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David Balfour January 23rd 04 02:50 PM

Inflatable radar reflector
 
http://www.landfallnavigation.com/sem230i.html

They are quite good in terms of RCS, but be careful not to inflate them too
much or the reflector will split from the beach ball, degrading performance.

David


"Parallax" wrote in message
om...
I never posted this Useless Idea because I thouhgt it was a good one.
I was about to file the provisional patent application till I did a
check on the USPTO website and found I am 4 yrs too late.


So........

Most radar refelctors are a pain in the ass, especially the most
effective ones, the corner refelctor ones. Some are preassembled and
are a pain to store. The one I have consists of 3 interlocking
metallized foam sheets that has to be assembled. Then, they have to
be mounted in the "catch rain" position which is difficult sometimes.


I wanted to make an inflatable one, sort of like a beach ball with the
three orthogonal planes made from metallized thin plastic on the
inside of the beachball. It would be weighted so it always hung in
the right position. I bet I could make these for $1.00 and sell them
for $20.00. Unfortunately, somebody beat me to it, it was patented in
2000.

Now, I want one but will not take the trouble to make it since it may
already exist. Anybody know where to get something like this?




LaBomba182 January 23rd 04 10:16 PM

Inflatable radar reflector
 
Subject: Inflatable radar reflector
From: Jim


I have a 50 mile radar on my trawler because it was installed by a
former owner. Personally, I can't imagine why I would want to turn it on.


You mean other than the fact that you are legally required to?

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 January 23rd 04 10:16 PM

Inflatable radar reflector
 
Subject: Inflatable radar reflector
From: Jim


I have a 50 mile radar on my trawler because it was installed by a
former owner. Personally, I can't imagine why I would want to turn it on.


You mean other than the fact that you are legally required to?

Capt. Bill

Larry W4CSC January 24th 04 02:43 PM

Inflatable radar reflector
 
On 23 Jan 2004 22:16:10 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Inflatable radar reflector
From: Jim


I have a 50 mile radar on my trawler because it was installed by a
former owner. Personally, I can't imagine why I would want to turn it on.


You mean other than the fact that you are legally required to?

Capt. Bill


Of course, he'd have to pull the Dock Condo away from the dock,
wouldn't he?....(c;


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

Larry W4CSC January 24th 04 02:43 PM

Inflatable radar reflector
 
On 23 Jan 2004 22:16:10 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Inflatable radar reflector
From: Jim


I have a 50 mile radar on my trawler because it was installed by a
former owner. Personally, I can't imagine why I would want to turn it on.


You mean other than the fact that you are legally required to?

Capt. Bill


Of course, he'd have to pull the Dock Condo away from the dock,
wouldn't he?....(c;


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

Dave Teece January 27th 04 11:26 PM

Inflatable radar reflector
 
I wonder what the wind does to one of these? I know the metal ones
aren't streamlined like this but at least they have a bit more weight to
stay put. This inflated bag looks like it would like to just sail away.

David Balfour wrote:

http://www.landfallnavigation.com/sem230i.html

They are quite good in terms of RCS, but be careful not to inflate them too
much or the reflector will split from the beach ball, degrading performance.

David

"Parallax" wrote in message
om...
I never posted this Useless Idea because I thouhgt it was a good one.
I was about to file the provisional patent application till I did a
check on the USPTO website and found I am 4 yrs too late.


So........

Most radar refelctors are a pain in the ass, especially the most
effective ones, the corner refelctor ones. Some are preassembled and
are a pain to store. The one I have consists of 3 interlocking
metallized foam sheets that has to be assembled. Then, they have to
be mounted in the "catch rain" position which is difficult sometimes.


I wanted to make an inflatable one, sort of like a beach ball with the
three orthogonal planes made from metallized thin plastic on the
inside of the beachball. It would be weighted so it always hung in
the right position. I bet I could make these for $1.00 and sell them
for $20.00. Unfortunately, somebody beat me to it, it was patented in
2000.

Now, I want one but will not take the trouble to make it since it may
already exist. Anybody know where to get something like this?


Dave Teece January 27th 04 11:26 PM

Inflatable radar reflector
 
I wonder what the wind does to one of these? I know the metal ones
aren't streamlined like this but at least they have a bit more weight to
stay put. This inflated bag looks like it would like to just sail away.

David Balfour wrote:

http://www.landfallnavigation.com/sem230i.html

They are quite good in terms of RCS, but be careful not to inflate them too
much or the reflector will split from the beach ball, degrading performance.

David

"Parallax" wrote in message
om...
I never posted this Useless Idea because I thouhgt it was a good one.
I was about to file the provisional patent application till I did a
check on the USPTO website and found I am 4 yrs too late.


So........

Most radar refelctors are a pain in the ass, especially the most
effective ones, the corner refelctor ones. Some are preassembled and
are a pain to store. The one I have consists of 3 interlocking
metallized foam sheets that has to be assembled. Then, they have to
be mounted in the "catch rain" position which is difficult sometimes.


I wanted to make an inflatable one, sort of like a beach ball with the
three orthogonal planes made from metallized thin plastic on the
inside of the beachball. It would be weighted so it always hung in
the right position. I bet I could make these for $1.00 and sell them
for $20.00. Unfortunately, somebody beat me to it, it was patented in
2000.

Now, I want one but will not take the trouble to make it since it may
already exist. Anybody know where to get something like this?


nospam February 3rd 04 04:40 AM

Inflatable radar reflector
 
The guy who wrote telling you to keep your eyes open and to forget all
about radar and radar reflectors might have had a point. I'll tell
you why.

Some years back I was on a small, luxury passenger ship crossing the
Atlantic from England to the U.S. I became friendly with the captain
and was invited to the wheelhouse. This, I'm sure couldn't happen
today due to our Islamic friends and 9-11 and their jihad, but it
happened then and when I was there observing the deck officer plotting
the position of rather heavy traffic as we were crossing the Grand
Banks I noted that he seemed to ignore all the small blips.

When I inquired about this his response was: "They're just small
fishing boats. They'll get out of our way." I wonder how prevalent
this attitude is. Hell, if it hadn't been a passenger ship I was on I
doubt anyone would even be looking at the radar let alone worrying
about the small blip even the best reflector could provide. Food for
thought??

Joe



nospam February 3rd 04 04:40 AM

Inflatable radar reflector
 
The guy who wrote telling you to keep your eyes open and to forget all
about radar and radar reflectors might have had a point. I'll tell
you why.

Some years back I was on a small, luxury passenger ship crossing the
Atlantic from England to the U.S. I became friendly with the captain
and was invited to the wheelhouse. This, I'm sure couldn't happen
today due to our Islamic friends and 9-11 and their jihad, but it
happened then and when I was there observing the deck officer plotting
the position of rather heavy traffic as we were crossing the Grand
Banks I noted that he seemed to ignore all the small blips.

When I inquired about this his response was: "They're just small
fishing boats. They'll get out of our way." I wonder how prevalent
this attitude is. Hell, if it hadn't been a passenger ship I was on I
doubt anyone would even be looking at the radar let alone worrying
about the small blip even the best reflector could provide. Food for
thought??

Joe




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