do this in a sailboat). Maybe I need Lasik! Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... There are lots of places where people sail and it's difficult to see a thunderstorm coming bull****. Thunderstorm clouds go as high as 60,000 feet sometimes, which means they can be seen up to 300 nm away. Even 10,000 foot high clouds can be seen up to 122 nm away. Can't see that coming? And there are many places where the potential exists every day in the summer thunderstorms don't form inside of 30 seconds. You *KNOW* they are coming, if one just pays attention. |
Radar on a cell phone
eric, what a p.o.s. way back in history a critter like you would be left
behind in the woods as the humans moved on. you consume oxygen humans use. I'm trying to visualize "a floating navigation hazzard" - I'm seeing the "General Lee" complete with stars and bars not to mention mast and boom afloat in the Bay! Yeeeee Haaaaa! Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... say what you wish, but at this point the entire planet knows you are scared to death of the water. Buy ALL the "safety" equipment you can find, dude. please spend, and spend, and spend until your boat sinks at the dock with no chance to ever become a floating navigation hazzard. Jax: I just love a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent! Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... eric, if you mind very much how about from now on you refer to you as chicken**** instead of as eric. Stay tied to the dock. Period. You are not qualified to be a sailor if you need a cell phone to tell you there is a thunderstorm in the 'hood. And I most certainly would not trust you, or your judgement about weather! Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... eric, it seems you have seen just two thunderstorms in your life, and one of them came "unexpectedly". Trust me, eric, thunderstorms don't just "happen". I doubt I have been surprised by one since I was 8 years old. If you could see it you would have 16 1/2 hours (and if it was only moving at 10 knots - that's pretty slow for a thunderstorm). The point is - typical visibility at the surface is 7 to 10 miles on a very clear day. With summer haze it is frequently much less than that. If the storm moves 20 miles an hour (not all that fast for a thunderstorm), 10 mile visibility gives me 1/2 hour. Moving at 6 knots, I can move my boat a little over three miles in that 1/2 hour. Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... yeah, right. at 165 nm way an 10 knots speed it will only take 16-1/2 hours for a thunderstorm to get to you. FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR too quickly for you react. You really should buy a cell phone to tell you that a storm is on its way and may hit you sometime tomorrown afternoon. Gosh, maybe I need new glasses - when I'm in the Bay off Annapolis, I just can't see those clouds over Morgantown, West Virginia - a mere 165 nm away. In fact, from the top of Old Rag mountain at over 3200 feet, most days I can't make out Washington, D.C. a mere 70 miles away (needless to say, I don't do this in a sailboat). Maybe I need Lasik! Eric (JAXAshby) wrote in message ... There are lots of places where people sail and it's difficult to see a thunderstorm coming bull****. Thunderstorm clouds go as high as 60,000 feet sometimes, which means they can be seen up to 300 nm away. Even 10,000 foot high clouds can be seen up to 122 nm away. Can't see that coming? And there are many places where the potential exists every day in the summer thunderstorms don't form inside of 30 seconds. You *KNOW* they are coming, if one just pays attention. |
Radar on a cell phone
only the ignorant have to use cuss words, huh Jax?
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Radar on a cell phone
only the ignorant have to use cuss words, huh Jax?
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Radar on a cell phone
His theory is if you can't win your argument with logic, insult your opponent.
Hmmmm, maybe JAX should be in politics? Eric (Florida Keyz) wrote in message ... only the ignorant have to use cuss words, huh Jax? |
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His theory is if you can't win your argument with logic, insult your opponent.
Hmmmm, maybe JAX should be in politics? Eric (Florida Keyz) wrote in message ... only the ignorant have to use cuss words, huh Jax? |
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Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff? Are you saying the CG should require that ALL water taxis carry --
and monitor -- a radar enabled cell phone? Do suppose it might be more effective to require water taxi drivers to be able to understand weather? Hey! Wait a minute! Water taxi drivers are required to be able to understand weather. So, schlackoff are you trying to tell us you have stock in some startup cell phone company? Did you pick up Bernie Ebbers stock for pennies? (JAXAshby) wrote: jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an approaching thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can see one developing for a couple hours or more. This ain't rocket science, except to those floating on training wheels (who be definition are scared squatless of the water). We now know, tragically, that this is complete BS. Steve |
Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff? Are you saying the CG should require that ALL water taxis carry --
and monitor -- a radar enabled cell phone? Do suppose it might be more effective to require water taxi drivers to be able to understand weather? Hey! Wait a minute! Water taxi drivers are required to be able to understand weather. So, schlackoff are you trying to tell us you have stock in some startup cell phone company? Did you pick up Bernie Ebbers stock for pennies? (JAXAshby) wrote: jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an approaching thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can see one developing for a couple hours or more. This ain't rocket science, except to those floating on training wheels (who be definition are scared squatless of the water). We now know, tragically, that this is complete BS. Steve |
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Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff, re-read what you wrote and be embarrassed for yourself, for you are
unequivically stating that a.) the operator of the water taxi was unable to see the weather developing, and b.) a cell phone would have. dumb. schlackoff? Are you saying the CG should require that ALL water taxis carry -- and monitor -- a radar enabled cell phone? Um, no. I'm saying that, as many have argued in the thread and as has now been proven, your statement (quoted here again:) jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an approaching thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can see one developing for a couple hours or more. This ain't rocket science, except to those floating on training wheels (who be definition are scared squatless of the water). is total BS. Do suppose it might be more effective to require water taxi drivers to be able to understand weather? Hey! Wait a minute! Water taxi drivers are required to be able to understand weather. Understanding the weather wouldn't have mattered a whit in this case, which is the point. There was a total of 10 minutes of warning for the cell that hit the taxi. 10 minutes is nowhere near your claim of seeing potential storms developing for hours or more. I.e, what happened is exactly what you said can't happen. Your claim that "we can see one developing for a couple hours or more" is now unequivocally proven to be total BS, just as we all suspected. Steve |
Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff, re-read what you wrote and be embarrassed for yourself, for you are
unequivically stating that a.) the operator of the water taxi was unable to see the weather developing, and b.) a cell phone would have. dumb. schlackoff? Are you saying the CG should require that ALL water taxis carry -- and monitor -- a radar enabled cell phone? Um, no. I'm saying that, as many have argued in the thread and as has now been proven, your statement (quoted here again:) jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an approaching thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can see one developing for a couple hours or more. This ain't rocket science, except to those floating on training wheels (who be definition are scared squatless of the water). is total BS. Do suppose it might be more effective to require water taxi drivers to be able to understand weather? Hey! Wait a minute! Water taxi drivers are required to be able to understand weather. Understanding the weather wouldn't have mattered a whit in this case, which is the point. There was a total of 10 minutes of warning for the cell that hit the taxi. 10 minutes is nowhere near your claim of seeing potential storms developing for hours or more. I.e, what happened is exactly what you said can't happen. Your claim that "we can see one developing for a couple hours or more" is now unequivocally proven to be total BS, just as we all suspected. Steve |
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Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff, you bring nothing of any value to any discussion. Not sure whether
you are too dumb not to sit in dog****, or you just like to. btw, do you suppose the water taxi driver was told about the winds coming. that's the news report, which may be wrong. but schlackoff just wants to say the driver was totally unable to see what was coming, thus excusing schlackoff from seeing what's coming. maybe schlackoff isn't dumb? maybe he is lazy? schlackoff, re-read what you wrote and be embarrassed for yourself, for you are unequivically stating that a.) the operator of the water taxi was unable to see the weather developing, and b.) a cell phone would have. Seems like you can't even understand simple english. Nowhere did I say anything about a cell phone. I'll say it again, your statement: "jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an approaching thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can see one developing for a couple hours or more." has been proven to be wrong. Again, there's no mention of a cellphone in your statement and I didn't say anything about a cellphone either. The only thing I'm saying is that your statement above is wrong. That's it, nothing more. Can you comprehend that? Steve schlackoff? Are you saying the CG should require that ALL water taxis carry -- and monitor -- a radar enabled cell phone? Um, no. I'm saying that, as many have argued in the thread and as has now been proven, your statement (quoted here again:) jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an approaching thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can see one developing for a couple hours or more. This ain't rocket science, except to those floating on training wheels (who be definition are scared squatless of the water). is total BS. Do suppose it might be more effective to require water taxi drivers to be able to understand weather? Hey! Wait a minute! Water taxi drivers are required to be able to understand weather. Understanding the weather wouldn't have mattered a whit in this case, which is the point. There was a total of 10 minutes of warning for the cell that hit the taxi. 10 minutes is nowhere near your claim of seeing potential storms developing for hours or more. I.e, what happened is exactly what you said can't happen. Your claim that "we can see one developing for a couple hours or more" is now unequivocally proven to be total BS, just as we all suspected. Steve |
Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff, you bring nothing of any value to any discussion. Not sure whether
you are too dumb not to sit in dog****, or you just like to. btw, do you suppose the water taxi driver was told about the winds coming. that's the news report, which may be wrong. but schlackoff just wants to say the driver was totally unable to see what was coming, thus excusing schlackoff from seeing what's coming. maybe schlackoff isn't dumb? maybe he is lazy? schlackoff, re-read what you wrote and be embarrassed for yourself, for you are unequivically stating that a.) the operator of the water taxi was unable to see the weather developing, and b.) a cell phone would have. Seems like you can't even understand simple english. Nowhere did I say anything about a cell phone. I'll say it again, your statement: "jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an approaching thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can see one developing for a couple hours or more." has been proven to be wrong. Again, there's no mention of a cellphone in your statement and I didn't say anything about a cellphone either. The only thing I'm saying is that your statement above is wrong. That's it, nothing more. Can you comprehend that? Steve schlackoff? Are you saying the CG should require that ALL water taxis carry -- and monitor -- a radar enabled cell phone? Um, no. I'm saying that, as many have argued in the thread and as has now been proven, your statement (quoted here again:) jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an approaching thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can see one developing for a couple hours or more. This ain't rocket science, except to those floating on training wheels (who be definition are scared squatless of the water). is total BS. Do suppose it might be more effective to require water taxi drivers to be able to understand weather? Hey! Wait a minute! Water taxi drivers are required to be able to understand weather. Understanding the weather wouldn't have mattered a whit in this case, which is the point. There was a total of 10 minutes of warning for the cell that hit the taxi. 10 minutes is nowhere near your claim of seeing potential storms developing for hours or more. I.e, what happened is exactly what you said can't happen. Your claim that "we can see one developing for a couple hours or more" is now unequivocally proven to be total BS, just as we all suspected. Steve |
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Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff, it is a sad fact that you consume oxygen that might otherwise be
used by human beings. Not sure about lazy, but definitely dumb. |
Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff, it is a sad fact that you consume oxygen that might otherwise be
used by human beings. Not sure about lazy, but definitely dumb. |
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Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff, that water was discribed as a "land enclosed lake" and it was
reported that boaters as far away as Annapolis could see the storm clouds. Sad that the trouble developed, but you cell phone would not have helped. Sorry that you can't see anything. schlackoff, it is a sad fact that you consume oxygen that might otherwise be used by human beings. Judging from your posts, you certainly don't use any. Steve |
Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff, that water was discribed as a "land enclosed lake" and it was
reported that boaters as far away as Annapolis could see the storm clouds. Sad that the trouble developed, but you cell phone would not have helped. Sorry that you can't see anything. schlackoff, it is a sad fact that you consume oxygen that might otherwise be used by human beings. Judging from your posts, you certainly don't use any. Steve |
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Radar on a cell phone
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Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff, never let it be said that truth in any way concerns you. your only
concern seems to be to convince the entire world that what nobody who has ever seen you step foot on a boat knows, namely you are scared to death of the water. schlackoff, that water was discribed as a "land enclosed lake" and it was reported that boaters as far away as Annapolis could see the storm clouds. Sad that the trouble developed, but you cell phone would not have helped. Oxygen deprivation set in again? Your cell phone halucinations are becoming tiresome. Steve |
Radar on a cell phone
schlackoff, never let it be said that truth in any way concerns you. your only
concern seems to be to convince the entire world that what nobody who has ever seen you step foot on a boat knows, namely you are scared to death of the water. schlackoff, that water was discribed as a "land enclosed lake" and it was reported that boaters as far away as Annapolis could see the storm clouds. Sad that the trouble developed, but you cell phone would not have helped. Oxygen deprivation set in again? Your cell phone halucinations are becoming tiresome. Steve |
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